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YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 10-29-2004 12:38 AM

Rudy Red Primer
 
One of the many interesting things we noticed on TommyK's new deuce is that it has Rudy Red primer! This is a first for the Yenko Deuce Novas, and was quite a shock to us after we pulled the back seat to remove the broadcast sheet. Normally, Rudy Red primer is found on early cars, which makes this even more unusual. Other 06A cars have the normal black primer, will post a pic when I can.

Mr70 10-29-2004 12:41 AM

Re: Rudy Red Primer
 
I've seen Red Oxide primer on Arlington Tx. built Chevelles.
Besides Willow Run,have you seen it used on anyother plants/cars?

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 10-29-2004 12:58 AM

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I have really only researched the Novas, specifically only those produced at Willow Run, MI. So, I can't really say what other plants may have used. Anyone else? (Sully or Gregg?)

Belair62 10-29-2004 02:47 AM

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What the hell is Rudy Red primer ???

SS427 10-29-2004 05:32 AM

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Leeds Chevelles also used it quite heavily though they did not leave much exposed. The trunk area is where it was mostly visable. The Van Nuys cars also showed a lot in the rear gas tank area.

Belair, in answer to your question, it is a little more lavender/maroon than red oxide primer.

SS427 10-29-2004 05:38 AM

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Looks like this.

Belair62 10-29-2004 05:47 AM

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Never heard it called rudy red !

CopoCrunkus 10-29-2004 07:21 AM

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Krylon still makes a primer called Ruddy Brown Primer - RTA9204

ktownkid 10-29-2004 08:18 AM

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I can't find anything on my car that color. Not below nor above nor inside. Yes.....my car has been repainted, but not everywhere. It has a Jan. 1970 date and it's a Nova.

ktownkid

ktownkid 10-29-2004 08:21 AM

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another

Belair62 10-29-2004 05:49 PM

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OK ruddy makes sense...not Rudy

jg95z28 10-29-2004 07:52 PM

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ktown, was your car originally white? Others can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't believe Ruddy Red was ever used on white cars.

musclecarz 10-29-2004 08:04 PM

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Hey Marlin, Our Matador red Judge has the Ruddy primer on it and was built in Pontiac, In the picture it's hard to see the primer from the paint, Car is original paint

musclecarz 10-29-2004 08:05 PM

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Back seat area

ktownkid 10-29-2004 09:19 PM

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No, my car was never white. It is Gobi Beige with Sandalwood interior, as per the trim tag and I guess it's on the POP.....have not looked. My camera and the sunlight made that photo "wash out". Maybe I just need to dig a little deeper to find the primer, but it's certainly not anywhere inside the car.

Maybe I have a super-rare-non-ruddy-primer-Nova........hehehe....

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CamarosRus 10-30-2004 02:51 AM

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1970 Camaros built at Norwood, OH were primed with the "RED". Los Angeles 1970 Camaros were primed "BLACK"
I'll attach pics of the 5000 mile ORIGINAL Black 1970 Z, which I believe is currently owned by Marty W......
Chuck Sharin

Nova Research Project 10-30-2004 09:39 AM

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ktownkid;

My Jan 1970 Gobi Beige Nova used the red primer. I thought the under side was gray so I bought gray paint. After I scrubbed the underside I saw tons of red. One place to look (might have told you this already) was under in the rear wheels near the quater lip. Take a plastic scub brush and water based degrease to clean it up.

Nova Research Project 10-30-2004 09:44 AM

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The Norwood Camaro color is red while the Willow Run color is almost a brown.

The picture shows the orignal color with the OEM paints Camaro red. Not even close.

Nova Research Project 10-30-2004 09:47 AM

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M,

I have seen Gray, Ruddy Red, and Black. I am not sure if it is realted to the top color or different batches used. Willow Run cars were batched painted at Fisher Body. May be that has something to do with it.

Greg

WILMASBOYL78 10-31-2004 05:24 AM

Re: Ruddy Red Primer
 
My 70 L78 Cranberry Red Nova has the ruddy red primer. Car was restored but original photos show the underside with that color. This is also a Canadian delivered car if that makes a difference. Built late dec/69.

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YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 11-01-2004 05:17 PM

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Cool info, thanks https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

olredalert 11-01-2004 06:17 PM

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-------Use of a dark primer with dark colors and a light primer with light colors promoted less use of the final color because coverage was easier. Hence, lower final cost. Bean-counters at thier best............Bill S

Nova Research Project 11-02-2004 02:41 AM

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olredalert;

I see your point. It is confusing since I have seen a Ruddy Red Primer used on light cars and a dark cars.

Greg

olredalert 11-02-2004 06:23 AM

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Greg,

-------There were probably times when necessity dictated that the first choice wasnt used. The plant stopped for nothing short of cataclismic disaster..........Bill S

JoeG 11-02-2004 06:29 AM

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They used a dab of that dark ruddy primer to stick the back of my buildsheet to the top of my gas tank---

Verne_Frantz 11-02-2004 04:47 PM

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Bill,
I am by no means versed in how those choices were made in the later '60s, but from what I've researched through the early sixties, there was no distinction what-so-ever between primer choice and final top coat color. The plants simply had one batch they used for everything until a new batch came in and they switched. To keep light with light and dark with dark, they'd have to have two primer lines, then separate the cars to each line. I'd think that would be too much work.
IF there's one guy I know who could answer this most accurately, it would John Hinckley over on CRG. He was there.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Verne
PS: Or you might even try asking MoParts Dad, who has addressed many of those details from my queries on my '63 Impala anniversary gold thread. Not surehe worked in the Camaro or Nova plants though....................Mo?

olredalert 11-02-2004 08:23 PM

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---------Yes, Verne.......I should have had a question mark in my original post as my remark was only a guess. To me it sounded plausible, especially after so many guys here piped up that thier dark colored cars had dark primer and vis-a-versa!
-------You are right about John H as well. I live quite near him and we have similar Corvette history. He is one of the good guys!.............Bill S


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