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427TJ 08-11-2004 03:47 AM

Coker redline care
 
I'm having a hard time making my Coker F70 belted redlines shine. They seem to have a gray-ish look to them. I use (lightly) a dash of Comet on a soft brush with water to scrub the sidewalls and then I usually apply Armor All* with a clean rag. The Armor All works great on other tires and leaves a nice show shine but not on the Cokers. Anyone have a better method of applying a nice shine to Cokers? Thanks in advance.

*This is the ONLY use I have for Armor All.

Supercar_Kid 08-11-2004 04:09 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
A little Wesley's Bleche-White and a stiff bristled brush...then finish 'em off with some Lexol Vinylex. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Belair62 08-11-2004 05:28 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Are you talking about the "waxy" substance that seems to build up that is a total pain in the ass to remove permanently ???

427TJ 08-11-2004 05:38 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Hey Kid--can I get the Lexol at a car parts place? I saw it available online but there's a show this weekend I'm taking my Camaro to. Oh, and I assume the Wesley's won't harm the red stripe?

Belair--yes, that "waxy" stuff is why I described my tires as turning gray after several weeks. I scrub them and work them with Armor All to subdue it then it slowly comes back. It wouldn't bother me so much if the tires were less expensive!

Mr70 08-11-2004 05:42 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
[ QUOTE ]
Are you talking about the "waxy" substance that seems to build up that is a total pain in the ass to remove permanently ???

[/ QUOTE ]
I believe in the industry,they call that BAIN.

Belair62 08-11-2004 06:00 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif...427 I have used lacquer thinner and the crap still comes back...I thought it was mold release stuff but it just keeps coming back...

Supercar_Kid 08-11-2004 06:20 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Wesley's Bleche White is available at any auto parts store, the Vinylex is a little more "specialty" so you may need to order it online. Bleche White will not harm any tire and will make those redlines pop.

tom406 08-11-2004 08:45 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Bleche White (or equivalent) is key for any tire detail. The same stuff that makes whitewalls (or redline/goldline/blueline) all murky and dark makes a blackwall brown and dingy. We find that exposure to sunlight (UV?) seems to leech it out of the sidewall. Use the Bleche White, rinse, then apply your favorite tire dressing after they've dried off. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Seattle Sam 08-11-2004 08:59 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
DOES the Bleche White take the red out of the redline?

Thanks,
-Sam https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

hvychev 08-11-2004 09:05 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
No if anything it makes it brighter. I have been using it for about the last 8 years.

KLONECO 08-11-2004 09:21 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
JUST WASH !! no goo! road grime comes off with bleche white! forget that shiny stuff! all natural look is the best!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

MosportGreen66 08-11-2004 05:37 PM

Re: Coker redline care
 
The best product to use on W-W/R-L/G-L is called
Final Klean (yes spelled with a K). The colored line on tires is actually painted rubber so if you guys continue to use thinner it will eventually break the paint down until you have black walls. You can get Final Klean at any hardware store.

Supercar_Kid 08-11-2004 06:40 PM

Re: Coker redline care
 
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The colored line on tires is actually painted rubber so if you guys continue to use thinner it will eventually break the paint down until you have black walls.

[/ QUOTE ] Not true at all...the colored line, be it red, white, blue, gold whetever, as well as any white letters on tires are actually a piece of rubber molded in color that has been vulcanized right into the tire's side wall, beneath the top layer of black rubber. Then a machine grinds the top layer of rubber off until a red line or white letters, whatever the case may be, are exposed on the face of the tire. This is why you'll see white lettered tires that have been curbed badly, exposing the white strip that runs across the whole face of the tire. You can also scrub redline or white lettered tires with Bleche-White until you're blue in the face, and you'll never dull them, fade them, or wear them off at all. Bleche-White actually softens the rubber a bit and allows you to scub the dirt free that's become stuck in it's pores. It works equally well on repro tires and rubber products of all kinds, but especially on vintage stuff that's begun to develop that hard skin on the outside thats especially tough to bring back. I'm tellin' ya, try some Wesley's Bleche White and a stiff bristled brush or even 00 steel wool on your grungy looking boots, you won't believe the results.

LVCamaro 08-11-2004 06:46 PM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Erik...I didn't know you were such a domestic diva https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Supercar_Kid 08-11-2004 07:08 PM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Pipe down you homeowner! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

MosportGreen66 08-13-2004 02:15 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
The colored line on tires is actually painted rubber so if you guys continue to use thinner it will eventually break the paint down until you have black walls.

[/ QUOTE ] Not true at all...the colored line, be it red, white, blue, gold whetever, as well as any white letters on tires are actually a piece of rubber molded in color that has been vulcanized right into the tire's side wall, beneath the top layer of black rubber. Then a machine grinds the top layer of rubber off until a red line or white letters, whatever the case may be, are exposed on the face of the tire. This is why you'll see white lettered tires that have been curbed badly, exposing the white strip that runs across the whole face of the tire. You can also scrub redline or white lettered tires with Bleche-White until you're blue in the face, and you'll never dull them, fade them, or wear them off at all. Bleche-White actually softens the rubber a bit and allows you to scub the dirt free that's become stuck in it's pores. It works equally well on repro tires and rubber products of all kinds, but especially on vintage stuff that's begun to develop that hard skin on the outside thats especially tough to bring back. I'm tellin' ya, try some Wesley's Bleche White and a stiff bristled brush or even 00 steel wool on your grungy looking boots, you won't believe the results.

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OK so I stand corrected... but explain why when using thinner to clean WW tires there is white paint on the rag when finished?

427TJ 08-13-2004 03:24 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
I worked over my redlines with the Bleche White and they look great. It took two attempts--apply, scrub, rinse, dry, repeat. During both rinses alot of brown crap could be seen in the water coming off the tires--road grime or some chemical in the tire? Anyway, I'm going to repeat the process one more time before the car show this weekend just to get them looking their best. Oh, and yes, the redlines really do stand out now, especially in sunlight.

Thanks for the tip Erik! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

camarojoe 08-13-2004 03:33 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
[ QUOTE ]


OK so I stand corrected... but explain why when using thinner to clean WW tires there is white paint on the rag when finished?

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Thats easy, because youre softening the rubber and removing a slight bit of the colored material along with the grime. You're not going to ever remove it all though, as it is a part of the tire as stated above... if you rub a solvent soaked rag on a blackwall tire it will leave the rag with black on it too...that doesn't mean you're at risk of rubbing through to the air inside. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

Unreal 08-14-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Well,maybe if you rubbed long enough. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Denis 08-15-2004 09:34 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Would that Bleche White (what kind of name is that anyways?) work on red vinyl interiors?

Seattle Sam 08-15-2004 09:41 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Hey Bill those tires look nice! Oh yeah so does the rest of your car. Nice to meet you today, see you down the road! Budnate was looking to meet you, he just missed you by about five minutes.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif -Sam

JoeG 08-15-2004 09:51 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
I guess you could if you wanted to change your red vinyl int. to pink---------actually pretty stong stuff--made for heavy rubber items---tires--mats----

427TJ 08-15-2004 10:41 PM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Sam, it was a pleasure to meet you and your wife, as well as a few of the PNWCC guys at the Chevy show yesterday. Your '67 RS/SS 350 convert is a real beauty and you need to send Belair some photos to post in the Member's Rides section. I could look at that car all day long, it's that nice. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

427TJ 08-15-2004 11:00 PM

Re: Coker redline care
 
Denis, I think Wesley's Bleche White was developed back in the days of wide-whitewall tires. Don't know why they would spell it "Bleche" though--perhaps the word "bleach" was already copyrighted by another company, maybe Clorox? But I digress... Bleche White is fairly caustic stuff and the product label indicates that it's only use is for tire care. It also cautions not to let it contact "magnesium or aluminum wheels, painted or glass surfaces, eyewear, fabric and non-rubber items. Permanent damgage can occur." Sounds like it could eat vinyl seat covers. I can attest that it works wonders on tires though.

By the way, your Deepwater '67 Z is breathtaking. I looked it over at the Chevy show yesterday and I might have drooled on the fender--sorry. You also need to send pix to Belair. Oh, and your "Granny's car" '67 RS/SS 350 is a real time capsule. Don't change a thing. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

NCGuy68 08-16-2004 06:28 AM

Re: Coker redline care
 
I've been using Wesley's Bleche White on tires for years. Nothing works better that I've ever seen. Works on red line, white letter, white wall, etc. Spray it on and use a soft brush to scrub it in. Rinse and your done.

As always, follow the directions on the bottle and use common sense.


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