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http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coup...05_fordshelby/
This here is an artical on the new Shelby 500KR coming out next year, list price will be around 40K. This car is one bad Mother packing around 500hp and 12 second quarters with high gears. (Like to see it with some 4. something gearing). Anyway, the new car handles, runs, brakes, ect, a heck of alot better that the 60's model and you can get it for a quater of the cost and you are not afraid to drive it or even beat on it because guess what...It has a factory warranty https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif... So when this car comes out will the demand for the 60's models deminish some? I never thought I would say this but I would buy one https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif. Now if Chevy came out with a carbon copy of the camaro 69's which you could get a 500hp 302 or LS7 for 40 grand who here would line up to get one? I personally believe they couldnt make them fast enough... Charley figured they would cost around 80 grand, but Ford is doing it for half that and there bonds are trading like Junk so GM could definatley do it better and cheaper. Ford is increasing production on the Mustang 70 percent next year. GM just ran a pole through AOL on there new 06 model line and only 16 percent of the public liked them and over 84 percent didnt. GM better wake up soon. There high management team was born around the great depression and have no clue...Maybe if they keep rolling out unwanted cars we can get together and buy all the stock when it trades on the pinks and do it the right way...Gee whiz, what a concept, an fast sporty car. who would of guessed...I hear the Aztec is on sale right now, we can buy that, all hop in and drive to the Ford dealarship and get a real car... If I was a GM employee I would be very worried right now...The layoff's are just beginning... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif |
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Now if Chevy came out with a carbon copy of the camaro 69's which you could get a 500hp 302 or LS7 for 40 grand who here would line up to get one? [/ QUOTE ] I would be taking a number and getting in line! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif |
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I saw an artist's concept of the "new Camaro" a few months back in one of the magazines. It was strongly reminiscent of the '69 model. If anyone else remembers it and could post the picture I'd like to see it again. I could try to look it up in my 'library' but the car would be in production, discontinued and the guys at SCW would be doing restorations on them before I found it! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
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If only you could buy one for the $40,000.00 price.
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Is this the car you are thinking of.
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add another!!!
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Looks more like a Benz than a camaro..
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Is this the car you are thinking of. [/ QUOTE ] Or, is it this one? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...amaro_01_z.jpg |
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66 L-34,Way cool looking car.
SamLBInj,Been there,done that about being scared about losing your job.I worked at the #1 office furniture maker in the world for 7 1/2 yrs [not very long]when 9/11 came and dropped the bottom out of the market.Way over chiefed for the indians they had working.Been gone for 3yrs. they are finally starting to make money again after cutting the work force in half.People with 18-20yrs are now on 3rd shift and are low seniority.That is the place you went to work to retire. Back to the thread.Pull your heads out of your $#%!! GM or you wont be around for much longer.Build something that people want,and they will break the doors down trying to buy one.Enough said. Kendall |
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Interest in '60s musclecars will never drop. Once they've been defined as valuable and a good investment people never forget that. Yeah, prices go up and down but they mainly go up over time.
Model A Ford roadster/Vicky/coupe prices, or any of the desireable '28-40 Fords, are still strong and they're even re-popping certain body styles. It'll cost you at least $50K to build a nice '32 Ford roadster today and it would be a lot more if people like Brookville weren't making new bodies. 1967-68 Shelbys will always command strong prices--unless the U.S. economy collapses, but that's not likely. I wonder if GM will continue its terrible downward slide and be bought by China? The Chinese are after Unocal now and they've bought a major piece of IBM recently. GM execs are under intense pressure from Wall Street banks to rid the company of its huge pension and health care obligations (except for upper management, that is). The future seems to be the end of employee pensions and employer-provided health care and to do it some corporations will have to go into bankruptcy to get out from under the laws covering such obligations. Don't rule-out China buying GM and moving it to China, lock, stock, and barrel. The U.S. business/banking community has already warned the U.S. government to butt-out of the Chinese bid for Unocal and if the government allows China to buy Unocal, there's nothing to stop them from buying other American flagship companies like GM. Once it's bankrupt, a corporation's management will be happy to take anyone's money to buy the company. We fought the Cold War for nearly 50 years. The Cold War's main mission was to halt the spread of Communism. Anyone remember the saying, "Better dead than Red." China is a Communist country but they're our friends now. But I thought Communism was evil? That's what we were taught for 50 years. Now Communism isn't evil anymore? So what happened? We "won" the Cold War, right? What did we win? Did we defeat Communism or just get a few of their missiles dismantled? Or did we gain a new business partner, one that can use its Communist army to quickly crush any labor uprisings a-la the Tiananamen Square massacre in 1989? What I fear is that the U.S. corporate structure looks to China and its huge population as a direct replacement for "overpaid" American middle-class workers. If any labor unrest should rear its ugly head the Communist army will simply crush it outright. How convenient. No wonder many of our corporations are excited about moving to China. Plus, there are no environmental regulations whatsoever. Wal-Mart's in-store stock is more than 80% Chinese-Communist produced and supplied. I guess my years in SAC (USAF Strtegic Air Command) sitting on alert waiting for the klaxon to go off were all for nothing now that the Communist Chinese government is our main business partner. No, I do not shop at Wal-Mart. "Buy American" is getting harder and harder to do. But, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif |
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The blue Camaro concept on the website posted has Viper Wheels on it ... and that *hugger* orange Camaro concept has a rear 1/4 panel that has a striking resemblance to a Ferrari 355. Clearly these are computer renderings, nothing remotely close to the car GM has yet to draw. Its still a long shot.
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Sam Walton was a hypocrate, Buy American to him meant buy at Wal-mart, Period...Heres a little info on Sam, By the way, if he were alive today he would be the worlds richest man at over 100 Billion Dollars, More than double Gates fortune..Read on...
"Sam was an advocate of importing. It was his vision," said a retired senior executive, who was a buyer in Wal-Mart's Hong Kong office in the 1980s, and who asked to keep his identity private. "Our first office was in Hong Kong, then Taiwan. Korea soon after. We'd visit factories, see how they store goods. You would look at every step of the process very carefully." "From the beginning, Walton had bought goods wherever he could get them cheapest, with any other considerations secondary," writes Bob Ortega, author of the Wal-Mart history, In Sam We Trust. By the early 1980s, Ortega reports, Walton "increasingly looked to imports, which were usually cheaper because factory workers were paid so much less in China and the other Asian countries." According to Ortega, Walton himself estimated that imports accounted for nearly 6 percent of Wal-Mart's total sales in 1984. But another observer of that period, Frank Yuan, a former Taiwan-based apparel middleman, who dealt with Wal-Mart in the 1980s, puts the number, including indirect imports, at around 40 percent from "day one." Either way, Walton's vision was a harbinger of far vaster global sourcing today." |
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