71 Motion Nova?
 

sorry if this is a dupe...I just saw this on E Bay...pretty cool if it's claimed lineage can be proved.

e bay # 4570573791 someday I'll learn how to do a direct link.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Piece of cake.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4570573791

Rick H.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

I have a feeling this is going to get interesting. Soooo.

Would these cars have drum front brakes? I am not up to snuff on these cars but that drum brake master cylinder sort of makes me what to go... Uhhh?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Rick H.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

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Would these cars have drum front brakes? I am not up to snuff on these cars but that drum brake master cylinder sort of makes me what to go... Uhhh?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Rick H.

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Any car could be taken to Motion Performance for work, so this car could have been worked on by Motion. Not saying it was, just saying it's possible. Without receipts or other bona-fide paperwork it's all speculation.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

There's at least one Baldwin-Motion '68 Camaro with drum brakes all around.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Ok but would Motion have put in a BE rear in a 1971 Nova? Or the 67 Vette sidepipes in 1971?

He clearly claims a true Motion performance conversion from the 1970's. Pretty strong statement with no paperwork to back it up.

Anybody have the advertisement he also claims backs up this car??

Rick H.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Who knows? Maybe the owner bought a used 12-bolt that happened to be a BE-code unit and Motion installed it during the upgrade. In 1971 Corvette sidepipes were not as desireable/hoardable as they are today. The owner might have just bought a used set from a wrecking yard and had Motion install them. Again, no paperwork means anything is possible but nothing can be proved.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Maybe you missed this from the other thread.

Response from the Seller:
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Hi,
The story and I emphasize "story"...is that the car was built at Motion and
came out of Pennsyvania a few years back.I have no physical proof of this and I
am offering no more than what you see.

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If he felt it was legit, surely he would have spent the $1,500 to find out.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

August 1967 rear end, not a BE rear. Sounds like some people are interested in a gamble as the seller said he has been offerred above the reserve to end the auction early from a few parties.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Maybe they know the mechanics uncles brother-in -law who's sister used to know a guy that worked there ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

He says the "Hurst Shifter was replaced with a Quarter Stick" but all I see in any pic is a column shifter with what looks like his line-loc attached.
Cool looking car though https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Maybe he means hes only a quarter of the way through installing the stick. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Hello

New to the board. I found this Nova relisted and it looks like it was just a plain Jane Nova. The vin listed in the auction now starts with 11327 instead of 11427 as previously listed. Also if no one noticed in the photos it has the 6 cyl radiator shroud. Still a nice looking ride but by no means an SS or let alone a Motion conversion unless Joel converted plain jane's as well.

Jay

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

He's changed the description from being a "Motion" car to a car built with Motion parts.

Here's the original link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4570573791

Here's the current link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4574143550

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Hey Term, how's your car coming along?

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

It's coming along slowly but making progress. I don't have much free time to spend on it. I have spent the summer cleaning up the underside of the car. It's looks really good, solid clean metal for the most part. I'm close to getting it done and then painting it. I really liked the Nova on ebay as it looks just about like mine minus the side pipes.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

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It's coming along slowly but making progress. I don't have much free time to spend on it. I have spent the summer cleaning up the underside of the car. It's looks really good, solid clean metal for the most part. I'm close to getting it done and then painting it. I really liked the Nova on ebay as it looks just about like mine minus the side pipes.

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How about some pics https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

I'll second that. Let's see some pics and hear more details about the car. Is this a documented BM Nova?

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Sure thing as soon as I figure out how to post them. I have confirmed from the original owner that is was sold through baldwin chevrolet and is an original phase III car. I came across the car about 16 or so years ago in Trenton on a trip to NJ and bought it for about $2K. It still has most of the phase III goodies such as the CD ignition, hood tach and rear suspension. The fuel pumps are gone but the hole is still in the trunk where is was attached. It was originally Blue with a black vinyl top which I hope to put back on the car and get it looking like it did when new.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Sounds like a cool car and am looking forward to some pics.

A word of friendly advice, spend the $1,500 and get the car documented through Joel Rosen asap. You never know how long he will continue to document them, and without that, if and when you ever needed to sell, without a letter from Joel and/or other paper, you have nothing but a 36 year old Nova. Not that a 69 Nova is a bad thing but it will obviously be worth at least 10 times more as a documented BM car.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

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Sure thing as soon as I figure out how to post them.

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Email the pictures to me, I'll post them for you. I totally agree with the advise COPO gave you. Get ahold of Joel Rosen, and have that Nova of yours documented. Sure, it will cost you $1,500.00, but if it turns out to be an "authentic" 69 BM Nova, you won't be sorry in the long run, that's if you ever need to sell it. I would much rather have Joel's approval and signed certificate, than what the original owner told you. Good luck!

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Here's one, I'll get more up soon.

http://home.att.net/~terminator69/motion1a.jpg

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Wow! Cool pic https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Might this car be the mag article car? Did this car ever go to Puerto Rico?

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Someone else asked me the same thing on another message board I joined a while back and I had no idea about that article until it was pointed out to me. When I saw it I was stunned by how much it looks like my car, if not identical in every way. However, I do not know if it is the "article" car but it sure is a dead ringer for it though. When I found the car in NJ, eventhough I had never seen a Motion Nova before, from everything I knew about Motion cars back then, I was pretty sure this had to be one as the clues were there upon closer inspection. So I took a chance and made an offer and apparently the kid I bought it from didn't know any better https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif and at the time he needed the money more than the car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Jay

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

sure looks like the mag car to me! the puerto rico part is heresay so I'm not sure if the mag car actually went there or not.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Hello Members....just thought I'd respond to this post as I came across it several weeks ago while doing research on this car that was for sale on ebay back in August/September 2005.

I am the new owner of the car this thread was started for. Let me first start by saying I am a newbie to this site as well as the muscle car forum...being a Gen-X "kid" of 36 years old...I admittedly have come from a hobby of import sports cars...and am just getting my feet wet in your area of expertise. Don't get me wrong...I do know a small bit about these cars...and was actually pursuing the purchase of a '69 Yenko Camaro or Chevelle (tribute car admittedly) as lack of funds would not allow the purchase of a genuine Yenko car.
That is what led me to this car as I trolled Ebay and other sites like collectcartraderonline.com looking for the right car. For those of you on this board who have authentic Yenko's, Baldwin's etc...I am not intending any disrespect by joining your forum with what admittedly is likely not even a Motion "worked" car as was advertised initally by the seller.
As the seller stated, although the story did change here and there each time it was told to me, the "story" is that the car was a Nova that the owner either took to Motion for some "work" and parts installation, or more likely ordered Motion parts via their mail-order catalog to build a tribute car, conversion, clone...whatever your favorite term is for this type of car. As stated, there is no physical proof or paperwork to verify either story...so it could be a total fake Motion reference other than a few emblems and stickers. I bought the car in full knowledge this is likely just a tribute car with possibility of some Motion parts (or comparable parts) with no way to prove any lineage even if any ever existed.
As stated by some other posts earlier in the thread, I think it's a pretty cool looking car...the Vette sidepipes, Motion hood and 427 badges do turn heads and garner questions even though I've only had the car about 3 weeks and have driven the car about 50 miles total. I got the car for my wife and I to do some summer cruising in and maybe go to a few local car shows for fun.
This car is not in show condition as the paint on the hood, roof, and trunk has seen better days do to sitting outside for some period of time. But overall the car seems to run and drive pretty solid, non-numbers matching of course...
Anyway, if anyone is local to me and would like to check out the car and maybe tell me for sure what parts may or may not be Motion or similar COPO parts, so that I truly know what I have or don't have...I would appreciate that very much. While the car is for fun...I do like to be honest with people who will ask questions about it being a BM car...and want to know the truth myself so I know what I have. I'm not sure taking it to a local "speed shop" will help me answer any of those questions, and so I am here to get any help or additional information I can....again...so that I know what I have when speaking about it, and speaking in relation to real Motion cars as well.
I do have a '71 Motion Performance catalog to match part numbers. Any comments or assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif car to get your feet wet---Glad you crossed over from the dark side https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Here is what the car supposedly has that is either Motion or comparable:

1971 427 CE engine with Motion valve covers - unknown cam, although "story" is possible L-88 - not holding my breath on that one.

Competition 400 which now has Hurst 1/4 stick - was 3 speed on the column

4.10 Posi 12 bolt rear

'67 Vette sidepipes

Disc brakes?

Multileaf springs and drag shocks with traction masters

"Motion" fiberglass hood

Has Holley 850 carb that came with car with not installed

No actual Motion emblems other than valve covers...a few stickers, and the SS427 emblems.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif car to get your feet wet---Glad you crossed over from the dark side https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Thanks JoeG....yes, my last "toy" was a 450HP Mitsubishi 3000GT AWD Twin-Turbo...so this Nova handles a bit differently!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Where in PA are ya?

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

I live outside Reading, PA

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Are you north or south?
I'm 45 mins north. Would love to see your car some day.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

I'm 15 miles East of Reading.

Is this car a butterscotch with white stripes? If so, I raced against it at the grove a few years ago https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

I think this is the car that we are talking about. Real or not it still looks very https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Ok, different car.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

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Yes...69SSRSL89...that is a pic of my car...the one from ebay a few months back...thanks...I think it looks cool...and sounds great with the sidepipes...

I live in Fleetwood which is just NE of Reading....

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

for the local PA guys...are there any Nova or Chevy clubs you belong to in the area...I know there's the Pretzel City Hot Rod club or something like that here in Berks County...just curious as even though this car is far from a show winner, I'd still like to come to some local shows, cruises etc and meet people and show the car....and would love to see your cars...

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Fleetwood!!! I live in Longswamp and my Son plays soccer and basketball for Topton. Small world? In the summer they have a monthly cruse night in Macungie it attract's several hundred cars each time, you should bring the nova by.
Rich.

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

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Fleetwood...Longswamp ...Topton...Macungie

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........ https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif ..... really .....https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif ..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

<font color="blue">(Just kidding) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif </font>

Re: 71 Motion Nova?
 

Fleetwood? Small world, I'm in Douglassville.

Once a month during the summer there is a cruise at the Oley Turnpike Dairy ice cream shop, bring it on by - and roast 'em as you leave https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif