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CamarosRus 08-27-2005 10:11 PM

69 Camaro Horns.....Direction Facing Front or Rear
 
I have seen most but not all 69 Camaros with their 289 and 290 Horns installed so as the opening is facing forward. I have been told that the 69 Camaro assy manual shows them facing rearward. Can those with a 69 assy manual please study it, possibly scan and show it, or otherwise tell me what they SEE.......

Chuck Sharin

njsteve 08-28-2005 05:57 AM

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Here is a photo of a correct installation on a 69. They seem to face out, not necessarily forward or backward

Jonesy 08-28-2005 06:01 AM

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The terminal on the horn that the wiring hooks up to faces the rear and the horns face forward like in the pic. If you flip floped them around the other way the wiring on one side would jhave to go over the top of the horn to connect up. Above pic is the correct way.

CamarosRus 08-28-2005 08:48 AM

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Jonesy, I've had them facing FORWARD and facing REARWARD...and either way works without doing anything wierd with the wiring.....The above attached picture is too dark and not conclusive.......
I will forward this to Shaugger, Henderson, and others for more opinions...was hoping to HEAR or SEE what assy manual SHOWS!!!!

Regards, Chuck Sharin

camarojoe 08-28-2005 09:48 AM

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Assembly Manual (under $25 shipped)



indyjps 08-28-2005 03:25 PM

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ive got an assembly manual but my computer @ home is crashed. ill scan the manual in when computer is running unless it is worked out prior.

Jonesy 08-28-2005 05:33 PM

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Chuck

On page 156 of the 1969 Camaro Factory Assembly Manual, UPC 12, Sheet A5 it shows the horns facing what would APPEAR to be REARWARD.

Jonesy 08-28-2005 05:42 PM

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The horns on my 69 were facing forward in 1980 and were never off the car. The high note is on the pass side and the low note is on the drivers side right now. I just got them back fronm the horn works and Gary even said the reason why most of these horns dont work is because they were forward facing and took alll the elements into them.
There is a difference in wiring (whether you believe it or not)if you exchange each side. The factory assembly manual shows the drivers side wiring going to the rear of the horn. If I was to take the pass side horn and put it there it would go towards the front side of the horn and it would be a stretch for there to be enough slack in it to hook up.

Jonesy 08-28-2005 05:43 PM

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Another

Jonesy 08-28-2005 05:45 PM

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Another one

Jonesy 08-28-2005 05:46 PM

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one more

Jonesy 08-28-2005 05:46 PM

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last one

CamarosRus 08-31-2005 11:51 PM

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Jonesy, Thanks for your answer "On page 156 of the 1969 Camaro Factory Assembly Manual, UPC 12, Sheet A5 it shows the horns facing what would APPEAR to be REARWARD."
and then you other responses whereas your 69 Camaro has them facing FORWARD...........
Dissapointing to me that this web site, with members having $100,000 plus restored 69' Camaros cant elicit more of a definitive response to my restoration question.....
Guess I'll just look around this Saturday at the SuperCar Reunion and do as I see...........

Thanks, Chuck Sharin

budnate 09-01-2005 12:44 AM

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Chuck go take a valium and relax...your running at 50hertz again.

Belair62 09-01-2005 04:56 AM

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Dissapointing to me that this web site, with members having $100,000 plus restored 69' Camaros cant elicit more of a definitive response to my restoration question.....

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Chuck...I got the e-mail etc. Seems like people are interacting and trying to help you out...WTF does the value of some of the cars have to do with anything ?

Enoch 09-01-2005 07:32 AM

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Chuck, just because it is in the assembly manual does not mean that is the way the production line process went. I have found several "inverted" pictures pertaining to the installation of Corvette parts in the past 20 years of working on them.
That makes it doubly hard for a "dyslexic"(sp?) restorer like myself. So I would not be suprised at all for the Camaro manual to have a few also.
So what I do in a case like this is to research this from several different angels.
1. Check out original undisturbed cars.

2.Use some deductive reasoning. All chevrolet horns have a part # on them. For left and right. As is the case with chevrolet they made it easy for us to know the difference from right and left. As the right side (passenger) is even and the left side (drivers) is odd. (I may have that reversed my dyslexia acting up again)

So once you know which side goes where, you need to determine which side goes up. Here you can find 2 clues. First there is a bend on the mounting flange, and it needs to be installed with the bend in the downward position. Otherwise you would have an interference problem with the hood. Second the bolts that mount the horns on have a large serrated washer. So if you look on your horns you can see the impression from the teeth in the mounting flange.

So adding up the information you can determine for yourself, the assembly manual is incorrect in this case. If you don't belive me check out the part #'s and impressions from the washers and make the decision for yourself.

BTW this is a great site for information I "Lurk + Learn" every day. Hope this help, Rich.

Z28DZ 09-01-2005 06:36 PM

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Here's my addition to the post. This is from my former LA built Z28. I am very sure these are the way the factory put them on. I have seen them turned the other way. From what I recollect, the horns were mounted rearward to keep water from entering. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

69L78 09-07-2005 02:13 AM

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Chuck, Here is the correct way and hopefully a better pic for you to understand.

Steve Shauger 09-07-2005 02:44 AM

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Well every survivor car that I have inspected has had the horns facing forward as the attached file shows.


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