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Anyone here a member of the Dick Harrell website? What's up with the discussion about the Dick Harrell funnycar? Interesting reading.
James

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So what¨s up?, what is correct and not?


NEW

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That was some very interesting reading. The responses should be even better. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

Rick H.

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The recent debate about my funny car is quite interesting and confirms several of the theories, and dispels a few others, that I had about the number, and make up, of Dick's 1968 funnycars, including mine. In the past, my car has been discussed on various sites, including on here and the Harrell site, where the majority of the folks who are now involved in the debate gave it their blessings as being legit. Some of them have been pictured with the car, given interviews to print media about it, and most made posts on here and other sites about how "neat" the car was.

These types of discrediting posts are not uncommon on the Harrell and other sites, just ask Kim Howie, Helen Gibb, Mike Guarise, Ed Cunneen, Ken Boje, the Yenko family, and others. Why some sites would rather focus on the negatives rather then the positives is beyond me, and out of my control. The one thing I can control is how I handle this situation, which means I am simply going to follow the lead of these other fine folks, who choose to let things run their course without interference. The one thing I have learned, rarely do these types of threads ever benefit our hobby. More times then not, it only serves to draw people a part, not together.



I have had a ton of fun with the car, with lots of great memorable moments, and look forward to many more. Of course, none can compare with the shot of BBenny being blown off the wall at the SCR. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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Very Sad!!!!

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So is your car the real deal or not. Ed

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Tom,

I actually just joined that website today to view the photos they posted, so I'm certainly not a "member" or in the "good old boys club" of either there or here for that matter. While I think there are some very juvenille people on the Harrell site (especially as evidence by one person's stupid name calling post..with little to nothing to add, except when he post..we all get to look at a very nice Corvette Bronze 1968 Camaro) I must admit though after looking at the photos they posted, there seems to me to be quite a bit of differences to the pics "USA1" posted and your car. I'm not trying to start anything, but like someone posted this website and its' posters have sometimes gone out of its'/their way to document legit cars and to expose (for lack of a better term) clones or recreations. As someone that appreciates when a truly legit car is found, I would be interested as many I'm sure would be what documentation (paperwork) you have saying the car you have is a/the DH car? I know in the past I was asked to provide docs on the various cars I've owned, especially as I posted replies from an "experts" position..meaning when someone asked a question and I answered and was perceived as an "expert" (I'm certainly not one however..) people wanted to know what docs I had to back up my post..I always sent them if requested...

Please keep in mind I'm not trying to discredit you or the car, but as a student of history, and being versed in research methods I appreciate "detective work"..it seems at least one guy on that site has done a lot of work and based soley on his pics presented IMHO raised some serious questions...

Being from Missouri..I'm sure you know the motto...

What documentation do you have that the FC you have is a/the 1968 DH car?

I know my post might seem out of line to some, but I feel necessary as in this market full disclosure is needed, especially with such a historical car.

For what it is worth..I hope your car turns out to be the DH car, as it is extremely cool, but if not it is still a very cool old drag car...one I'd love to have in my garage any day of the week..

Respectfully,

G S Carlson

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Lets turn back the clock to a post that was made here on the sYc site in the Kirby Funny Car Thread.

This qoute is talking about the Kirby car when it was on Ebay;

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THE WHOLE AD. It says, ìOriginal Dick Harrell #3 car.î Under Vehicle condition it says ìAn all original DICK HARRELL 68 Funny Carî. It is not, was not and would never be a DH original car. It also says "own a piece of history"; racing history comes from wins and famous owners. The DH name is a good piece of Jim Kirby history. What major event did this car ever win? It was painted Harrell colors so he could fill in for Dick. The name Jim Kirby was not one everyone went to pay and see.

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<font color="blue">Notice this wording in the above quote:
It is not, was not and would never be a DH original car. </font>


And this quote by the same person about Tom Clary's 68 Harrell Funny Car.

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Tom has been a true gentleman to the Harrell family, unlike others. GO FIGURE! This also brings up another issue. Tomís car indeed is a REAL Dick Harrell car and the other does detract from the value of there being more than just a few originals

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Then at SCR7 While at the Track Dave Libby telling me that Toms Car sat higher than it did WHEN THEY RACED IT

And Glenn standing in amazement while looking at the car at SCR8 saying it was good to see an old friend again since He had not seen the 68 or Lil Hoss in YEARS/


Oh the first two quotes were from Dale Pulde's Kirby Funny Car post in case people would like to know.

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I don't know anything about Toms car...but I do know that if those people told me the sun was shining..I would have to go outside and look. Glad I don't own a Harrell car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Guess thats what you get for letting the experts verify your car Tom. Dale P, Val H, and Dave L. all went on and on about the car and how great it was to see it again, and how good a job you did in restoring the car back like it was it the good old days. I doubt very seriously that the drugs they were/are doing promote long term memory.

I would look at the pics they have posted to see if any are different than the one's used in restoring the car but I can't they have me banned. Guess I am the lucky one.

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I doubt very seriously that the drugs they were/are doing promote long term memory.


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moparts, what new information did you provide by making a post like that? That is the type of slander that everyone here has wanted to avoid and now you come on here and post that type of statement. Whether it was joking or not it shouldn't have been said.................

Now I have not seen anything from anyone on this site to negate the claims against Tom's car. USA1 Funnycar has made a strong case against Tom's car and I have yet to see any evidence to disprove this guy other than some statements made 2 years ago by Dale &amp; Dave over a car that was presented to them as the DH funnycar from 1968. Are they not allowed to make a mistake and then change their minds? I would hope they are. Hell I have made mistakes in the past and was allowed to correct myself. Even Tom's reply above talks about how Mike and Kim have been bashed by people on other sites, I even bashed Kim on his paint because it was the wrong color. (see picture attached for the true color of red that I took in 1970) I have been bashed about stuff that I have said or done but I don't care. If I am wrong, then I am wrong and I will admit it.

I received an email from Dale a while ago and I asked him if I could post it here for everyone to read. This was sent to me long before the topic showed up on their website on Christmas Day.
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Troy. When Tom 1st came forward with this car. he claimed to have pictures and documents. We along with others took his word for it. believing in Tom and his so called loyalty. We backed him. Later Val and I were at the FCR2 when we saw the car. Being nice and being glad to see it we accepted it and didnt even look for the obvious. Dave Libby who was having health problems made it to the race, Dave had mentioned the car was repaired in the front corner.
Mo went over looked at the car and said it was repaired. At that time it showed they may have had doubt. Truth be known We ALL ran into things and repaired the fronts of our cars.
What Dave failed to say is the car had a clip put on it. Not just a repair on a corner. Val has Nevr gotten anything from Tom to verify the car, Therefore there was never a valid License agreement. yet this is the man who tells everyone that val wants all this money to use the name. i think she has been more than fair to a man who is trying to help bury her. There is more to note on this car but I am in a situation that includes Mr Clary.I cant tell you how many people have asked about this car and said what a poor job of portrail it is of Dick.

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I too want to see pictures of Tom's car before any restoration work was done as I personally feel it is not the Dick Harrell car from what I have observed. I do feel however he DOES have a significant piece of southern drag racing history and if it turns out to be that car then it needs to be restored that way.

Moparts, if you cannot see the pictures I will be glad to email them to you as I have saved all of them from their site.................RatPack.....................

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Troy, love the pic of my car can you tell if Freds name is on the back??

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Kim, yes that is what it says as the Gibb lettering is visible in the original. I thought you might like that picture. I found it along with about 30 others that I had thought were lost when my wife and I got married in 1991 as that was the last time I saw them. Also I have a picture of the funnycar and it says Dick Harrell on the 1/4 panel with Fred Gibb on the door in the crest...............RatPack...............

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<font color="re(see picture attached for the true color of red that I took in 1970)d"> </font>

Troy, That picture wasn't taken by you in 1970. Fred didn't buy the car until Aug. 23rd 1971. Enclosed copy of the title. Kim

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After looking at these two pictures you can tell the cars are not the same. Like I said before show me pictures of the car before the resto. The question is easy Tom is your car real or a clone,a simple yes or no will do. Ed
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http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d46/RPOZ28/DHFC6.jpg

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Guys here is the bottom line. The rabbits and Harrels don't like Tom Clary or ANYONE that is associated with this site. To educate the new guys why, it is because Tom and the Moderators rid this site of all the riff raff negative losers that used to plague us with all their greed, lies, treachery, and deceit. Now they stop at nothing and spend their days plotting trying to find something that they can use against us. They are also the biggest closet readers of this site lurking under the mask of anomity. To prove that they hate ANYONE associated with this site I recently logged on that no good Harrell site after months of not reading only to find out that I had been banned. Not for any reason other than being associated with this site. I had dozens of very pleasant Internet conversations with Val Harrell and respect her for what she tried to do for her fathers memory until her unstable boyfriend threw a monkey wrench into the works and DISGRACED the Harrell name. Funny when Tom supported the Harrells they couldn't get enough of his car and thought it was the coolest. They roll over anybody that dosen't play ball with them.

My advice to Tom and the Moderators is stop screwing around and ban the last couple rabbits that escaped the hole to disrupt this site. It is obvious who they are.

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Hey Frank stick to the topic,is Toms car real or not. If you want to ban me thats find,I'm like a rebodied Deuce I keep coming back https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif.Ed

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Hey Ed...you yourself are clueless and have no dog in the fight so why are you so concerned ? Are those your marching orders ? I will give you your wish after you reply.

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One down.......a couple more to go.....

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TALLY-HO!!---

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I just read the stuff being said over at the Harrell site and I must say I am amazed at how nasty everyone is becoming.

Can't we all just get along...? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Thats pretty much what they do.

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Read some of the crap on the Harrell site...just juvenile and pathetic.

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This is getting pretty nasty but why would Tom Clary sue for the rights to the Dick Harrell name? Tom Can you answer that? I have no interest either way but should it not stay within the family out of respect? Sean

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Sean, I see your propoganda mailer from DH.com has arrived in the mail...too bad the info is wrong. "Tom Clary" is sueing NO ONE...it's Valerie that is sueing her cousin, who still owns/operates the Dick Harrell store in New Mexico that Dick helped his family start back in 1971...look it up, it's public info...and while you're at it, look up on the US/PTO website how Val is going after *ALL* rights to the Gibb trademark as well... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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That's pathetic . Must be a lot of money in t-shirts and key chains huh ? Yeah lets se...I trust them. It's sunny and 60 in Chicago right now...

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Rob, First off politicians use propaganda and smoke and mirrors! I could care less either way I just asked a simple question of the lawsuit and I will look it up. And no one has contacted me. BTW we gonna run your ol hot rod title for title against the ol Vitar car? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Sean https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I have no clue as to the differences in the two pics above and I really don't care. We know this is a personal thing against Tom. Tom has believed that there were two 68's and that the one you are comparing is not his car. He relied on the seller and others that it was a Harrell car. To further convince him was when Libby told him about damage to the car that he did not know about. If someone has now evidence that it is another car then please tell us. Most of the bashing is coming from people that have been banned from this site for good reason. There is more than one way to approach a subject and the folks from Harrell and Rabbit choose to take the bashing route. Wouldn't make any sense to send Clary pics of the car they think it is and spell it all out. My understanding on the lawsuit was the Halls filed it after Val tried to trademark the Dick Harrell name in New Mexico. The Hall family is related and has been operating a Dick Harrell Performance center in New Mexico since the early 70's. Why would Val want to trademark the name in New Mexico ? Should the Hall family be denied use of the name because now Val wants to control the name ? Why has Val filed papers to trademark the Fred Gibb name ? Dick Harrell was a great name but that name now includes all that goes on on that web site. Me and many others no longer have any interest in Harrell cars because of all the baggage that now comes with one. Show Tom what car it was and if he was wrong I'm sure he will letter it up that way.

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You know what, I was going to stay out of this but it's just not my nature.

NASTY?? Did somebody say it was getting nasty over there?? What about over here??

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Read some of the crap on the Harrell site...just juvenile and pathetic.

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Isn't it not the same crap here? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Somebody but this hypocrisy to rest and hurry!

Rick H.

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You got to stand for something or you are going to fall for anything Rick...now go stamp some date codes on repop shocks !! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif J/K

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You got to stand for something or you are going to fall for anything Rick...now go stamp some date codes on repop shocks !! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif J/K

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Rick give me a break, you actually equate what has been said on this site with what has been stated on the DH site. If you don't like my statement so be it...move on.

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Oh man Bob, you almost made me laugh. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Rick H.

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Kim, you are correct about the date, but I did take that picture. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif Fred bought the car on Monday the 23rd and it was at Bristol by the end of the week with the Stott Chevrolet lettering removed and Fred's name on the quarter panel. This was the last race at Bristol that Dick was at. This was the All-American Nationals that was held on the last weekend of August and it was the very first IHRA race at Bristol. That is why the car shows the S/S on the windshield as IHRA called their "Pro Stock" class Super Stock for the 71 season and then in 72 it became Pro Stock. I have a video made from an old that shows Dick working on the car in the pits during that race so it is two weeks before he was killed...................RatPack.................. ...

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No Steve, I think everyone should give everyone else a break. The basis of the content is no different then another bashing episode that has occured on this site, DH site, Rabbit site, etc. Pick a site, it's all the same.


And as for your statement, I liked it because I thought it was fitting for both sites. Period.

Rick H.

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I see quite a few questions but no answers. At this point the evidence seems pretty strong showing many significant differences between the cars. I would like to hear from the source before forming any concrete opinions. Maybe we should all make a New Year's resolution to get along with one and other.


Jason

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Rick H, we have been dealing with these knuckleheads for years now. Instead of your Johnny Come Lately, lets all get along approach, please do not suggest that Tom Clary lay down and play dead with these goofballs. Untill you have been a target of their bashing (I personally have) then it is better to just read and not comment.

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Rick H, we have been dealing with these knuckleheads for years now. Instead of your Johnny Come Lately, lets all get along approach, please do not suggest that Tom Clary lay down and play dead with these goofballs. Untill you have been a target of their bashing (I personally have) then it is better to just read and not comment.

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Frank, no disrepect but you or no one else will tell me what to do. I hope that is very clear!

OK Frank let me take your approach, you can take your "Johnny Come Lately" and shove it! Is that better?

Rick H.

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If you guys keep this up you are going to be asked to join the Harrell site...

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Frank, no disrepect but you or no one else will tell me what to do. I hope that is very clear!

OK Frank let me take your approach, you can take your "Johnny Come Lately" and shove it! Is that better?

Rick H.


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SIR YES SIR!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

LOL! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif