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69SSRSL89 10-05-2005 11:53 PM

Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
I have a set of original Goodyear F70 14 poly glas tires that I picked up earlier this summer and thought that they where used reproductions. I was thinking of using them to cruise around on but I would hate to waste a set of original dated tires. They are in good used shape. They are not perfect but they are still nice and have a good amount of tread on them. Does anyone know what the value on something like this would be and if there would be any interest in them? I'm not looking to make a killing off of them. I'd just rather sell them to someone that wants the dated originals than wear them out. I didn't post this in the for sale section since I'm unsure of the value and also interest. Thanks for all of you help in advance. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif Jesse

Mr70 10-06-2005 07:04 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
What's their DOT.

CamarosRus 10-06-2005 07:32 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
I'd like them for my 69 "recreation"

Chuck S

Charley Lillard 10-06-2005 07:38 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
Chuck...Polyglas is wrong for a 69 Camaro. You need Wide Tread.

CamarosRus 10-06-2005 08:00 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
Charley, I understand that, but my 69' being a FAKE, didnt think it would matter a lot.....I'm TOO cheap to spend $600 or whatever on NEW repops.....
Could YOU clarify which ORIGINAL cars did receive F70x14 Polyglas, as those tires seem to aappear often

Thanks, Chuck

Mr70 10-06-2005 08:02 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
Chevelles for one,and other GM A-bodies.

Charley Lillard 10-06-2005 08:11 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
I would think they would be worth more than a repop.

hvychev 10-06-2005 08:52 AM

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I'm TOO cheap to spend $600 or whatever on NEW repops.....


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Really? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

69SSRSL89 10-06-2005 04:40 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
I don't know a lot about how the dates break down but I talked with someone who knows a more about them and he had an original tire that we could compare them against. They still have the little stickers on them along with DOT molded into the tires. Which reproduction wouldn't have either of these things. Here are the numbers that are molded into them. AUNCL8DS - (B38, H38, B37). I'll try and post a few pictures of the tires later today. Jesse

Mr70 10-06-2005 06:57 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
Thanks Jesse.

69SSRSL89 10-06-2005 07:17 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
It looks like the pictues that I have are to large to post on this thread so, I will post them in my gallery so you can view them from there. Jesse

camaromb 10-06-2005 07:54 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
The Goodyear DOT information I have shows:
AU -16th week 1970
NC - Jackson plant
L8DS is application/size, F70-14.
Mark

69SSRSL89 10-06-2005 08:14 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
Mark, thanks for the break down on the DOT information.

I posted a few pictures in my gallery, but I could only get two to upload. If you guys would like to see a few more maybe someone could PM me and I could email them to you to get them resized and posted in the thread. Thanks guys. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Jesse

William 10-07-2005 01:24 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
Polyglas tires became optional for 1969 Camaros as of April 1, 1969. It was such a PR fiasco that DeLorean mentioned it in his book about GM.

Charley Lillard 10-07-2005 01:33 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
I have never seen a documented 69 with a polyglas tire. I have never even seen what appeared to be a orig Polyglas tire on a 69 rim. I have seen plenty of Wide Tread and Wide Tread GT's though.

William 10-07-2005 05:30 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
I have shippers' copies for ZL1 N650643 & COPO N661189 showing they were built with "5PL4JD F70X14 FG BELTED WH LET TIRES"

GTO_DON 10-07-2005 06:05 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
How much are these tires?

Tommy_Mathison 10-11-2005 01:32 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
In Jerry MacNeish's 1969 Z28/ COPO fact book there are numerous pictures of 69 Camaros with Goodyear Polyglas tires on them. Original or not, just thought you might like to take a look as alot of Jerry's pics are vintage 69. Who knows? Thanks! Tommy

Charley Lillard 10-11-2005 01:52 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
I just looked through Jerrys book and i only see a couple of pics of Polyglas tires on cars and none of them are vintage 69 pics. There is a pic of jerrys 67 Z on page 98 with Wide Tread GT's on it. On page 73 there is a vintage pic of a Z with MFG plate and it has Wide Tread GT's.

69SSRSL89 10-11-2005 05:45 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
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Here are a few pictures of the tires for you all to check out. As for a price on these tires. I'm not really sure of the value and I was looking for an idea from someone on the board here to tell me what they may be worth. I would have posted these pictures sooner but I needed to get them down sized. Anyway take a look at them and let me know what you think.

Jesse

69SSRSL89 10-11-2005 05:46 PM

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more pictures

69SSRSL89 10-11-2005 05:48 PM

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69SSRSL89 10-11-2005 05:48 PM

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69SSRSL89 10-11-2005 05:49 PM

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69SSRSL89 10-11-2005 05:49 PM

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more tires

69SSRSL89 10-11-2005 05:50 PM

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another tire pic.

69SSRSL89 10-11-2005 05:51 PM

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Verne_Frantz 10-11-2005 06:02 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
In case anyone's interested, those are the exact tires I had on my new '69 Road Runner. Not to take them away from anyone here, but you might consider making them known on some mopar site too.
Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

camarojoe 10-11-2005 06:26 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
There were no Polyglases on Chevrolets until the 1970 model year. Wide Tread was the only white lettered Goodyear used in 69.

Belair62 10-11-2005 06:44 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
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I have shippers' copies for ZL1 N650643 & COPO N661189 showing they were built with "5PL4JD F70X14 FG BELTED WH LET TIRES"


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I don't think William just fell off the watermelon cart...how would you account for this statement ?

camarojoe 10-11-2005 07:18 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
That statement doesn't tell me they using Goodyear Polyglas tires. No mention of brand, model of tire, etc... nor does it say what they were belted with. Show me an original 1969 photo of a 69 Camaro with Polyglas tires...

The 69 Indy 500 was in May, LATE May... yet from every photo I have ever seen, all cars at the track with goodyears on them, including the actual pace cars wore Wide Treads, NOT polyglas. You would think if they were actually installing these tires in April, the Indianapolis pace car would have them.

TimG 10-11-2005 07:55 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
The build sheets do not always indicate the actual tire that came on a car. I have a build sheet for a '67 Corvette with redline tires on it, the car did not arrive with these tires on it as per the window sticker. The final list of actual options is reflected on the window sticker.
My '69 Pace Car that I bought from the original owner came with Wide Tread tires. The dealer/owner tried to get the factory to put Polyglas tires on the car and they would not as per my conversation with him. When I bought the car from him in 1981 I asked why the spare and the tires on the car were different and he told me that he took the crapy original tires off the car immediately and put on the good Polyglas tires. The actual tires on '69 Pace Cars have "Speedway Special" or something like this on the back side.

Supercar_Kid 10-11-2005 08:00 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
I have several vintage photos that were taken on race weekend at Indy in '69. Not a Polyglas tire on a Pace Car in sight...but a few are definitely identifiable as having wore small lettered Firestone Wide Ovals. (Not to be confused with the large lettered "Wide O Oval" lettering introduced for '70) Perhaps that's what the shipper sheet is referencing on that ZL-1 and COPO. Could have also been Firestone Sport Car 200s...does anyone know if they were they fiberglas belted? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif
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William 10-11-2005 09:28 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
By virtue of the paperwork trail so near and dear to all of us there is no question fiberglass belted F70 x 14 RWL tires were a late option on 1969 Camaros.

The PR mess I mentioned involved Uniroyal. Firestone and Goodyear were also suppliers to Chevrolet and certainly could have supplied these tires. Goodyear Polyglas tires were available in '69; they were std on the '69 Hurst Olds.

We may never know for certain. The original owner of ZL1 #68 must still be around. Ask him what was on the car.

camarojoe 10-11-2005 10:22 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
I'm not arguing that belted tires were available in 69, nor am I arguing if Polyglas tires were produced in 69, as its quite known they were used by Mopar and even other GM divisions... My argument is that you will not find any Chevrolet cars using Goodyear Polyglas tires until 1970.

Supercar_Kid 10-11-2005 10:42 PM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
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By virtue of the paperwork trail so near and dear to all of us there is no question fiberglass belted F70 x 14 RWL tires were a late option on 1969 Camaros.

[/ QUOTE ] Were the 1969 Uniroyal Tiger Paws or Firestone Sport Car 200s fiberglas belted or only nylon? I see the shipper references "FG Belted" tires but what says that means they had to be of the Goodyear "Polyglas" variety? This is an interesting debate for sure.

William 10-12-2005 01:37 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
As 1969 Camaros were built into the '70 model year I believe it is possible some had Goodyear Polyglas tires just as other '70 models did.

The Sport Car 200 was an odd tire, sold only through Firestones' Racing Division as a friend learned when he cut one on his new Z/28. Both it and the Uniroyal Tiger Paw were cheap bias-ply tires that were gone in 20,000 miles.

"FG belted" does not mean Goodyear. We do not seem to know what it means.

Belair62 10-12-2005 01:48 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
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5PL4JD

[/ QUOTE ] What does this mean ???

Mr70 10-12-2005 02:04 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
It looks like:
5=total tires
PL4=F70X14 Bias Belted Ply white lettered(This is an RPO code shown not in the 1969 Chevrolet dealer Ordering Catalog,but rather in the 1970)
JD=?
FG=FiberGlass belted Tire

70-SS/RS-L78 10-12-2005 02:22 AM

Re: Original Goodyear Poly glas tires
 
These were used on 70 Camaro SS.
I am interested...


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