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MACHOTA102 03-21-2005 07:48 PM

1968 SHELBY?
 
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF BALDWIN-MOTION MADE A 1968 GT500 SHELBY MUSTANG? I KNOW SOMEONE SELLING ONE , I NEVER HEARD OF ONE DOES ANYONE KNOW?

whitetop 03-21-2005 09:09 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
I have a Hot Cars article where they did a '69'-70 Mustang. Can't remember if it was a Shelby or not.

12bolt 03-21-2005 09:33 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
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while I am not the know all of Shelby's, I am well versed in them. Also an active Owner and Member Of S.A.A.C. and I cannot rule out that Motion may have toyed with one, but I am willing to bet that it was an independent project if it happened at all. Shelby was on his way out in 1968, He had closed the Doors on Shelby American and FORD was producing the 1968 Shelby themselves using A.O. Smith industries in Livonia Michigan to complete the transformation. But hey, it was the 60's! I personally have never read any publication or even heard rumor of such an animal.

Canucklehead 03-22-2005 01:35 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Correct me if im wrong, but is there only 1 REAL shelby mustang super snake in exsistance?. If so, who built it?, could that be built by motion?. I believe it was a 67

JoeG 03-22-2005 02:35 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
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1967--Shelby American built the Super Snake--- https://www.yenko.net/attachments/129770-Scan0025.jpg
Anyone could have gone to M/P to have work done to whatever level they wanted----

Steve Shauger 03-22-2005 03:14 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Charley owns the one an only. He raced it at SCR8, an awesome piece of muscle car history. Built at Shelby America and modified by the shelby team. Charley are you there??

Belair62 03-22-2005 03:25 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Correction...he kind of soft shoed it down the track...

Mr. T 03-22-2005 03:47 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Thought he raced the Hertz rental.

JoeG 03-22-2005 03:56 AM

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Wow!!!--I knew Charley had a Shelby--Didn't realize it was The Super Stang....One fortunate Cowboy.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/attachments/129794-Scan0026.jpg

12bolt 03-22-2005 04:15 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
You are correct That there is only ONE SUPER SNAKE! SHELBY Built it and Motion had nothing to do with it. (Except gain inspiration possibly) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gifand The Current "Keeper" of the Super Snake is a Forum member/moderator! maybe he could chime in some??

Charley Lillard 03-22-2005 05:07 AM

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Yes I have the Super Snake and they only built one. It was built by Shelby and Motion had nothing to do with it. Yes I had it at last years reunion. I was not going to drag race it but the Deuce Dorks were having so much fun I asked the Clarys to take their trailer back to the hotel and bring back the Shelby. I did make a few passes but I was not soft shoeing it...I am just a crappy drag racer. I ended up driving it back to the hotel....Now I gotta rebuild the carb and take it to SAAC 30. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/129808-10-12-04002.jpg

Mr70 03-22-2005 05:11 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
It showed very well at SCR7.
Now wheredya get that SIGN! http://www.sg-online.net/vb/images/s...adioactive.gif

sYc 03-22-2005 05:14 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Dang that is a good looking car. Thanks for sharing it with us at SCR7. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

JoeG 03-22-2005 05:52 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
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I did make a few passes but I was not soft shoeing it...I am just a crappy drag racer. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/129808-10-12-04002.jpg

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In that car you can be anything you want..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

Charley Lillard 03-22-2005 06:05 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Dave Stienberg built it for me. His web site is Daves Nostalgic signs Buy something from him and maybe I can get my next sign cheaper.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

hvychev 03-22-2005 06:35 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
What most people do not know is that Tom Clary is a closet Shelby Mustang freak! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

12bolt 03-22-2005 05:13 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
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What most people do not know is that Tom Clary is a closet Shelby Mustang freak! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]I have run across more Shelby fans/owners on this site than I would have ever expected! Charley not only has the Super Snake, but he has One of the original (535 produced) 1965 GT350 restored to https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif "Just left the assembly line" Perfection! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif "Dajudge" has what looks like a nice GT350, but I think he is afraid to show it to people...... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Canucklehead 03-22-2005 08:01 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
I knew charlie had a shelby but i did'nt know it was THE shelby. Very nice!!, your a lucky man!

Did you have anything to do with the current repops with Ultimate Performance?

How did you aquire it?

Charley Lillard 03-22-2005 09:24 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
I fellow I know thru the internet sent me pics of it a couple years ago saying he was going to buy it if he ever got his Porsche sold. I asked him if I could buy it if he didn't and he told me to go ahead. Turns out it had been on Ebay twice but had not met reserve. it took awhile but I managed to get it bought. I have nothing to do with the new ones.

tom406 03-22-2005 10:04 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Hey Charley, that's a helluva car. But it just doesn't quite have the LOOK I associate with it. Are you going to change the tires before SAAC 30? Most of the pics of that car are from its 170 mph tire testing session, and on that day it proudly wore WHITEWALLS on its 10-spoke rims. If Marlin can shoe his Deuce properly, why not the Super Snake?

Respectfully (with tongue only partially in cheek)
Tom

Mr70 03-22-2005 10:39 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
It's not easy Shoeing a Shelby wearing these...
http://shoebuy.com/pi/keyst/keyst1474_lg.jpg

DOWOP5 03-23-2005 05:46 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Charley, your collection is amazing. Love that 'Stang. You are a lucky man. Will you adopt me??

Belair62 03-23-2005 07:16 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
12 Bolt...DaJudge ain't scurred ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show.../page/0#103806

12bolt 03-23-2005 08:00 AM

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12 Bolt...DaJudge ain't scurred ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show.../page/0#103806

[/ QUOTE ] His car looks great in pictures. I do not doubt for a minute that it looks great in person. He just will not show the Car as he said he would. Or return messages. He's either Scared or hiding something that the Ford guy would pick up on in person! who knows. I'll address the issue in person when I see him at all of these exciting Chevy events I'll be at this season. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Belair62 03-23-2005 06:49 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
He may be embarrased to own a Ford https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

JoeG 03-23-2005 09:43 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
DaJudge-I have no Shame--I'll take that Gorgeous Pony off your hands-- https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

427TJ 03-24-2005 01:33 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
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the Deuce Dorks

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Chevy454 03-24-2005 05:34 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
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What most people do not know is that Tom Clary is a closet Shelby Mustang freak!

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Yeah, but I finally got dad over that fettish, and we purged our garage of our '66 Shelby a year or two ago...https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

DaJudge 03-24-2005 06:41 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
12bolt My Shelby is not for sale. That is why I did not have you up to look at it, I did not want to waste your time. As far as afraid to show it all can see it at the Ford Nationals at Carlisle in Building Y. It will also be in a magazine as a picture shoot is scheduled in the near future. It has been at two shows last season and at Vargo, where a few members from this site saw it. I have fine tuned it further by adding correct Goodyears and other detail items. There is nothing to hide on that car as it is all numbers matching and it has loads of original paperwork, plus about 250 pictures of the totally rust free body during restoration. It's really hard for me to sell a car that has so much documentation and original.

Xplantdad 03-24-2005 07:07 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Mike,

I think that your car is beautiful...and very https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

12bolt 03-24-2005 10:02 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Dajudge,I knew My Baiting would lure you out!! when people say one thing and do another without letting the other guy know whats up, it makes me wonder just what you are all about. I actually have no Doubts about your car or your Documents on it. It looks great! I just thought that when I met you in person and took time out of my Busy schedule for you, the least you could do is respond to an e-mail or PM. Since you chose not to, I took this avenue to let you know that I do not appreciate your Failure to respond after saying you would. That being Said, the first round of "Cold Water" is on you at the first event we encounter one another at! That will erase any Hard feelings or misunderstandings!! (Real or imagined!!)

hvychev 03-26-2005 03:13 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
huh? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif Am I getting this right? You are mad because the guy won't sell his car? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

12bolt 03-26-2005 06:42 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
No not at all! I was curious as to why he was not responding to me after we had agreed to do so. He is a real good guy, who like the rest of us Caught in Mid life is juggling Kids, Job, wife and then our Passions for Cars. I knew I would draw a response and I did. he contacted me and it is all good. His Car is a top notch example of how a restoration should look upon completion. Chevy,Ford or Mopar, anyone would be happy to have their Beloved auto looking that good and Correct.

gemleeus 03-26-2005 04:45 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
oh I see, for a while there reading this thread i didn't think you knew him personally, but you evidently do. well in that case no harm done

12bolt 03-26-2005 07:10 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
I am not a Cyber stalker/keyboard commando type. I do not start "Hoopla" or agress others for pleasure. I am a Man who is true to his word, and expect the same of others when I extend myself. if all goes as planned, I will be at Raceway Park and look forward to seeing some sYc members in person. It is always great to talk in "Real Time", instead of hours or even Days apart!! on these Forum settings, people of all walks of life can chat. Some wish they had Cars, while others have too many Cars. and the rest fall in between. one thing is certain. The amount of Cars or lack thereof, never changes who you really are. it just dictates how you will be spending your weekend. Happy Easter one and all! Unless of course you are a Muslim and find that statement Politicaly/religiously incorrect.

JoeG 03-27-2005 05:19 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
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This was a '67 GT350 that Motion set-up for street/strip and in the article it mentions setting up GT500'S----So there could be Some Shelbys that were set-up for street/strip action but you would need some sort of documentation of the extent of the mods done by M/P-- https://www.yenko.net/attachments/130995-shelbyjoel.jpg

JoeG 03-27-2005 05:22 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
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GT350 at track--Billy Mitchell-- https://www.yenko.net/attachments/130996-shelbytrack.jpg

AutoInsane 03-29-2005 08:18 PM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
Charley, Kevin Suydam also owns a 427 side oiler and on his web site he says his car is one of 3. Now your car is "the" Super Snake but can you really call it a one off or is it truely one of the 3? Not trying to bust balls just curious on the matter. (when are you going to have your own web site w the collection on it???)

Billy

tom406 03-29-2005 11:15 PM

Re: One Super Snake, but two other "factory" 427's
 
If I may, Charley has THE Mel Burns Ford car which was the first of what were to be a number of 427 Medium Riser equipped GT500's offered primarily through that dealer. But (much like Gibb's ZL-1 order two years later) the ultimate final sticker price of $7500 put it into 427 Cobra land, and out of the reach of most potential buyers.

SAAC has Shelby American invoices showing that two other '67's received 427MR's at Shelby (not selling dealerships or sometime later). Kevin S. would appear to have one of those two cars.

Now about those whitewalls, Charley.......

Charley Lillard 03-30-2005 02:10 AM

Re: 1968 SHELBY?
 
They only built one Super Snake. They supposedly built 3 427 side oiler cars but neither of the others were built as Super Snakes. Mine is a 26K mile car that has been detailed and spot painted over the years but is in pretty good shape. The Super Snake was supposed to be the baddest street car and they were gonna do 50. The three stripes were part of that package. I have not seen any real pics of the other two but neither were done with the three stripes. As for whitewall tires like were on the Super Snake for the Goodyear tire test, does anybody have a nice set of Goodyear Thunderbolts ?


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