11D COPO Chevelle???
 

Would a 1969 Chevelle (Baltimore) with an 11D build date fit the timeframe for a COPO Chevelle?

The VIN is late enough to correspond with the build date, but I don't really know what the accepted timeframe is.

Any input is appreciated. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Blair

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Here's the link to the auction. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...%3AIT&rd=1

He e-mailed me the motor stamping: 19B326463 T0324MP

Also he provided the cowl tag info:

ST 69 13637 BAL 161444 BDY
TR 795 65 E PNT
11D B L 074899

Let the games begin https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gifhttps://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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How about a rear end stamping........

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The earliest COPO and Yenko Chevelles that I know of are early February. A late March engine wouldn't be original to the car but a lot of these engines broke and were replaced over the years. If it is real, fine. If not it could make one nice clone. If it is a real SS car, it would be worth doing a restoration. The KQ rearend would be another good clue. 4:10 rearends in SS396 cars were coded KK.

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It's always a laugh reading ebay feedbacks of people with minus (-) numbers. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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The rear end is not correct https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Just a quick heads-up on this car...

After several failed attempts on Ebay, the owner is now shopping this car around as a "matching numbers" COPO Chevelle, complete with original KQ rear, and possibly a new trim tag...according to those looking at the car last year, it was a 396 car with a KK rear with a '70 454 in it and an 11D build date. There's a LOT more to this story than I care to get into, but if you're bored, here's some more info:

Team Chevelle thread 1 - Team Chevelle Thread 2

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Changing the trim tag to a more "attractive" date will do nothing for the VIN range of the car since there is a range on dates there as well...BKH

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Just a quick heads-up on this car...

After several failed attempts on Ebay, the owner is now shopping this car around as a "matching numbers" COPO Chevelle, complete with original KQ rear, and possibly a new trim tag...according to those looking at the car last year, it was a 396 car with a KK rear with a '70 454 in it and an 11D build date. There's a LOT more to this story than I care to get into, but if you're bored, here's some more info:

Team Chevelle thread 1 - Team Chevelle Thread 2

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This one should be on the best seller's list. It's a great read and I suggest that anyone who wants a great laugh... should read it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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You're right on BKH, but some how this character forgot that little detail! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Our 396 Chevelle at B345383 is about 19,000 after this car but was shipped February 7. Sounds like someone stamped the block without understanding the relationship of production numbers to dates. Buyer beware. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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This car is listed on Ebay again. This time he says: "So this car is an original COPO 427 Chevelle, and in fact it's one of the earliest ones made."
James

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...;category=6164

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Yep and if you read further it now has a Build Sheet. Or should I say one can by obtained.

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A real bunch of horse sh#*.Can not accept the truth that the car is not a COPO and is trying to "come" up with documention. Even going as far as making up stories about vin numbers being available. A bad liar at best.

Albert

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If it was me and I knew it was absolutley real as he seems to think...I would wait for the paperwork from Oz...

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If it was you,we would have shut you up months ago... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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He doesn't think it's real. He was told about it having a 454 in it when it was inspected before. He is just trying to scam someone by making this crap up. And where is this supposed guy with the records ?...Not even good Fairy tales

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Jeeeeeez does this guy not get it? absolute scam,, https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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Sounds like he's trying to justify his scam

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All of this rehash is getting old. If it's a real COPO than haul it off to Barret-Jackson and put it on the blocks!!!!!!!!

Otherwise, let's call a spade a spade. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

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Nicely Said!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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This guy just won't give up. Here is the latest info that he added to the auction.
James

"Well I am back from overseas, and I was able to talk with Greg Long at D.P.E. (Durability Plus Engines), and yes he said he will authenticate this car, and has verified in writing that the VIN is on the list. He believes off hand that this was the either the 12,13, or 14th COPO made, and probably was a factory prototype prior to being sold, although that's a guess. To date though this is the earliest COPO 427 Chevelle found, we don't know if the others still exist. Serious bidders may call him as he has given me permission to post his number 260-665-8877. Also he will be able to help the successful bidder to refit the car to it's original state, and parts you have to replace will at least pay for a good percentage of the refit. The painting of the car back to gold and the bench seat and trim conversion will probably cost the most. But it's a worth while investment for a guy who wants to store and rarely drive this highly sought after collectable.

THere have been MANY people who have asked for his number to authenticate their cars, please be patient and nice to him, as honestly I don't think there is a lot of money into this process considering the time that has to be spent locating the corresponding records amongst the stacks of paperwork. Most of the cars have been authenticated so theres no real advantage to having all the files organized for the few that haven't from a business perspective. Understandably some of the other guys who do this are expert hobbiest, and do it for the love of the cars, Greg is a business man, and time is money so please be aware of this if you ask him to help you. Thanks for that"

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Please tell me someone has talked to Greg .....I can't wait to hear how he authenticates....

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Well you know some of the Chevelle Tech boys have contacted Greg and they have been very bad about getting back to everyone. I have read all the threads, sounds like a bunch of negative people who don't know anything, and are willing to commit to slanderous tyrades before all the evidence is in, so maybe some of you should just back off to see this thing to conclusion.

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I will give Greg a call today. Will post what he has to say.

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676767..Please fill out your profile.

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676767..Your guy Greg at DPE will sell you a protecto plate for 475.00, a trim tag for 250.00 has a 40K Italian broaching machine to duplicate orig broach marks...He will do all this for money but does not have the time to unveil the Holy Grail of GM paperwork ? Don't you think that GM paperwork would make alot more money than a machine shop would ? I'll take swampland for 200.00 please.

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Yeah Bain, fill it out.

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I don't know, have you used his services?

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I have called Greg all day. Get either a busy signal or an answering machine. Has anyone talked to him?

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I've talked to Greg @DPE, and he had nothing on our COPO cars...but he did reinforce the fact that he could make me a POP, could stamp or alter trim tags, and could recreate the broach marks and restamp the numbers on a block. When I specifically asked about the original GM paperwork, he said he'd have to give me a number of someone for me to contact... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Mr. Fix-It----

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NOw Now aren't you forgetting that you were quite an irritating person on the phone, and that I just didn't feel like talking to you other than foster your automotive needs with real business! I pass you off to those who could get you the GM paperwork on your car, Bain is right you are a jerk

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Maybe BAIN could fill in your profile?----------

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Would be nice if one of them would https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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I think this is my first post on this subject here and I think I only posted once over on TC. Man, this just goes on and on and on https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

I think I'll put in a bid for the movie rights https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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Don, a sense of humor https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif!, listen, just between me and you I ve seen how things work around here and I would check that humor thing if I were you, the forum police are whatching and it's a punishable offense around here, but you didn't hear it from me https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif.

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I too have not posted on either site regarding this subject. It is obvious no one on either site is interested and the best way to make this and any other senseless threads go away is to not feed them. Scammers thrive on this stuff and the more we talk about it, the more they keep it going and also the more publicity they get which unfortunately, usually sells the car even after all was said.

Just an opinion. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif