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lowmile 03-13-2005 06:00 AM

1970's Z/28 wheels and F60 Wide Oval tires
 
On Ebay I have a VERY nice set of Z/28 wheels and reproduction F60 Firestone wide oval tires. They have about 1000 miles on them. They were powder coated the correct color and NOS caps were added. Ready to bolt on. Will work on SS Chevelle. 950.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4534509787

Mr70 03-13-2005 06:08 AM

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Mark Very Nice.
On the front spoke side,can you tell me what color shade of powder coating that is?
I have a set here I need to have done.
Rick

GeorgeLyons 03-13-2005 11:26 PM

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Not to be critical of these wheels (a good buy for someone) but no powdercoat can duplicate the finish GM used in these Z28 wheels. It is extremely tough to do right, very time consuming and rarely do you see a car with redone wheels that are right. Color can be attained relatively easy, it's the very coarse (like 180 sandpaper) finish that is so difficult. Restoration suppliers sell some.........not even close to right. I just did a set, helped by a friend who hit on a formula a while back and passed it on to me. I got em dead on, but had a hassle for sure. The good news is my NOS spare is right on to them. If you are willing to go the effort, let me know. It can be done.

Belair62 03-13-2005 11:54 PM

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How do these look ?

GeorgeLyons 03-13-2005 11:55 PM

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Dynamite !!!!!!! Nice job, did you redo them ?

Belair62 03-14-2005 12:15 AM

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No I didn't Ken Pascoe did...they look pretty good though...pretty rough surface...

lowmile 03-14-2005 04:40 AM

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These wheels were meant to be driver wheels and the choice to powder coat was made for ease of cleaning and durability. m

MosportGreen66 03-14-2005 04:50 AM

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Mark. I think your pricing is for these wheels and tires are EXTREMELY fair. The NOS center caps alone bring around $700, new tires are aournd that too. The wheels should bring about $300-$350 for nicely restored set with trim rings and lugs. Good Luck!

WILMASBOYL78 03-14-2005 05:14 AM

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Wish I had a Camaro or Chevelle to put these on! Looks like a bargain to me. Get them now before the ebay buyers pump up the price.....

wilma https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

70-SS/RS-L78 03-14-2005 06:52 AM

Re: 1970's Z/28 wheels and F60 Wide Oval tires
 
Do they have the embossed center caps?
Mark L

CamarosRus 03-14-2005 08:54 AM

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George Lyons, The PPG paint formula to correctly refinish 70-74 Z-28 and 70/71 Chevelle SS wheels is DDL32961. This is LAQUER and the formulation contains a SUEDE additive which accounts for the Roughness(G.M. was trying to emulate a CAST LOOK) and DX685 Flatting agent which retards ALL the gloss. As well NO clear coat was used on these wheels.
George, Can you elaborate on the details, paint and process YOU used to replicate the Original Z-28 finish????

Bob G, If you want to further the ORIGINALITY of your wheels, look for ORIGINAL Lugnuts as I show below.....NOT the same part # replacements with SHORTER Crown.....
Chuck S
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Comparison.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Caps/Ring3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Caps/Ring5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...x1stAnd2nd.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...81stDesign.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...92ndDesign.jpg

Belair62 03-14-2005 06:18 PM

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Chuck...I am done looking for hens teeth !

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 03-14-2005 09:22 PM

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nice carpet

GeorgeLyons 03-14-2005 11:03 PM

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Chuck, Chevelle SS wheels are 71-72 in this style, 70' were different style, not this paint process or color, agree ?
As to what I used, the PPG suede paint is not rough enough in my experience, but close. Also, the orig finish was hard and quite durable, seldom ever chipped badly or rusted. A lacquer topcoat would not hold up long term or have any durability. I discovered a suede/coarse like additive you can use in urethane clear with flattener, baked in booth and durable like oem. VEEEEERRRRYYYY difficult to hit in the right combo of clear/reducer/hardener/flattener/suede additive that gives the exact finish we want. Lots of mixing and spray out panels to test, lots of material cost. I did them myself and spent about five hours just mixing and in the booth on a Sunday night (the only time my guys can't throw me out). All I can tell you is ...........I got em lookin like they did in 1970.

70 copo 03-15-2005 01:40 PM

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George,

Chuck is right. The trick is that you need to apply the paint "dry" Kinda like GM did quickly on a moving assembly line. The roughness of the finish was more a product of the quality control process present at GM in the day- or lack there of... . When these wheels got painted they were not looking for a show quility finish.

Phil

lowmile 03-15-2005 06:22 PM

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SOLD! Thanks, Mark

firstgenaddict 03-16-2005 12:29 AM

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nice carpet

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COPO427 03-18-2005 09:59 PM

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I have the formula on my web site http://ca.geocities.com/[email protected]. To get the roughness, you spray the last few coats from a distance and by the time the paint hits the rim, the paint is 1/2 dry which causes the roughness. I know it's not the way the factory did it but it's hard to tell the diff. Also don't forget to mix mix mix the paint so the metallic makes the paint lighter. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif


70 copo 03-18-2005 11:20 PM

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Mark,

You used to have some cool detailed pictures of a 70 COPO on your web site. Are you going to ever get photos of another one posted?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Phil

CamarosRus 03-19-2005 12:16 PM

Re: 1970's Z/28 wheels and F60 Wide Oval tires
 
Marlin, You friends with Martha Stewart???? The NICE CARPET you were "admiring" in my home.....was actually a bath towel spread out on the counter where I took the pics !!!
Sorry it didnt meet your decorating taste !!!!!

Chuck

Steven J 03-19-2005 06:42 PM

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nice bath towel

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 03-21-2005 08:47 PM

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Marlin, You friends with Martha Stewart???? The NICE CARPET you were "admiring" in my home.....was actually a bath towel spread out on the counter where I took the pics !!!
Sorry it didnt meet your decorating taste !!!!!

Chuck

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Sure it was Chuck https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif You don't have to 'fess up, we understand!

Mr70 03-22-2005 12:27 AM

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Marlin needs a Jungle Room...
http://www.peer2all.com/blog/archive...ungle-room.jpg

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 03-22-2005 01:37 AM

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already have one!


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