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WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
LOOKING FOR A CAR DETECTIVE THAT CAN FIND OUT EVERYTHING ABOUT THE 68 CAMARO I HAVE ON EBAY.
I HAVE ABOUT 6 DOCUMENTS FOR THE CAR THAT I WOULD HAVE TO FAX YOU BECAUSE THEY DON'T SHOW UP WELL WITH PHOTOS. SEND ME A PRIVATE MASSAGE WITH YOUR CONTACT INFO( WILL PAY WHATEVER.IF YOUR IN FLORIDA I WILL FLY THERE AND LET YOU INSPECT THE CAR BUT I NEED ATLEAST 2 DAYS NOTICE. THANKS |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
I sent you a PM.
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I sent you a PM. [/ QUOTE ] THANKS I WILL CALL YOU TONIGHT AROULD 9PM MY TIME , I BELIVE 7PM YOURS, IS THAT OK ? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
You couldn't have a better person (Charley Lillard) trying to help you. Also the ethical thing would not be selling the car on ebay until the real facts are discovered, unless you disclose the uncertainty to the bidders so they are honestly informed. My .02.
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You couldn't have a better person (Charley Lillard) trying to help you. Also the ethical thing would not be selling the car on ebay until the real facts are discovered, unless you disclose the uncertainty to the bidders so they are honestly informed. My .02. [/ QUOTE ] I HAD A DEALERSHIP OWNER IN FL , GO THROUGH THE PAPERWORK AND HE SAID IT WAS A 68 COPO CAMARO FROM CA, THEN HE TRIED BEATING ME UP BECAUSE THE ENGINE WAS MODIFIED, ALSO GOT THE SAME INFO ON THE CAR FROM MANY PEOPLE WHEN SHOWN MY PAPERWORK IN DAYTONA AT THE TURKEY ROD RUN THIS NOVEMBER, MY DOUBTS CAME FROM READING SOME OF THE BULL ON THIS SITE AND ALSO THE FACT THAT GOERGE STAUFER(STAUFER CLASSICS) RAN THE VIN #'S THROUGH A FRIEND AND CAME BACKE SAYING THAT THE CAR CAME FROM DANA, SO IM WONDERING WHY THE GUYS ON THIS FORUM CAN'T COME UP WITH INFO AND IF THEY HAVE WHY ARE THEY HOLDING THAT INFO BACK FROM THE FORUM |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
What info are you referring to? If you sent good pictures of the documentation to people on this site, some of them can definitely help determine if the documentation is legit or not. But see what Charley can do to help you out.
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
I just had a conversation with Tim, the owner of the Car. He seems like a decent guy and really does want to figure out exactly what he has. He is in Wisconsin and the car and paperwork are in Florida. He had gone back there and took the protecto plate pic but didn't realize it was too small to read. Until he can get back there he can't provide any paperwork. It might be a Month from now. He doesn't know much about COPO's so the things that ring wrong to us don't mean a thing to him. It might be a Dana car or it might be something made up but if somebody was making a fake car I don't think they would build it like they did. He will let me know when he gets to the paperwork so in the mean time can we cut him some slack please. He does want to sell the car but I told him the only way to get any Supercar type money out of it is to provide the paperwork. I am not trying to beat anybody to the car. If someone wants to offer him Money for the car they might consider it contingent on the paperwork. It would be neat if it was real. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/Charley.gif
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
Charley never sent me his number in a PM
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I just had a conversation with Tim, the owner of the Car. He seems like a decent guy and really does want to figure out exactly what he has. He is in Wisconsin and the car and paperwork are in Florida. He had gone back there and took the protecto plate pic but didn't realize it was too small to read. Until he can get back there he can't provide any paperwork. It might be a Month from now. He doesn't know much about COPO's so the things that ring wrong to us don't mean a thing to him. It might be a Dana car or it might be something made up but if somebody was making a fake car I don't think they would build it like they did. He will let me know when he gets to the paperwork so in the mean time can we cut him some slack please. He does want to sell the car but I told him the only way to get any Supercar type money out of it is to provide the paperwork. I am not trying to beat anybody to the car. If someone wants to offer him Money for the car they might consider it contingent on the paperwork. It would be neat if it was real. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/Charley.gif [/ QUOTE ] again thanks charly https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
So is the car still for sale on Ebay or are you going to wait until you can check the documentation again? I would think that you would stop the auction until you can have someone knowledgable check the documentation. If you let the auction go, somebody will have the legal right to the car at the price it ends at.
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
didnt Kurt S state here that he checked and the car was not real my bet is he is right
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
I think Kurts statment was in regards to it being a 427 Copo. That doesn't mean it can't be a Dana converted car.
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
Hope to have another Supercar found. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif Good luck dana man. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
Charley I agree with you that the car most likely is a dana car just not a copo 427 but who knows
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
OK folks, its a new year and lets see what <font color="blue"> WE CAN </font> find out about this car. Total of 4 different threads were going dealing with the same car so I decided to lock the others and keep this one open with dana man requests for help.
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
In my opinion this site can only help you, not hurt you. I'm pretty sure you bought the car at FAR below SUPERCAR prices. Assuming that, if the car is not real then you have a neat car that is probably fun and worth what you paid and you gained valueable knowledge about these cars, no money lost. Assuming on the other hand, this site and the many great people here help you document a car that is far more valueable than you anticipated then everybody wins - you have a valueable car, the buyer gets a valueable car, the car community gets another great car, the restorers get business from restoring the car, and it is one more great car that someone will own and share. That is what it's about. Alot of the SUPERCARS change hands from time to time. So multiple people get joy over owning the same car. I honestly hope it turns out to be what you say the car is.
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OK folks, its a new year and lets see what <font color="blue"> WE CAN </font> find out about this car. Total of 4 different threads were going dealing with the same car so I decided to lock the others and keep this one open with dana man requests for help. [/ QUOTE ] THANKS GUYS https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
I don't even have a real feel for what it is but from my conversation with Dana-Man I don't think he has made this stuff up to try and scam anybody. That does not mean that the paperwork he was given with the car is real. We just gotta wait and see.....But then again I tend to trust most of you Jerks out there and look where that gets me... wearing a Monkey Face in a POS Belair..
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
Belair I think he is talking about that awseome car with the Ronald McDonald twins in the car after eating a gut burger. I'm not sure so maybe you should repost the picture to find out.
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Charley...look closely...it's not a monkey but I thinks its an orangutan...left turn Clyde https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
Awesome!!
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
Charley is a good choice to help decipher the paperwork and help with truly identifing what this car really is.
...I hope this turns out to be something special for all those involved..could you fax the information to me? I would also like to see it. ... at [email protected] ....Good Luck https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
I don't think there are any documented 69 427 COPO Camaros built in CA found yet never mind a 68
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
According to the COPO.com website there is a single 69 COPO Camaro from LA. ====> L531088 Clippenger Chevrolet Covina, CA, Burnished Brown, Chip G
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Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
Not to step on toes here but what about this link that was posted a few days ago about this car? It is the very same car on ebay and seems to have been built up.
The asking price on the website was only $18,555/offer plus the dealer is in Wisconsin. Looks like it was sold there as well. If I was a bidder on ebay with a $30K plus bid on this car and found this link I would be very, very unhappy. You make the call. http://www.cantdrive55.net/_68_camaro.html Rick H |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
What the guy paid for the car is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if he paid a dollar or a hundred thousand, it's worth what someone will pay.
If I were high bidder at $30k, and it turned out to be a Dana converted car, I'd be real happy, regardless of what he paid. |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
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What the guy paid for the car is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if he paid a dollar or a hundred thousand, it's worth what someone will pay. If I were high bidder at $30k, and it turned out to be a Dana converted car, I'd be real happy, regardless of what he paid. [/ QUOTE ] I agree 100%. There is nothing wrong with buying a car and selling it for more than you paid. And as stated, if it does turn out to be a documented Dana car, the only one who should be upset is the dealer who sold it for 18K. If it turns out to be a put-together car, well then thats a different story all together... I for one am anxiously awaiting the outcome of this mystery paperwork saga. |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
It's aftermarket AC so that has no meaning regarding the originality.
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It's aftermarket AC so that has no meaning regarding the originality. [/ QUOTE ] Is there not a factory A/C control in the dashboard? I could be mistaken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif Sam |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
I was just giving my opinion on this car and like I said if I was the high bidder and found a link with the same car for sale at a third of what it is now I would be very cautious.
It would have been a lot less trouble and naming calling if the seller had done his homework before he started this mess! Why not call the dealer where it originally came from? Has anybody done that? It seems strange that the dealer who deals in muscle cars wouldn't know it was a COPO. Rick H. |
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[ QUOTE ] It's aftermarket AC so that has no meaning regarding the originality. [/ QUOTE ] Is there not a factory A/C control in the dashboard? I could be mistaken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif Sam [/ QUOTE ] THE CAR HAS AFTRMKT VINTAGE AIR.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif THE CAR ALSO HAS A STAMP ON THE WINDOW FOR ASTRO VENT IF THAT MEANS ANYTHING. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif |
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I was just giving my opinion on this car and like I said if I was the high bidder and found a link with the same car for sale at a third of what it is now I would be very cautious. It would have been a lot less trouble and naming calling if the seller had done his homework before he started this mess! Why not call the dealer where it originally came from? Has anybody done that? It seems strange that the dealer who deals in muscle cars wouldn't know it was a COPO. Rick H. [/ QUOTE ] YOU SURE TALK ALOT FOR NOT KNOWING ME OR THE CAR DON'T YOU THINK. I SELL OVER 20 PRO STREET CARS A YEAR AND I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A SUCH THING AS A SUPERCAR , I MUST BE AN IDIOT ALSO. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
No need to continue this anymore. Do we? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif
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[ QUOTE ] You couldn't have a better person (Charley Lillard) trying to help you. Also the ethical thing would not be selling the car on ebay until the real facts are discovered, unless you disclose the uncertainty to the bidders so they are honestly informed. My .02. [/ QUOTE ] I HAVE RIVISED MY AUCTION TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY , PLESE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THING. THE CAR WILL STAY ON EBAY BECAUSE IT'S GOTTA GO, IT'S BEEN A PAIN IN MY A$$ I HAD A DEALERSHIP OWNER IN FL , GO THROUGH THE PAPERWORK AND HE SAID IT WAS A 68 COPO CAMARO FROM CA, THEN HE TRIED BEATING ME UP BECAUSE THE ENGINE WAS MODIFIED, ALSO GOT THE SAME INFO ON THE CAR FROM MANY PEOPLE WHEN SHOWN MY PAPERWORK IN DAYTONA AT THE TURKEY ROD RUN THIS NOVEMBER, MY DOUBTS CAME FROM READING SOME OF THE BULL ON THIS SITE AND ALSO THE FACT THAT GOERGE STAUFER(STAUFER CLASSICS) RAN THE VIN #'S THROUGH A FRIEND AND CAME BACKE SAYING THAT THE CAR CAME FROM DANA, SO IM WONDERING WHY THE GUYS ON THIS FORUM CAN'T COME UP WITH INFO AND IF THEY HAVE WHY ARE THEY HOLDING THAT INFO BACK FROM THE FORUM [/ QUOTE ] |
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No need to continue this anymore. Do we? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif [/ QUOTE ] WELL THANKS FOR YOU HELP, I SHOULD OF TALKED TO YOU FIRST https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
Dana Man... Nobody here has any helpful info because they have nothing to go on. Until we see the car or paperwork there is really nothing we can do.
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Dana Man... Nobody here has any helpful info because they have nothing to go on. Until we see the car or paperwork there is really nothing we can do. [/ QUOTE ] THEN WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE STILL TALKING SO MUCH https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif I WILL MEAT ANYONE ANYTIME IN FL TO LOOK AT THE CAR , IF IT'S NOT 100% AS I HAVE DISCRIBED THE TICKET AND TIME IS ON ME , PLUS I WILL PAY FOR THE INFO. BECAUSE REGARDLESS WHETHER I FLY BACK TO FLORIDA AND SEND YOU THE PAPERWORK AND YOU CONFERM IT TO BE DANA PAPERWORK THERE GOING TO SAY DOES IT GO TO THE CAR, LETS SEE THE CAR ( SO COME SEE THE CAR )AND LETS PUT ALL THE https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif ASIDE |
Re: WANTED ( CAR DETECTIVE)ON 68 CAMARO
The paperwork will have the cars serial # on it. If the paperwork appears real then you can tie it to the car by the serial # on the car. They are throwing BS at you because they have yet to see any paperwork. Please just let us keep this calm until there is something to see.
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