Unrestored 1970 LS6 What's it Worth
 

I'm looking at an 1970 Chevelle LS6 a friend of a friend has and may be thinking about selling. I'm having a little trouble making my mind up as to what it's worth. I'm going back to take some pictures tomorrow. When I first say the car it was hard to believe it was an unrestored / survivor car. However everything I've seen indicates it is.

Here's the low down on the car.

17,000 original documented miles
Unrestored (strong #2-1/2 car)
Original Forest Green Paint Black Stripes (paint is very very nice)
Zero Rust
Undercarriage is very nice, clean with some original markings. Has had some spray paint taken to the floor pans.
Original Black Bench interior (like new)
Auto
Everything under the hood and drive train checks out to be numbers matching, casting number and date code correct
POP
Build sheet

I'll attach some pics as soon as I have them.

Any ideas???

Rick

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If all is true and legit it sounds like a great car. Mucho dinero. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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1970 Forest Green Chevelle SS's would not have had black stripes from the factory......only white.

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Sorry, you're correct. I was thinking white and typed black. It does have white stripes.

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Are you able to unravel past owner history?
How is the Trunk compartment & still holding Factory spare?
Exterior still wearing factory lacquer?
Still holding Spiral shox or T-3 Headlights?
Cowl induction flapper hood & Tach & gauges?
Rearend ratio & what Tires(Age & Brand)are on it now?
Has the engine block or engine compartment been resprayed anywhere since it left the line?
No headers I hope, & is it still carrying A.I.R.,or is it that off to the side?
These cars by their very nature were hot rodded out at some time in their life.
Hard to determine actual value w/o seeing more or in person or VERY clear pix.

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This is what I know so far

One previous owner
Trunk looks untouched
No A.I.R.
Factory spare
Original lacquer
T-3's no Spiral shocks
Cowl induction w/ flapper hood
3:31 Posi
TA Radials
Tach & Gauges
Have to take a closer look at the engine compartment
Factory exhaust manifolds

Just trying to get in the ball park

Thanks
Rick

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Can't get hurt at $20K. anything over that you need to really back up everything the others have mentioned above.

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If it is as you described..I would say anywhere from 45K to 75k. Miles and orig paint a plus...bench seat column auto a minus. Cool car.

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Can't get hurt at $20K. anything over that you need to really back up everything the others have mentioned above.

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Shoot me a price on your Copo using the same formula that you used on this LS6,17k survivor. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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I was able to spend about 2 hours looking at the Chevelle today. Unfortunately I left the memory card for my camera in my reader at home. The car is much nice than I was led to belive. I would say it is in near show condition. It looks like a car 16,445 miles on it. The current owner has put about 500 miles on the car in the past 6 years. The balance of the time it was stored in a wearhouse, on a lift with a cover on it. The paint is nearly perfect with very little spider webbing. The fender extensions have been repainted but that is about it. It appears it may have it's factory exhaust system with resonators but I'm not exactly sure how to tell. The car looks almost untouched with the exception of some spray paint on the floor pans and drive shaft. The car does have it's complete and working A.I.R. system, original sprial shocks, original plug wires and original battery. It also appears to have the original tags on the front coil springs and all the original decals under the hood. It comes with 3 build sheets, POP and the original window sticker.

Thanks for the feedback

Rick

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It appears it may have it's factory exhaust system with resonators but I'm not exactly sure how to tell.

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Rick,
Factory exhaust will have part numbers and dates on the muffler and part numbers on the resonators. The head pipe will be one piece into the front of the muffler with no clamps. The tail pipe coming out of the rear of the muffler will have a locating tab cut into it and the rear flange pipe on the muffler will have the same tab welded onto it. I will have an original LS-6 exhaust system here within the week and will take photos of it and send them to you if necessary.

I agree with Charley, a car like this could be worth a LOT of money. Do your homework, write down all the part numbers and dates off the important items such as carb, dist, heads, manifolds, waterpump, starter, fan, radiator, transmission, rearend, etc. If you have questions or need help, let me know and I will offer what I can.
Rick

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Rick,
If you decide to pass on the car because it's missing the correct spare tire ,headlites,shocks,dist,starter,resprayed engine,ect...please forward the owners info to Astock.

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Rick , Thanks for the info on the exhaust system, very informative. Please send a picture at your convenience. I have checked the numbers and date codes on every item you mentioned plus more. All the part/casting numbers are correct and the date codes precede the 3C build date by a few weeks to a month. Even the pump to carb fuel line bracket has the GM part number on it. At some point there seems to be a substantial leap forward in value for the ultra-original cars, as seen with the 27 mile LS6 for 400K. Those cars are beyond numbers matching. Not to suggest that this car is worth anything close to what that LS6 appears to be worth. However, this car appears to be almost a duplicate of the car in Forest Green. Every bite as nice. I only use that car as a comparison because from what I've read on this site that appears to be a benchmark car. The trunks look identical. At this point I'm just trying to determine how original the car really is. At this level of verification I run short on specific information rather quickly. Your offer of help is appreciated and needed. I'll post some pictures as soon as I have them.

I agree with Charlie that a bench seat column shift is a minus but may be somewhat over come by originality. It didn't seem to hurt the 27 mile LS6

Also, The car has Ivory interior not Black. With the white stripes, even on a green car it looks damn good.

Thanks
Rick

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Surely your friend knows what he has, unless he has been in a glass bubble. Cool car.

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Why have you not bought it yet! Grab it before someone else does? I am sure that you guys have had to talk price by now.....how much? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Rick, I am here in houston, if you need any help let me know I would be more then happy to help you. I just purchased a survivor car LS6 and it is very rare so I could give you indicator of its value. Thanks Sean https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

1970 LS6 survivor 1 of 1
1969 copo super stock camaro (Vitar Car) Special Thanks to Clint Richmond
1967 427/435 hp 4 speed vette
1968 ss 396 chevelle
1970 440 six pack triple black 4 speed challenger
1964 plymouth savoy aluminum lightweight "HEMI" super Stocker
1967 outlaw 10.5 camaro 710 bbc 4 stages of NOS https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif
1966 chevy nova 410 sbc turbo motor outlaw 10.5

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How did you get Clint to cut that Vitar COPO Loose? It is one of my favorite COPO Race Cars.

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What is this one of one LS6 car ?

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Come on man...post the pics...

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Thanks for the offer Sean I may take you up on it.

The only reason this LS6 is not sitting in my shop right now is because when I went to inspect the car the factory documents were not available to be inspected. The current owner keeps all the documentation in a fire proof safe at his office. I can't pull the trigger on buying a car with docs with out seeing the docs first. I'm more worried about the owner deciding, for some reason not to sell than I am someone else getting the car. The car is not actively for sale. However, we have a deal at a given price contingent on the docs checking out. The owner feels like he knows what the car is worth but told me flat out he could get more for the car than the price we agreed on if he wanted to, as he said "put it on the Ebay thing...but I don't want to screw with that." He's totally lost interest in the car, he's moving and just wants it out of the way. I'm more than happy to oblige. Still no pictures however. I could not get in touch with him today and he can't figure out how to email the pictures he has. So I'm stuck with no pictures until I actually do the deal tomorrow around 1:00pm. So one more sleepless night before I can relax. I will post pictures on this site ASAP so I can learn just how original this LS6 is....or is not.

Thanks for all the help

Rick

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Hey Rick...Good luck tomorrow! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Thanks X

I hope I've done my homework and don't have to rely on luck. But a little bit never hurts.

I think I may go https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif before tomorrow afternoon

Rick

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Stepahno, I traded Clint another significant super stock copo camaro as a partial trade for the VITAR car he had some tears when it left but he was really happy it was coming to a good home! Sean

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I love that Vitar car...very cool...as long as he got something to fill the hole and play with he'll get over it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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I will be bringing her to scr 8 to kick some butt LOL!!!

Sean https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Sneak it in with Deuce stripes !!

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I finally got the LS6 home and snapped a few quick shots before it started to rain. Not as high res as I would have like. Sorry if I posted too many pictures. Any comments are greatly appreciated

Thanks
Rick

http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/Ex1.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/Ex2.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/Ex3.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/Ex4.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/inter.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/back.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/cluster.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/trunk.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/engin1.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/engin2.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/engin3.jpg

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Congrats she's Gorgeous! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
Dealer added P/S mirror,missing Manifold pull hook.
Looks like someone resprayed the block recently,but still a Beauty.And she's a Rocker Moulding Car too,or did someone add those?
NICE!

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Awesome condition... don't touch a thing! Neat to see what they really looked like when new. Congratulations, it looks like a super find.

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Beautiful car! Those H-70's are tall!
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Very Nice car, Rick...congratulations!

Now you can have a good nights sleep!

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Wow..Congrats.. I like that better than the red one.

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Wow......

More pics! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

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Very Nice car,congratulations.Im all for more pics to.

Bobby Dodson

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Thanks for the positive comments. I think the cars is pretty darn original. One of the top painters in Houston came over this evening and showed me exactly what had been re-touched and what was original paint. The car has about 90% of it's original lacquer paint. I'm just blown away at the condition of the paint.

The block looks better in the pictures, but it may have been painted at some point. Nether of the previous owners, would admit to having painted the block and both told me the engine had never been out of the car. However, they kept every item ever taken off the car. I mean I got a box full of original parts. All bagged and labeled. Rotor, coil, Packard plug wires, spark plugs, every gasket ever taken off the car, wheel well molding screws, dist points cover, dist cap, hood insulation the list goes on and on. The car has a oil service sticker on the drivers door jam dated 5.27.70. May be from it's 1st oil change considering it's a 3C build date. I'll try to post some pictures of the undercarriage tomorrow.

Thanks
Rick https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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This is last three pictures I have until I take some high res.

Thanks
Rick
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/engin4.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/front.jpg
http://katyclassiccars.com/LS6/back1.jpg

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Those big'ol H70s really look good on there.

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Rick,
Outstanding car. Contrats on your purchase. Some very interesting items on the car and great for comparing to. As was said before, now get some sleep! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
Rick

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A gorgeous car..you have to love Forest Green with contrasting interior..:) It looks like a really neat find. Glad to see such an original car that has been preserved well. Now go drive it some..:)

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Rick,

------Im interested in weather the sport wheel was on the car originally. I would have added it as well as I love them but just wonder if the original owner was savvy enough to order it new.
------You have a beautiful LS6 with the purchase of this car. It isnt often you see original untouched plastic inner-fenders. I love that, as well as the yellowed interior pieces, really. Sort of gives the car that original patina. please dont change those out as they are part of the history of this exceptionally well kept car......Bill S