69/70 Road Runner
 

Hey guys, I know this is a bit off topic for this board, but I posted on several plymouth boards without any luck. Since I've never been able to stump anyone on this site, I figured I could at least get pointed in the right direction. Anyway - I drive about 4 hrs round trip for work about 4-5 times a month. This trip takes me through several small towns. There is a 69/70 Road Runner for sale that has been there for about 6 months (outside, of course). The price has been steadily lowered and is now at $500. It looks pretty complete, but would need a complete resto. It is sitting in primer, so who knows what is underneath. Before I stop and look at it, I would like to know what to look for. I know almost nothing about mopars and wouldn't have a clue where to start. Do they have cowl tags, engine stamp, etc.? If it would be worth it, all I would do is buy the car and sell it to save it and maybe make a few bucks. Can anyone here help me out or at least point me to a board or something where I can get some info? I'll take some pics next time I go down.
Thanks to anyone who can help.

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Here's a link to Year One's Vin decode below. . I guess the first thing is if it has a Dana rear, buy it no matter what condition the body is! . The motors are stamped on the pad by the distrib. . The fender tags are often missing on Mopars as they're held on by screws and easily removable for safekeeping so if it's missing don't forget to ask if they have it....or any other loose parts. . Have fun! ~ Pete

http://www.yearone.com/updatedsingle...rvininfo3.html

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Get the Vin# of the car located on the dash in front of the drivers seat. That will tell enough of the story! The first 7 digits will tell you the model, engine it left the factory with, the year built and where.

Patrick

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at $500.00 no matter the condition buy it.

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dm, if its a runner the first 2 letters are RM in the vin. to confirm the VIN, pop the hood and look at the radiator support bracket. on the top backside of the support the VIN will show. also, if the fender tags (drivers side fender) are still on the car the VIN appears there too. that would be 3 confirmations of the VIN which would in all likelyhood mean the car is an authentic RR. either way as gemleeus said its worth $500 no matter what.

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The motors are stamped on the pad by the distrib.

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This is only true w/ the RB motors i.e. 413, 426 wedge, 426 Hemi and 440. The 383 and 400 being low deck motors don't have the pad by the distributor.
And YES! if it does have a Dana under it - BUY IT!

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to confirm the VIN, pop the hood and look at the radiator support bracket. on the top backside of the support the VIN will show.

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Not always true on the rad support. Most of the time it is just a partial there, like the last 8. For a possible full vin you have to look in the trunk weatherstrip rail on the drivers side, about 3/4 the way up to the window.

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R - Belvedere line
M - Medium price class i.e. Road Runner
21 - 2dr sedan (w/ post between door & quarter window) OR 23 - 2dr hardtop
H - 383 in '68 & '69 OR N in '70 OR M - 440-6bbl in '69 OR V in '70 OR J - Hemi in '68 & '69 OR R in '70
8 - 1968 or 9 - 1969 or 0 - 1970
next is built plant
last 6 are sequential build numbers

Here's how my 440-6bbl looks
RM21M9A27****

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try www.moparts.com as well

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If you like take a digital camera with you next time and take pix of as many of above numbers as possible. don't forget to foto the rear axle. Post em here or send them to me and I'll post them for you. Then we'll get you squared away. Good luck! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

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As expected, thanks for the great advice guys! It looks like I will have to head back there around the mid to end of next week. I'll be sure and grab pics and try to post them. I guess if it has the dana rear, I'll just give the guy the money right there.

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. Most of the time it is just a partial there, like the last 8.

the last 8 would be the most important anyways.

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Ok guys, I went down today and snapped some pics and got what I could. I think I know why it is only $500.... A nasty German Shepard that can get to you while you are at the car! A trip to the local store and 2 lbs of hamburger later, I was able to keep him at bay long enough to get some pictures. With all the comotion about the dog, I forgot to check the vin on the radiator support and look for the tag on the drivers inner fender. If you guys think it is worth setting up a time to look at, I'll get all that stuff next time. I did get the vin and the part of the engine stamp that I could see. VIN is rm23n06Gxxxxx. The engine pad was partially blocked by the alt. bracket and the distributor. I could make out D383 on one line and a "6" on a line below it. If you zoom in on the pics you can see it. The car lists 383/auto on the front. The interior is pretty complete minus a radio, but all of it is in fairly rough shape. The car is in primer, so I have no idea how much bondo is underneath, but I could see that the drivers side floor would need fixing. Anyway, what do you guys think this is worth?
Thanks again.

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I'll be the first to admit i don't know much about mopars, but i do know that car is worth 500.00 any day of the week...The parts alone are worth it, and to be honest, the car looks very savable if its truly a roadrunner. Hood looks like a roadrunner piece, but I'm sure the mopar guru's will be able to tell you for sure what it is... heck, the magnum 500 wheels are probably worth close to the asking price! Its got a complete driveline too... pay the man, bring some treats for the dog, and get that car home!

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Wow! I love Road Runners. I'd have it home already. Good luck. I'll be glad to take it off your hands if you don't want it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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$500 ALL DAY LONG !! Snag it.

RM23NOGXXXXXX is a '70 Plymouth Road Runner hardtop, 383, built in St. Louis. I believe that the "6" in your VIN description is a typo.

B-body 8 3/4 rear axle is worth it alone -- especially if it is a 3.55 or 3.91.

Hood -- even though it's a non-Air Grabber, those still will fetch $350 +.

If the pad says *D383*, it is a '68 non-HP 383. No big deal. The only thing that was different between HP and non-HP was the camshaft and the valve springs. Same *906* heads. Those cores go for around $200. The motor will have a steel crank in it too. Also an easy $200 bill. Just a cursory inventory will get you $2000 worth of parts on it. Well worth the initial investment IMO. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Just saw the manual steering box. That's a $100 core - no problem.

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Thanks guys. Casey, yes it was a typo on my part. Vin is rm23n0gxxxxxx. It looks like I'll give the guy a call and pick it up. I'll probably just throw it on ebay and see if I can make some money to help out with my honeymoon the end of March! There is another lime green mopar behind those trees. I'll have to ask about it when I go down.