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ANDY M 01-08-2006 06:17 AM

Camaro reveal news
 
-----Original Message-----
From: scott settlemire
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Please tune in for the unveiling...........

My fellow Camaro and Firebird Friends........

I can't tell you how happy it makes me to announce the following:

Please tune in Monday, January 9, at 10:30 a.m. EST to join us in the LIVE reveal of the Chevrolet concept car at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit. You will NOT want to miss this! You can view the live reveal on the Web in one of the following ways:

GMtv: http://gmtv.feedroom.com/?fr_story=FEEDROOM128215
The video will appear in the full GMtv web site. If you miss the live reveal, the archived footage will be available at the same web site by about 1 p.m. EST. You will see the archived version on the right-hand side under features.

Alternate:
Starter:
http://starter.feedroom.com?fr_story...fa03990772162d

A window will pop up when you click and play the news conference. This provides a basic small window that is simple to use. If you miss the live reveal, the archived footage will be available at the same web site by about 1 p.m.

Thanks for joining us for this exciting event.

Scott wants you to tune in Monday! This will be the real deal. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

njsteve 01-08-2006 07:13 AM

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To put it bluntly: If it is the car on the C&D internet link, then I'll be spending my time writing out my deposit check for a 2009 Challenger. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

70 ls6 convert 01-08-2006 09:00 PM

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If its not due out untell 2009 they still have time to fix it.My wife noticed the rear qourter window area, it looks good, but the rest of it needs work,its to bad they took this design so far they should of had about ten rough drafts and posted them on this site for us to help them decide.. Then took the best one. Who ever re-did the challenger deserves a super big pay raise..

L34Pace 01-09-2006 06:45 PM

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I hope the car runs better than the link. Thanks for the invitation though.

Mr70 01-09-2006 07:30 PM

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I think Charleys there now?
I would imagine he will share more info & pics ASAP.

BARN FIND 01-09-2006 08:26 PM

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I hope Charleys has some actual pics instead of the POS renderings that are on the GM website.

musclecarjohn 01-09-2006 09:42 PM

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To put it bluntly: If it is the car on the C&D internet link, then I'll be spending my time writing out my deposit check for a 2009 Challenger. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

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X100!

The front end of that concept is totally wrong...back to the drawing board GM! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

Charley Lillard 01-09-2006 10:02 PM

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pics I took this morning http://www.camcojb.com/detroit1.jpg

Charley Lillard 01-09-2006 10:03 PM

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http://www.camcojb.com/detroit2.jpg

Charley Lillard 01-09-2006 10:04 PM

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http://www.camcojb.com/detroit3.jpg

Charley Lillard 01-09-2006 10:05 PM

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http://www.camcojb.com/detroit4.jpg

Salvatore 01-09-2006 10:21 PM

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Thanks Charlie! I guess it will have to grow on me. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

TXSS 01-09-2006 11:21 PM

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Disappointing. I would preferr it to look more like the new Motion Camaro and less like a Chrysler 300. I do not like the bulbous look that many automakers are going to.

Seeing all the automakers trying to recapture the designs of the 60's & 70's is a real tesimate to just how beautiful and timeless those designs really were. Nothing produced in those numbers these days even comes close.

Stuart Adams 01-09-2006 11:23 PM

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Thanks Charley. I like it. Just change the nose. Love how the tires/wheels fit in there.

sYc 01-09-2006 11:24 PM

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Charley, what was the reaction from the folks there?

NEW 01-09-2006 11:32 PM

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I like it, only thing i agree with Stuart if they¨d change the nose a bit. In no way this is the "mold" for production, so they will change it, and the only time anyone of you will look at a challenger, or mustang is in your rearview mirror..

I am keeping my faith up, and will GM the benefit of the doubt, this camaro if it is given some changes and makes it to production, will rule.

NEW

NEW 01-09-2006 11:36 PM

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Like this picture, slightly modded car, the fog lamps installed deeper, shaved door handles.., RS grille

I like it..

NEW

ORIGLS6 01-09-2006 11:39 PM

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Needs work. Still looks like a Caddy. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

Stuart Adams 01-09-2006 11:43 PM

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Way better than the last camaro version.

Charley, any engine choices ,etc. revealed.

Mr. T 01-10-2006 12:01 AM

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Like this picture, slightly modded car, the fog lamps installed deeper, shaved door handles.., RS grille

I like it..

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An SS/RS? Now that is what I am talking about! I would definately stand in line for a RPO optioned Camaro like that. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Steve Shauger 01-10-2006 12:29 AM

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It is growing on me , but not what I was looking for.

JTH74 01-10-2006 12:38 AM

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It sucks, Chevrolet builds another LOSER! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

jg95z28 01-10-2006 12:38 AM

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Like this picture, slightly modded car, the fog lamps installed deeper, shaved door handles.., RS grille

I like it..

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I don't like the RS version. It makes it look too retro. It really isn't as retro as people think it is. If it makes production I'm buying one.

Jeff H 01-10-2006 02:15 AM

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I like it. It needs a little softening of the front end but otherwise it's ok. It does look like a Cadillac or Chrysler a little with the shape. But I don't know why people want a retro look so bad. If you want a 69 Camaro, buy a 69 Camaro. The Challenger concept looks cool, but it's the same as a 70 Challenger so why bother? I'm just glad they're bringing it back and it's still a 2 door rear wheel drive.

af1fe 01-10-2006 05:43 AM

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Jeff,
Exactly what I was thinking. They showed it on the NBC news tonight at the Detriot Auto Show. I'm wondering where GM is planning to build it?

Donutblue 01-10-2006 06:05 AM

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In my opinion a touch of every generation was put into this proto-type to satisfy all Camaro fans.

JQ 01-10-2006 06:48 AM

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It could be massaged in a few places but I don't think it's all "that" bad. I'll judge the finished product.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Seattle Sam 01-10-2006 07:10 AM

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For release: Jan. 9, 2006, after press conference


CHEVROLET CAMARO CONCEPT:
CAPTURING THE TIMELESS SPIRIT OF CAMARO

- Thoroughly modern interpretation of the classic sport coupe
- Dramatic design, responsive performance

DETROIT – Combining dramatic design and exciting performance, the Chevrolet Camaro Concept recaptures the spirit of one of the most popular sport coupes of all time and redefines the Camaro for new generations of fans.

The Camaro Concept embodies the performance and passion that have made first-generation Camaros some of the most sought-after collector cars, updating the formula with a fuel-efficient powertrain, sophisticated chassis and contemporary design execution. The goal is to make the sport coupe relevant to younger enthusiasts while retaining its appeal to its current fans.

“Millions of people of all ages fell in love with the Camaro for all of the right reasons,” said Ed Welburn, GM vice president, global design. “Camaros were beautiful to look at and offered performance that could rival expensive European GTs. Yet they were practical enough to drive every day and priced within the reach of many new car buyers.”

Though only a show car at this point, the Camaro Concept is intended to explore customer reaction to design and engineering elements that might lead to an all-new version of the Camaro.

The long hood, short deck and wide stance of the Camaro Concept leave no doubt that it is a serious performance car. Those looks are backed up by a 400-horsepower aluminum small-bock V-8, a six-speed manual transmission, and a sophisticated chassis with four-wheel independent suspension.

Like its forebears, the Camaro Concept would be practical enough for everyday use. It features fuel-saving features like Active Fuel Management™ cylinder deactivation technology, yielding highway fuel economy of 30 mpg or better. Its overall size is a comfortable fit for city streets and suburban parking lots, and its back seat provides occasional seating for two adults.

Lean, muscular design

Because of Camaro’s powerful heritage, the GM Design team chose a theme that pays homage to the original Camaro, while being instantly recognizable as an all-new car.

Said Bob Boniface, director of the Warren Advanced Design Studio, “The fact that the Camaro has been out of production for a number of years made it particularly important that the Camaro Concept honors the Camaro heritage in the right way.”

The 1969 Camaro, considered by many to be the best first-generation design, was a significant inspiration. But as GM design teams in Warren, Mich., worked on alternatives for the Camaro Concept, they also turned to the latest Corvette and to aircraft like the YF-22, seeking a design that encompasses the spirit that made the 1969 Camaro great, but interprets that spirit in a fresh, exciting way.

“The overall proportions, long hood and powerful fender forms say, ‘This is a front-engine, rear-wheel drive performance vehicle,’ ” said Tom Peters, design director, rear-wheel drive performance cars. The prominent front grille and hood bulge hint at the power of the Corvette-derived V-8 engine. Large wheels and tires, exposed high-performance brakes and prominent fender shapes signal that the Camaro Concept has the handling and braking to go with the powertrain.

The cockpit of the Camaro nestles between sharply defined fender forms, a design element inspired by fighter planes and the new Corvette. And like any high-performance vehicle, the clean, purposeful design is integral to the aesthetic. “The Camaro Concept isn’t just a styled shape,” said Peters. “The design incorporates what the vehicle needs to perform to its optimum level.”

The same purposeful design is reflected in the interior of the Camaro Concept. The gauges and splash of orange trim hint at classic first-generation Camaros, but the overall design and execution reflect the no-nonsense functionality that drivers expect from a high-performance Chevrolet sports car.

Performance for the real world
The Camaro Concept features the latest generation of GM’s legendary small-block V-8. The 6.0-liter LS2 engine features an aluminum block and heads for light weight, and Active Fuel Management™, which shuts off four cylinders to save fuel when the engine is lightly loaded. This concept version of the LS2 is rated at 400 horsepower, yet it could also deliver more than 30 mpg at highway speeds.

The Camaro Concept’s six-speed manual transmission provides a wide spread of ratios for aggressive acceleration off the line, confident passing and merging and efficient highway cruising.

Modern sports cars are about more than just straight-line speed, so the Camaro Concept features a sophisticated rear-wheel drive chassis. Its independent front and rear suspension features progressive-rate springs and gas-pressurized dampers. Four-wheel vented disc brakes with 14-inch rotors provide confident stopping under all conditions.

Enhancing both the performance and appearance of the Camaro Concept are unique five-spoke cast alloy wheels, 21 inches in the front and 22 inches in the rear.

An American icon
Designed in the mid-1960s, the first-generation Camaro captured the optimism of an era. The Baby Boomers were in their teens, rock-and-roll and Motown ruled the airwaves, and American culture was sweeping the globe.

Like the Impala, Chevelle and Sting Ray, the new Camaro showcased Chevy’s strength of bringing stylish, high-quality cars to a mainstream audience. Its dramatic proportions and graceful lines recalled both the Corvette and the Italian Gran Turismo cars of the era. And its powertrain lineup, which soon included both the potent Z-28 small block and big block 396s and 427s, gave the Camaro the performance to go with its looks.

But what really made the Camaro an American icon was that it was accessible to millions. Chevy sold more than 699,000 Camaros in its first three years. So for every Z-28 taking the checkered flag at the track, there were thousands of less exotic Camaros cruising the drive-ins, picking up the groceries, or taking the family on vacation.

“The Camaro Concept is designed to have that same broad appeal, with unmistakable style, spirit and performance,” said Welburn.

# # #


Contact:
Tom Wilkinson
Design Communications
Phone: 586-986-5143
E-mail: [email protected]


SPECIFICATIONS – CHEVROLET CAMARO CONCEPT
Vehicle type: two-door, four-passenger rear-wheel drive sport coupe
Wheelbase (in / mm): 110.5 / 2806
Length (in / mm): 186.2 / 4730
Width (in / mm): 79.6 / 2022
Height (in / mm): 53 / 1344
Track (in / mm): 63.8 / 1620 front; 63.3 / 1607 rear
Engine: 6.0-L V-8 LS-2, 400 hp / 298 kw, with Active Fuel Management™
Transmission: six-speed manual T56
Suspension: four-wheel independent: MacPherson strut front, multilink rear, progressive rate coil springs, gas-pressurized dampers
Brakes: four-wheel disc, 15” rotors with four-piston calipers
Wheels: cast aluminum, 21” front, 22” rear
Tires: 275/30R21 front, 305/30R22 rear

Seattle Sam 01-10-2006 07:12 AM

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Here are a few more pics..driving up, in sight for the first time -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4651.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4654.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4655.jpg

Seattle Sam 01-10-2006 07:14 AM

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4657.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4659.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4661.jpg

Seattle Sam 01-10-2006 07:17 AM

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4663.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4664.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4669.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/DSCN4666.jpg

MosportGreen66 01-10-2006 07:21 AM

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I like it...

GM does not like retro... why would we expect a retro Camaro? This is cool for 2009 Camaro. Better than nothing.

Seattle Sam 01-10-2006 07:24 AM

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Dan,

Happy Birthday - I hope you like the new Camaro, born on your day!!

In person (IMHO) It's a good looking, muscular car with "attitude". Our goal now is to contact GM and Chevrolet and tell them we want one built for production.
-Sam

Seattle Sam 01-10-2006 07:31 AM

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By the way, the Camaro is the big auto show news around here, with TV news coverage mentioning Camaro Saturday night, Sunday night, and tonight the Camaro led all the new releases from the show.
The unveil was attended by all kinds of GM brass, including the head of Chevrolet, the head of GM, Bob Lutz, and lots of other dignitaries including Roger Penske and Jim Perkins.

The GM Heritage Museum event Sunday evening was awesome as well..
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif -Sam

Les Quam 01-10-2006 07:45 AM

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I don't dislike it but it doesn't generate in me that "I gotta have one" feeling like the Challenger or Shelby GT 500 does. I look at the Challenger concept or New 2007 Shelby and immediately get an emotional reaction that I have to have one. This concept has me looking for things to like. I am trying to like it but it doesn't generate much excitement. It would have to come with tremendous performance for me to buy one. Kind of vanilla generic styling like the new Corvette. Very GM like in styling IMHO.

Tenney 01-10-2006 08:17 AM

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Roof line's nice. Cowl induction? Curves of the profile are pretty cool, too. Though the edges and angles of the nose/tail seem inconsistent - from a different project, maybe? Z06 drivetrain'd go a ways toward curing what ails the aesthetic, for me. That said, the Challenger's all of a piece. Same the GT500.

Zedder 01-10-2006 08:35 AM

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I really don't care for the large wheel lips or whatever you would call them. They look as out of place on the Camaro as they do on the base C6. At least they got it right on the Z06...if you compare the Z06 wheel lips with the base C6, it looks like the Z06 is how the car was supposed to look and the C6 looks chunky and out of place.

JoeG 01-10-2006 09:21 AM

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At least they got away from the "GENERIC" styling---It's got Caddy dna, but it is a workable platform--If they can smooth the angular lines out a bit and maybe go down a shoesize or two in the tires,I think maybe you might just find a https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif first run of Camaros --I just hope they follow thru with production ---------It's a first step towards the light......

Born30YrsLate 01-10-2006 04:08 PM

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I think it needs a more pronounced hood scoop...the cowl hood lines get lost in all the other lines on the car...I would like to see the stingray style hood on the car...can anyone photoshop that?...similar to what was mentioned before, if I saw this car in my review mirror I would think it was a caddy...it needs to look more aggressive from the front and a more noticeable hood scoop would help - I think...

DarrenX33 01-10-2006 04:15 PM

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But I don't know why people want a retro look so bad.

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Hey Jeff, ever wonder why they are still selling Mustangs and the Camaro and Firebird are on vacation?


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