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Zedder 10-25-2003 03:17 PM

1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Looking for '67 Z-28 parts: 266 distributors, DF wheels, 610 intakes, cowl plenum air cleaners, 6764 and 822 cranks, MO and MP blocks, etc. Thanks! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif[/img]

TDW 11-10-2003 11:53 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Mark...There is a NOS crank on ebay today. Says it is a 67 Z28.

Zedder 11-10-2003 12:55 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Thanks Tony...I'll check that out!

Salvatore 11-10-2003 06:11 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Mark, You should be able to use a nice 283 crank. They are steel and small journal. Good Luck! Sam

68z302 11-10-2003 07:12 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Sam,
Although the 283 crank will fit it all depend how picky you are about your resto.
The bolting flange for the flywheel is different on a 302 VS a 283 crank. I can't remember which is which one has a bolting flange that is a full circle, the other has a notch in it. Plus the Z28 crank is tuffrided.

Salvatore 11-10-2003 07:50 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Rob, You are correct. They were tufftrided. Most off that wears off in time. I never really saw a 302 or LT1 crank where that really mattered. I believe that the 1967 302 crank is a circle with a V cut into it. Anyhow it would all work. There are a couple cranks on e-bay and also I think there is a harmonic balancer available where the key way does line up with the timing mark. The block can be a 4 in bore job with small journals, or you can buy bearing spacers if a small journal is not available. To me the internal parts arn't as important to a resto. as the bolt on parts, as long as it is a REAL 302 with the correct compression. I was hard pressed to get 30 over pistons for my 1969 Z. We had to fly cut a set of TRW 12:1's. There are manufactures out there: Venolia, C+P etc, but are around $800.00 a set. (forged) Correct #'s and date carb, intake, distributor,heads, pulleys, fan, valve covers, correct heads on the intake bolts correct coil etc. is what I try to get first. Correctly dated block is important to me also. Cams, rods,whatever crank I can get 1967 Z original first choice if it is good and reasonable, or I could live with a nicely preped 283 crank. Just my opinion. Sam [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

rafbody 11-10-2003 08:05 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
The 302 crank did have one notch out of it but the exact crank was also used in 283's. The only difference was the 302 crank was tuffrided. I have examples of both.

Russ

Salvatore 11-10-2003 08:16 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Ok Russ, I thought they may be the same, but wasn't sure. I think you can get one re-tuffrided if you want to. I don't really think it is necessary. I bet you Ben Wenzel with the D/S national record 1967 Z/28 doesn't worry about his crankshafts. They are probably all 283 cranks he has. Sam [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

rafbody 11-10-2003 09:17 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
I have talked to Ben at the races a few times. He has a great car. Just for clarification, most of the 283 cranks I have seen have a round flywheel flange but, some of them are the same as the 302.

Russ

JoeC 11-10-2003 10:48 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Did they have a tapped hole in front of crank? I have one with notch rear flange no tapped hole in front. Seems strange that they relied on just a press fit to hold the H B on.

Salvatore 11-10-2003 11:28 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
I believe they did Joe. Sam

rafbody 11-11-2003 12:03 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
I have not checked the 283 cranks I have but if it is a 302 crank, I am pretty sure it was tapped. The 302 had an 8inch harmonic balencer where the 283 had a much smaller one.

Russ

RPZ28 11-13-2003 01:30 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Sam, it would be impossible to wear the tuffriding surface off. The nitriding process is about .015 thousands deep. The crank would have to be .030 under to be completly gone.
Zedder I have a 67 z28 crank #3815822 std.- std. for $400.
let me know if you are interested.
Ron

Zedder 11-13-2003 03:07 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Thanks Ron, but I just bought one from another forum member.

Salvatore 11-13-2003 11:46 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Ron, I have 2-1969 302 cranks. One is 20/20 and the other is standard. I guess the one that is standard still has the tuffride, and the other one 20/20 is gone? How can you tell? Thanks, Sam

RPZ28 11-14-2003 12:51 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Sam, the only way to tell is to do a rockwell"C" hardness test on it, but the diamond tip from the tester will leave a small prick mark on the journal. The only problem with nitriding is that it is the hardest at the surface, the more you grind off the softer it gets. Yours at .020 under still should have some hardness left, at .030 under its usually complety gone. I hope this helps.
Ron

Salvatore 11-14-2003 03:59 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Thanks Ron. I thought that the hardness was only about .015 thick at the most,but You learn something new everyday! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

RPZ28 11-15-2003 12:35 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Sam, the .015 depth is radial, and .030 is total depth on the diameter.
Ron

Salvatore 11-15-2003 12:46 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Thanks for your help Ron. Sam [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

TDW 11-25-2003 10:16 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Mark...There is an ad on Team Camaro this morning you may be interested in. Guy thinks he has a 67 Z28 block and crank. His name is Don. 509-276-6090.

Zedder 11-25-2003 12:17 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Thanks Tony! Please do me a favor and send me a PM next time...the vultures are already circling [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TDW 11-25-2003 12:21 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
OK Mark...will do.

resto4u 11-25-2003 12:45 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
mark, im very hungry and going in for the kill! "vultures" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img] Roger

Zedder 11-25-2003 05:09 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
OK Roger, if you are that hungry, I'll let you have the motor - just make sure you don't choke on that decked block [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

resto4u 11-26-2003 12:15 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
one step ahead of you, talked to him last night. And denis was one step ahead of me. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Roger

Zedder 11-26-2003 01:00 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
...and Alan was one step ahead of both of you [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img]

Denis 11-26-2003 05:41 PM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
[ QUOTE ]
one step ahead of you, talked to him last night. And denis was one step ahead of me. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Roger

[/ QUOTE ]

Wasn't me. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

PS: You guys looking for 67Z parts should check out the Classifieds on my website (carbs, intakes, rear ends, etc available).

KNAPPY 11-27-2003 01:01 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Where is your website?

resto4u 11-27-2003 02:29 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
Denis, the seller said he was contacted by a person from seattle that had 3 67 z28's. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] Roger

Zedder 11-27-2003 02:44 AM

Re: 1967 Z-28 Parts Wanted
 
That's correct...Denis has two. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]


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