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Continue the discussion here if you want.

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I'd like to know if you could get a RAIV GTO with a bench seat? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]

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Don't know why you couldn't, sure would make it nicer on a date with a hot chic.

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Yes you could I know of an Atoll Blue RA IV car in the midwest that has a bench seat it is on the paperwork. They have a different shifter that is curved to go around the bench seat. I have also seen column shift Judges and GTO's as well

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My apologizes to the forum for not listing the source of the quote and stating that it was an excerpt.

It's was intended for Joe with only showing a relevance toward the shipping issue.

Now I feel like I'm back in grade doing a report, and that old hag teacher is on my case.

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My apologizes to the forum for not listing the source of the quote and stating that it was an excerpt.

It's was intended for Joe with only showing a relevance toward the shipping issue.

Now I feel like I'm back in grade doing a report, and that old hag teacher is on my case.

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Steve,

You may want to go back and proof read your post before that "old hag teacher" sees it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif[/img]

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By the way, guysÖ

Did we break the WORLD RECORD for ìthe most Pontiac posts, in a single thread, on a Chevy forumî ? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]

Rita [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img]

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"I accepted more cars right out of Pontiacís engineering department than anyone else. The cars would come off the assembly line and weíd pick them right up."

Isnt this a contradiction?
He is saying he got cars straight from the engineering dept. Then says he got them off the assembly line.
I would assume that the engineering cars came off the line then went to engineering then to Knafels?
Im just curious.

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Heck, I think the record was broken for the most Chevy posts on a Chevy message board.[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]
James

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I was only looking at that in my thoughts of whether to pursue the shipping angle that Joe suggested. Whatever else you want to conclude from it, have at it.

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Roger, (resto4u)

Just wondering if you were able to get any more info on the RA IV GTO or possibly buy the car? There have been so many posts I might have missed the final outcome, but was curious.

Blair

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How about we all go over to a Pontiac board and start a post on Chevy Supercars....fair is fair... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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Good idea Fred, but, I think it might get shut down a lot faster than it would get up to 19 pages. As for all those who have emailed asking ME to get Mrs BillyBobcat to enlarge the picture, I say do it yourself. I know it's nice to now have two Mrs posting, but, now we REALLY have to keep it clean.

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Just for kicks, I drove and punished my buddies RA V 1969 GTO. M22 4:56.1. Yes it was an over the counter deal, but that is the sweetest sounding stock Pontiac I have ever been around. And I have been around a few stock RA IV...BKH [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

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Believe it or not, the RAV program was a failure because the motors were not as good as the RA IV. The tunnel port heads were a great concept, albeit one ripped off from Ford, but, according to sources who were there, they couldn't get them to work as well as the IV heads on the 400 C.I. block. Now, do a little work on them, and, bolt them onto a bigger cube engine, and, look out. From everything I've heard, however, the "stock" RAIV would outperform the stock RAV. Now we have something to keep our new Pontiac friends around to discuss. Any opinions? LOL

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Sixties,
My Team Shelby 68 TA Mustang has the one year only 302 Tunnel Port engine, the engine made a lot of HP but it only worked really well at high RPM due to the volume of fuel/air mixture coming through the huge ports. That created the problem which caused the engines to keep exploding, the high RPM caused all the oil to be in the top of the engine and the drains in the heads were not large enough to get it back to the pan before they grenaded. Ford had built the TA engines on the assembly line to prove to the public how good their manufacturing was, because of that they dictated to Shelby that the team was not allowed to alter or change the engines to correct the problem. Had it not been for the politics Ford would have made a better showing with the tunnel port design against Chevrolet, but I dont believe they could have took the championship away from the 302 Z engine, even with the problem corrected. The huge intake ports were just too much for the amount of cubic inch of the 302. Fords 427 Tunnel Port worked much better with the TP design, as it probebly would have worked better for Pontiac with more cubic inch.
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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Yes I own a 69 GTO Judge with RAIV, bench seat, and column shift turbo 400. Car is also Starlight Black.

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You got some pics of that starlight Judge? That sounds sweet and I'd like to see it.

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The car is in many pieces at the present time awaiting a frame off restoration. Hope to start on it maybe next fall if finances allow it. A guy had one at the GTO Nats this summer( RAIV Judge, 4 speed, Starlight Black ) and it certainly commanded everyones attention. Hoping to make mine as nice but it will take me a while to do one that good. It aint going anywhere though. Jim

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All I know about the RA V in my friends Goat is that the motor was built by the Glasgo's "sp". They are real Pontiac motor people. It was strong...BKH

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Yes they are!! I'd be curious what the displacement is. Was it a solid lifter cam? Dd it feel like a low end torque, or, high winding [for a Pontiac] motor?

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High winding Pontiac = parts on street

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supergas, I am still working on the owner to sell. He drag raced the car in the 80's at union grove,cordova,byron and a strip out by cedar falls iowa where he used to live. He said it would win against just about anything except a SD or light weight catalina. He has had the car since it was 3 yrs. old. You can't blame a guy for being hesitant about selling something owned that long, and the memories. And thank you to all who have made this the longest post i have ever started. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img] Roger

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No Roger - thank you - for starting this post and bringing all these Pontiac guys over here... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]...I wonder if during this pontiac thread if this site had the largest increase in new member sign up in a single week.....we all got an education - that's for sure..... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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As for all those who have emailed asking ME to get Mrs BillyBobcat to enlarge the picture, I say do it yourself.

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ROTFLMAO!!! Thanks Mike! I needed that after these past few days! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Please don't feel as if you have to keep it "clean" for me, I spend most of my time around "car guys" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

By the wayÖI just left the ìLoungeî. I introduced myself there and posted a ìTOPLESSî pic [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]

Rita [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I thought you Chevy boyz could use a little lesson in drag racing....

This is how it is all the way down the track, lookin at our tail lights.

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......and then you woke up ! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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No.... this is for real.... see

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Steve,
PROZAC works wonders, it brings back a sense of reality! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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Steve,
PROZAC works wonders, it brings back a sense of reality! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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NO NO... the evidence cleary shows the 2002 Johnny Lightning whooping the Vintage 1969 Redline Heavy Chevy. Normally I'm a Redline man, but the Judge is bad.

I like Viagra more.

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Steve,
My sympathies go out to you for the necessity of Viagra use. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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Matt

You ever heard of that band Limp Bisket? I cry every time I hear one of their songs.

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I cry every time I hear one of there songs.

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I hear PROZAC works wonders for that too! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

And btw...did you ever hear that song "Hard as a Rock" by AC/DC? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]

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You must be mistaken, That looks like how far we usually spot a Pontiac off the line.....
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MrsB...Is that Michael Jackson standing next to the GTO ? Pic is so small we can't tell...Pantera...you would do well to check up on that Steved guy since he is in Tulsa....he must be smoking some type of Goat chips.

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Now Pantera.... you know good and well Chevy guys do more Monday quarterbacking than any other ....wait this doesn't include Ford and Dodge...... any other GM car. "Maybe if I get more N.O.S. or a bigger cam, then maybe I can get close enough to read his tag next time".

I might get motivated for a trip to Church Sunday over there on Sheridan, which service and what time do you go?

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What can I say ..... these kids like stuff I never heard of nowadays..??? My favorite Biscuits are Pillsbury butter tasting .... but I doubt that is what he is refering to?? He seems to be a OK kinda guy to me.



We spent some time on the phone the other night. he lives and breathes GTO's. Now to me that is not bad just different. I love all kinds of different cars. Biscuits too...!!!! Mmmmmm... think I hear one calling my name now?
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Don't forget the gravy. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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The research is in full gear on the silver Judge, soon as something pops I'll post it. In the mean time while digging through old documents n such.... there are listings for RAV-WI and WY motors for standard / XY and XW for Automantic. Does anyone know how that can be since they were all sold over the counter, for the most part? After pondering on it a bit, I might guess they were camed different accordingly in the crate. But the same book only list one cam, 545713. So then I begin to wonder if they came with or whithout the clutch set up? That seems a little odd because they could have sold that seprate, just as we do today. Anyone know the answers without lashing out at me? And yes I realize it's just a book, not gospel.

Info source: Pontiac HD parts & specs by Craig Hendrickson & Kern Osterstock HO Racing Specialties INC.

Tom you might know this one, you would appear to be top dog on RAV stuff in this forum.