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1969 Cougar Eliminator SCJ 428
Anyone know anything about these cars. There was a classic car auction today and a restored numbers matching 69 Eliminator was auctioned. It is orange with a black interior. The reserve wasn't met but it is still in the car corral for sale. Anyone know what these things are worth?
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Money wise it depends is it a auto or 4speed is the car in #1 or#2 codition.All these things factor in on the value of any muscle car.I can give you some production figures on these cars.There are two production figures flotting out there for the 69 Eliminator I'm not sure which one is accurate.
TOTAL 1969 Eliminator-2250 or 2411 Out of that total there were 243 Eliminators with the 428CJ&SCJ.I dont have break down for trannys. |
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Theres a guy named Kevin Marti and he has published two books one is on the Mustang and the other is on the Cougar.These two books give very detailed production figures(engine and trany combos and how many with certain options ect.)It also has tech stuff for every motor available in a certain model of Mustang or Cougar.If your interested heres his phone# 623-935-2558 Afew years ago I called him about his books and at the time he was still working on the cougar information,so I'm pretty sure that he's done with it.
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When I was in college, I had a buddy who had a white 67 Cougar. He wrecked it, and bought a green one. I always liked the cars, and ended up buying them after getting out of college. I bought several other 67-70 Cougars, with the intention of building one wicked Cougar. After I was well into the project, I bought a solid 70 Eliminator Boss 302.
Anyway, I bought a 71 Trans Am, lost all interest in the Cougars, and sold all of them in the mid-80s. I still had a bunch of very nice 67-68 Cougar parts. Since then, I got heavy into Pontiac, especially T/As and 70-72 GTOs. In general, I can tell you it's hard to sell Cougar parts. Example: I had a perfect original paint 67 Cougar front clip, complete. I tried to sell it for several years, and finally sold the whole thing, bumpers, fenders, hood, lights bumper, etc. for $500. Had that been a GTO or early Firebird, it would have brought much more money. I haven't been too impressed with the Cougar people I've dealt with. The parts don't bring much money and the owners don't like to spend money. Even the Boss 302 car didn't bring much. The motor was out of the car, and I ended up selling the drivetrain to a Mustang owner. A rare car like a 428 Cougar Eliminator might bring good money now, but I'd be afraid the Cougar stigma would hurt it. I'm just curious, what was the asking price? Thanks, Mike |
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It sounds like a good choose going from cougars to TA's and GTO's.jfkheat has'nt told me what that Eliminator went for on the auction.
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Thanks for the info. I didn't get a chance to talk to the owner yesterday. I don't know anything about these cars so I'm not sure how correct the car is. The reserve wasn't met at $20K. I think he was looking for $25K but I could be wrong. I will post a couple pictures of the car later today.
James |
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I took these pics in July.
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Second one.
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Here are a couple pictures of the car.
James |
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Another
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Last one.
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J thats no Cougar....thats a Cyclone
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I noticed that as I was taking the pictures. What's the story on these cars?
James |
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Probably in the same boat as the Cougars...cool cars though..
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Thats a Cyclone the question is,is it a Spoiler car?So is it a 69 Spoiler with a 428?
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It's hard to say what that car is because it's customized.
Spoilers came in white with blue or red trim. Spoiler IIs had the NASCAR grille. The latter were only available with 351s. |
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Thanks for the info. Sounds like this car is not all it's supposed to be.
James |
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In 69 the spoiler cars in my opinion are better looking than the 70 spoilers.In 69 you could also get a Dale Yarborough Cyclone those cars came with 390's.
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Cale Yarborough Spoilers are the red and white ones. Dan Gurney Spoilers are blue and white. They came with the 351 on up to the 428, but the Spoiler II only had the 351.
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Can you tell anything about this car from the pictures? How many Cyclone Eliminators SCJs were built? According to the owner, it is a numbers matching car. Any idea what the car is worth?
James |
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There were no Cyclone Eliminators. There were Cyclone Spoilers and Cougar Eliminators. About 2000 of each were made. How many SCJs were made? That's something you'd have to ask Marti Auto Works.
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<font color="blue">That Kinda looks like this car I saw at the Hot Rod Reunion. </font>
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<font color="blue">The guy had 2 of them! One with a Boss 429 & the other (I think he said) had a Boss 302! </font>
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Those are the '70 King Cobra and Spoiler II, both stillborn NASCAR streetcars. They are completely different than the '69s we've been talking about, however. I bet the engines in these cars are 429 CJ and Boss 429.
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I have a friend who had a XR7 428 cougar. Bought it from a retired military officer. Beautiful interior. He changed the cam, and put on the police interceptor intake, and that thing just flat flew.
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I would love to find a rust free 390 XR7 with a bad engine. I know where a 428 police interceptor engine is that would slide right in.
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I beleive The yellow King Cobra was found at Holman and Moody's shop. That car is awesome and I believe they are the only two to exist .
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Your right there are only two that exist today the yellow car has a 429SCJ and the other car has a Boss 429.The yellow car was on My Classic Car awhile ago.
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what ever happened to the 2 Boss 429 Cougars built? they were both built for drag racing and i have seen a photo of the "Fast Eddie" Schartman car. i have heard they are both destroyed. any truth to that?
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thats a sweet ride. take a look at this though!
http://www.mlodeent.com/OLDDRAG/PROSTOCK/shartman.htm just picked up a copy of this nice print! |
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Unfortunately the COUGAR was a Luxury Mustang in disguise and never found a plce to fit in. You had to go to a Lincoln/Mercury Dealership to buy one. The Car dealership world was much different back then. Much more tight shirt snobbish folks there who could not be bothered pushing a performance vehicle. They were trained to sell to the Luxury and Comfort crowd. By the time the Cougar came out in 67, FORD was 3 years away from pulling the plug on all Factory racing and High Performance development. The Eliminator was the Coolest Performance Cougar. They had only about 167 with Boss 302 Engines. SCJ 428 Engines have plenty of Torque. But they are pricey to fix when broken. But like the other guys that have already posted said, They just do not have the monster following like other FORD counterparts. Hence the expensive parts and clannish owners. tends to keep anybody from developing interest in them which in turn will be there downfall valuewise. I saw Craig Jackson try to do a segment on the X-R7 as an "Up and Coming Sleeper" car to aquire. it must have been a friends car or maybe even one he picked up because they have never ever hit their potential. almost like the EDSEL......
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One of the Greatest all time Musclecar hunt/finds. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif
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how about supercars super cat http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...6/69Cougar.jpg
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nice work MR70, JOEG, COPO, and Platinum. i love learning new things!
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Just an ad I found yesterday.
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i think that scoop could swallow a 68 hemi dart!
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