Triple Green or Triple Black LS5
 

Knowing that I'd probably get some very straight forward opinions on this subject I thought I'd throw it out for discussion. I've just purchased a super nice rust free numbers matching 1970 Chevelle LS5. M22 4sp, bench seat , A/C . The car is about 1/3 of the way through a rotisserie restoration. I've always had a real problem painting a car a different color than what is on the cowl tag, However. this car came from the factory in TRIPLE GREEN ...795 45 B...ouch. Given my resent experience with green Chevelles and my personal dislike for green interior and green vinyl tops I have a real problem restoring this car triple green. So, my question is simple triple green or triple black. I know what my personal preference is but being a small collector that rotates his collection on a regular basis (until I find that dream car) I have to be concerned about the neg. impact on the cars value by changing the trim combination vs. the neg. impact on the cars value because it's triple green. I know some will say that a true enthusiast should not concern him or her self with the value of their car but I personal don't subscribe to that opinion. These car cost to much to purchase and to much to restore to make a decision that has a major neg. impact on it's value. So, triple green or triple black is the 64 dollar question.https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Thanks in advanced for you input

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IF you plan on keeping this car forever, paint it black.

However, "being a small collector that rotates his collection" indicates you won't likely have it long term. If you know you will likely sell it someday, keep it original color.

Luckily my 69 Z is black with black interior. I would be having the same struggle as you if it were any color of green, although the very dark fathom green has grown on me over the years.

Or, just do like so many guys nowadays, and replace the trim tag with a "reproduction" tag. Of course, I am NOT serious. I wish it were illegal to make fake tags.

Lynn

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green,green, and green... flipper or not.

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I second that...

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I'd stay with the green as well...you'll be better off when you eventually sell.

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If a car is done well it will transcend the tri-green scheme. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif The more I see these green cars (remember this was a very popular color back then) the more they grow on me too.

Good luck,

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Black on black...no vinyl top. I would have no problem buying your car like that. If it's triple green, I'm not even gonna look at it. And you know first-hand from your last experience that's just the way it is. I can't imagine spending the time and money to restore a car that I didn't like the color. With the exception of the mega-dollar cars, I'll take a color change if done correctly any day. And so will the type of buyer looking in the price range of LS5's today. I'll be the first to admit, I am probably one of the exceptions on this, especially on a forum such as this that caters to originality.

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If you're looking for a quick resale,go with Triple Black.
If you will keep it long term,go with it's original green scheme.
It will take you longer to sell it in this color anyway.

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Black/black/black... the triple green is not an attractive combination and if you do intend to sell it down the road the black will appeal to more buyers.

If I may ask.. are the guys calling for triple green saying so because they like the color combination and would buy a car with those colors? Or is it because that is how it came from the factory and come hell or high water it should stay the same way no matter if it is attractive or not?

How about green with a black top and black interior? That is certainly not a bad combination!

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I say leave it green. It is what it is! That is how it was ordered. Get a street rod if you want to change colors! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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As the owner of a triple green '70 Chevelle, I say leave it green. If your codes are indeed 795/45 B, then your car was born with a black vinyl top.....not green. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif

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Do you also have documetation for this car? If so, it seems to me all the stars are in alignment for leaving it original especially if you are also going to the extent of restoration that it sounds like you are. The black vinyl roof will be in your favor as well (over the green) from a resale perspective. Delete or white stripe car?

If you don't have docs I might call this a split decision.

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Jim, I agree 100%. Up to this point I have had a genetic predisposition against changing the color of a car. However, in this case I may need some gene therapy.

Bill, I to am wondering of those that recommend leaving the car triple green what %age would actually consider buying a triple green car. I know I wouldn't. O, wait a minute I just did didn't I

Correction on a typo, the vinyl top code is G. I must have blacked out wile I was typing it. I think if I ever decided to sell the car I would have to be on medication if I left it green. Like with the LS6 car it got to the point where I was ready to pull what hair I have left out if one more person told me "man that green really hurts the value" and that car was stunning with ivory interior and white stripes. What to do. What to do.

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"in this case I may need some gene therapy."

"what %age would actually consider buying a triple green car. I know I wouldn't."

"I would have to be on medication if I left it green."

"man that green really hurts the value"

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Green LS-6
For someone that hates green, I think you have done quite well with them. I must agree but man they were sure popular in the 70's. More and more people are starting to like Green.

Just given ya poop Rick. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif I would likely face the same questions to myself if I owned one.
Rick

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Paint it red with a red interior and no vinyl top. White stripes.

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I say keep everything else original and put a black or white interior in it. If someone wants a 100% correct car they could change the interior instead of having to redo the whole car if it was triple black.

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Unfortunately, the LS6 didn't bring anywhere near that kind of money...it was green https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif If it had been any other color I think it would have. The low mileage also hurt that car, belive it or not.

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I would think changing the color would only increase the value.

OK, here is a poll question. Be honest!!

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How about leaving it the way it is and selling to me?

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OK, coming from the owner of a DOUBLE Black car, I have to say....... Leave It Green!

I've always leaned toward the unusual color combos...... (like a certain Gobi Biege Deuce!) No offense to the owners of Red or Blue cars but there's just too many of them. A friend of mine just bought a #'s matching '69 Z-28. It's currently Red w/ Black stripes but is an original Frost Green car. It's going back Green!
Celebrate the variety in life. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I would think changing the color would only increase the value.

OK, here is a poll question. Be honest!!

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Carnack predicts 9 to 1 ratio in favor of tri-blackhttps://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif - but I am not trying to influence the voters. My point is, you might want to pose the question differently like "would you ever buy a tri-green car"? To compare it to something as devastatingly hot as a tri-black (particularly stripe delete) may be a bit unfair https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif. My response is, it depends: Which motor, is the drivetrain original, is the car documented, does the car have an interesting history, what is the condition of the tri-green scheme. I will admit that the car would have to have most of these things aforementioned going for it in order for me to buy it, but I would definitely consider it. A dead-on paint job in a car with attention to detail in many respects can do a lot to overcome a less than desirable color scheme https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif.

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I say black, or whatever desirable color you want. It's your car and if your just not going to enjoy the car if it's not appealing to you then paint it, or sell it and find a black one. As far as resale it's a coin flip. Your either going to sell it to a stunch "got to be original" guy or a guy that dosent care and loves the car in black. There's an a$$ for every pair of pants, and with the all the new collectors coming into the hobby everyday someone would want it. If it was an LS6 it would be a little harder to make that choice, but still it's your car do what you want, worry about resale when the time comes.

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If it's triple-green, most guys will say "Nice car" out loud while in their heads they're thinking, "Too bad it's triple-green."

How about a black interior and black top and green paint? Change at least the interior to black to help the car out of its unfortunate original scheme. Maybe change the interior to black and consider leaving the vinyl top off.

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I'll go with that idea, sounds like a good plan!

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Though they look nice, I wouldn't respray in black. It's gotten to where I assume every black '70 SS Chevelle was green until the tag proves otherwise. It's the defacto color change color. I personally know of two LS6 cars locally that are this way. Whereas several years ago I helped sell a nice '67 Camaro SS396/325hp 4sp car that was changed from Granada Gold to Tahoe Turquoise, and the color change issue didn't really come up. I think people were so taken by the color, yet its so rarely seen, that they didn't ask about the tag info until after they had fallen in love with the car. I know this is fuzzy logic, but I believe it to be true. Black musclecars just make me suspicious, since so few are legit. I immediately check the tag, then immediately start looking critically at what other "improvements" were made.

Though I personally am a purist at my core and don't like color changes, I know how tough some combinations are. We once had a heck of a time selling a '70 LS5, white on black with black stripes, bucket seats and COLUMN SHIFT AUTO WITH NO CONSOLE. Purist or not, there's no way I'd go to the trouble of restoring a car and not put a shifter between the bucket sears. (The white paint didn't do anything for the car, either.) And, if I were to deviate from the trim tag on any '70 Chevelle, I'd lose the vinyl top since I don't think they complement the body lines very well.

If you do the color change, I think the blues and turquoises that year are very nice, and not seen enough. Black interiors are boring to me at this point, but nobody seems to object to them, which is what you want when selling it, right?

(And finally, being this self proclaimed purist who values diversity, distrusts black cars, and believes synthetic tops ruin the lines of ''68-72 A bodies- what is my dream ''70 SS you ask? Well, that would be a certain black on red, stripe delete, LS6 ragtop. The heart and the mind don't always mesh.)



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My Dad once told me "theres an a$$ for every seat" I'm sure there is someone looking to buy your car with the original color green.I like green car's.I wouldn't have ordered my 68 camaro suquoia green/black, but i'm glad the original did,I just love it. Paint it any color you want. It's not the original paint,so it can be changed again.

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I wouldn't have ordered my 68 camaro suquoia green/black, but i'm glad the original did,I just love it.

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Cool! Sequoia Green is a great, although very uncommon color. I had a Seafrost Green '68 Chevelle and my best friend had a matching car in Sequoia Green. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Indeed you can do whatever you want, from color to options to wheels and tires, its your car... but the fact remains that green is correct and black is not.

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As the owner of a Rallye Green 69 Camaro....I vote for the green. The color will grow on you.

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Oh, let's not forget that with expert application and some subtle formula tweaking by experienced painters, I've seen dark greens and even Burnished Brown cars that have turned out awfully sharp, and much more attractive than original '69/70-spec GM paint. (Silver and Gold cars, too.) The key is finding a mix that has more depth, or "snap", or whatever, yet still doesn't look out of character. Subtle tweaks can have a huge impact on overall impressions.

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Paint it green. If you want a black car buy a black one. Its a great car, paint it the color it is suppose to be. If you restore antique furniture don't you refinish it in the correct stain or paint it is suppose to be. Only dopes would spend 100,000 on a car that was not the right color. But true....there are alot of them out there! Dopes that is. Paint it correctly! Sam https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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Bill that voting idea is just to cool. It's almost like a reality show where the audience gets to vote on whether the guys a dope or not. I appreciate the input and comments. I have to say so far I'm a little surprised at the results. Where were all these green Chevelle supporters when I was trying to sell the LS6? I used triple black because it's one of my all time favorite trim combs and because it’s the extreme opposite of triple green. However, triple black is not etched in stone. I could go Astro Blue in a heartbeat, but triple green https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Thanks again for the comments

Rick

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Tripple green is rare. If the resto is as nice as it sounds I think you will have NO trouble selling it. You may not want to sell it when done! Green with envy!!!!

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Go to members ride's page 4, M G Porters LS6, and tell me you don't have your mouth open thinking what a cool car. Your not thinking,to bad it's GREEN.

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If I was going to pick the color change instead of just green versus black, I would go to Astro Blue. As far as where were all those Green supporters when you were trying to sell your car.....they were still trying to sell their green cars to no avail!

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Where were all these green Chevelle supporters when I was trying to sell the LS6?

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Exactly.

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Paint it green. If you want a black car buy a black one. Its a great car, paint it the color it is suppose to be. If you restore antique furniture don't you refinish it in the correct stain or paint it is suppose to be. Only dopes would spend 100,000 on a car that was not the right color. But true....there are alot of them out there! Dopes that is. Paint it correctly! Sam https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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Exactly.

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Could someone post some pics of green and black Chevelles?

I do think that green with a black interior is a nice combination. It's just that green interior https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif.. no offense to anyone who has one but it is just not my style. And with a green soft top???? Uggg!!! Not sure who back in the day thought that was a hot combination!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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this car came from the factory in TRIPLE GREEN ...795 45 B...ouch. Given my resent experience with green Chevelles and my personal dislike for green interior and green vinyl tops I have a real problem restoring this car triple green.

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And, should you decide to complete the car in triple green, it sounds like your real problem will still exist once the restoration's finished. It sounds to me like you have a difficult decision to make, various opinions notwithstanding.

Again, people, especially the intelligentsia , will tell you, "Nice car" to your face and then walk away thinking, "Too bad it's triple green." That's just the hard economic truth. If you paint it Cranberry Red with black stripes (or any popular color), people will crowd around it and most will wish they owned it. Purists, all due respect, will scoff because it's been color-changed. To each his own. Let them open their wallets for a triple-green LS5. Green paint is fine, triple-green is, as you said: "ouch."

Yes, there is always a "dope" who will pay $100,000 for a color-changed SS454 Chevelle but what if they're happy with their purchase? What if they take their 100K prize out every sunny Saturday for a 30-mile drive and return home with a huge grin on their face, not caring about the "provenance" of their dream machine? Some will say that person is a "dope." Others will say only a "dope" would restore a car in triple-green. To each his own.

Rick, you do have a tough decision to make! Sounds like it might be an "ouch" no matter what you do. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Good luck!

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Rick, You Texans been in the sun to long! Just paint the car. I don't think President Bush took this much time to decide to invade Iraq! Just paint the car what ever color you want to. Paint it in day-2 paint and nobody will question anything. Lace panels and bubbles. Sell it in primer or hey tell everybody that this originally was a body in white! There you go. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif