Ebay.... Real Z-16 ??
 

Is it or isn't it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet...1QQcmdZViewItem

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That's very heartbreaking to see but hopefully it will be saved. I'd say more than likely the real thing but wish there were a few more photos.

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I think one of the Z 16 guys ..Terry lives out that way...

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I live less than 5 miles from the seller. I sent a message asking to see the car in person.

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I'm no expert,but it sure seems like it meets the criteria for a real Z-16.
Be nice to see the cowl tag too for the 4FM code.
Even the VIN# is in the correct time frame.
That looks like D&P Classic Chevy in Huntington Beach.

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I found a real one the other day. Its missing the original engine but it is the real mccoy!

Brian

Brian

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif You threw the bait in so lets see some pics of that bad boy. One of my all time favs.

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It took me 2 hours of talking before the guy would admit to owning the car, then he did not want to show it to me. So there are no pictures. And no I won't tell anyone where it is. I made a promise to the owner not to throw him to the wolves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brian

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Brian, think of it as part of your "retirement fund". https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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All Z-16,s susposedly had remote mirrors,tilt and wood wheels also.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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I thought all Z16s were manuals?

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If you look closely you can see the clutch pedal is still there. Not all Z-16's had wood wheels.

Brian

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That's not the authentic console,so don't be mislead.
It's obviously been molested,but who knows.
MORE HERE

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I thought that was the parking brake pedal.
Thanks for the clarification Rick!

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The steering wheel in the car isn't original anyhow, its a 69-72 Chevy pickup wheel. The trim in the trunk looks legit, as does the speedo... If its not real it got some real stuff thrown in that would be very hard to find otherwise... I'm betting its legit... but will wait to see if he actually posts trim tag info.

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All Z-16,s susposedly had remote mirrors,tilt and wood wheels also.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gifWHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THAT INFO? I USED TO OWN ON AND THATS NOT TRUE.

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They all had the 4F code for Z13 Comfort and Convenience package (Type B) which included Outside Remote Mirror, Inside Non-Glare Mirror, 2 speed electric windshield wipers and washers.
and the M for the Z16 Package.

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Well, he has more pictures available on there now. Looks to be the real thing. He must have taken the pictures according to the questions that people asked. With about 3,000 views I'll bet he got a lot of e-mail, probably gonna get a whole lot more. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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Hello, the car is the real deal. It used to be in Tucson, AZ. Its a rust bucket though. Its on the registry. Larry.

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Anyone have an educated guess on a restored Z-16 go for today? NADA sais 125K, that seems low.

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Stuart,

Your maxed out on PM, clear your box out https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

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Will do, thanks.

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New cowl tag rivets, or just the pic?

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I read that somewhere https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif i guess iam mistaken... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif

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Sorry for the strong reply Scott! I probably had to much to drink that night https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif I used to own one of those cars back in the 80's and learned alot about them. My car had something else that i never hear anybody say but it had a provision under the dash molded in the metal part for a mechanical choke https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif It also had pwr windows,steering,brakes,tilt wood wheel and the multiplex! Red/black top. Still know where it is. Happy holidays to you and your family.

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Hello, the car is the real deal. It used to be in Tucson, AZ. Its a rust bucket though. Its on the registry. Larry.

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What registry?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

All Z16s had the remote mirror. Tilt, wood wheel, power windows and vinyl top (and exterior and interior colors) were ONLY options.
Dave

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Hey Dave! Glad to see ya drop by with the info...https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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No orig. motor or trans.. just another USED TO BE car IMO. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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No problem DON just tell me where your old z16 is and ill forgive ya https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif.

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I'd love to have one of those used to be cars !

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No problem DON just tell me where your old z16 is and ill forgive ya https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif.

[/ QUOTE ]NO PROBLEM,I'LL TAKE YOU RIGHT TO IT AS SOON AS YOU SHOW ME THAT YENKO CHEVELLE THATS HIDING UP YOUR WAY https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gifPS,I BELIEVE IVE BEEN FORGIVIN! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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No orig. motor or trans.. just another USED TO BE car IMO. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Therefore not worth restoring?

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This is the same deal with restoring a badly beaten super car... your preserving/saving a VIN #.

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Like many ZL1s, most Z16s don't have the original engine and/or drivetrain. Also like the ZL1, it doesn't make them any less collectable. The Z16 has an incredible number of special, unique chassis parts. Like any desirable, valuable car, ANY legit Z16 is worth restoring - I hope we don't get into the "replace the handle, replace the bit - is the axe still original" debate again......https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif
Dave

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I have to agree and brings up the old question again. Just because much of the car is missing, does it warrant crushing a piece of history? I would much rather see the car in a museum with the wrong drive train then see it get crushed because much of it is missing.
Rick

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Restoring cars is like SEX their ALL good some are better!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Restoring cars is like SEX

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Restoring a car takes longer.........

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Never said the car was not worth Restoring.. just not Worth as much as the same car in same condition with the original drivetrain. As it stands now, to me.. it's a 65 Chevelle. Just my opinion gentlemen, nobody has to agree, it's what makes the hobby and the world so wonderful.. we can all agree to disagree and have different opinions without disliking each other for that opinion! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Mike

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There really is not a correct answer to the question. I was just wondering your opinion.