Jim Kirby's 1968 Harrell Funny Car for Sale!
 

1968 Harrell Funny Car #3

Matched set Tom?

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Shh...I've finally gotten dad switched from funny car mode to Nova mode [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] !

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Wow that was a quick turn.

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His wife is making him sell it. I think she is crazy, but I guess he doesn't want to move out in the dog house just yet. Ohh well, its still a cool car and some other lucky person will be happy with it!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif[/img]

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I just spoke with the owner, he ended the listing as someone contacted him wanting payment for the rights to use the Harrell name in the auction in association with the car. WTF? cant sell a used race car that was associated with someone without paying rights to the name? Someone move me to Moscow while I was sleeping? Any thoughts on this guys?
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

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God Bless America... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]

I understand the spirit of the complaint, but heck...it's one car and history needs the description to remain attached to the car [presuming it's authentic].

JMO...

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I'm confused too. On the Harrell site, Dale Pulde stated that it was a car that Dick drove, and, then Kirby took it over, ran it with the Dick Harrell name on it, BUT, that it was never an original Dick Harrell car. Can anyone shed some light on this? I guess he means that even though it was raced by Harrell, and, had his name on it, that it was not OWNED by Harrell. Still a neat piece of Harrell history.

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You will notice Bill Porterfields 02 ZL1 no Longer says Dick Harrell on the side. I'm not sure if his 69 still has it or not..Kinda Sad....

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Considering that bit of info Charlie, I would say someone is going to great lengths to protect the name or turn a profit. Seller says he is letting the funny car go to buy a maroon 68 Harrell 427 68 Nova, appparently from the same person he bought his Yenko Camaro from. Hmmmmm......
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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This is for Mike Guarise, lets get something straight the car was never owned or driven by the late Dick Harrell, I was there when Jim Kirby told us the story about the car. Jim had the car built for him by Don Hardy back in 1968 and this is around the same time Dick had his car built. When Jim first raced the car it was painted gold, it wasn't repainted to the Harrell colors until Harrell and Kirby joined up together later on in 1968. At that time the car was painted with Dick Harrell on the rear quarter and Kirby's name on the front fender along with Boemler on the door. In 1969 Harrell took his car back to Hardy where the 1968 body was exchanged for the 1969 body, but it still had the 1968 frame. Jim had nothing but good things to say about Harrell. The reason him and Harrell broke up the team is when Harrell put a HEMI in his car and Jim refused to switch to a non-Chevy engine. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img] I can respect that!!! As for the car, it is the real thing and it has never been altered, wrecked, burned, etc. Jim had to take off the Harrell name when they split up, and in the right light you can see Dick's name still in the gold leaf, as for the Boemler logo, that was removed and Super Rat was painted on top of that and belive it or not you can see the logo outline on the side of the car. You can believe
anything you want about this team but picture don't tell lies. Jim had a whole S--T load of pictures his car with Dicks car and the two of them were right next to each other. I think that you need to come down to St. Louis to see the car for yourself and bring anybody else that wants to come. It might be your only chance to experience something that was so close and was part of the Harrell experience. Enough of that, Charley Bill's car doesn't have Harrells name on it anymore, it has Bill Porterfield on the rear quarter now. Maybe he didn't want to pay for the rights either. I think that sucks, here are two pieces of racing history that can't even show there true colors because of money, where the hell is it going to stop????? I wonder if Bill has to pay rent on the #1 ZL-1 because Harrell used to race it, or all the spectators at every track that Harrell ever raced at has to pay a royalty fee,
or my freind might have to pay cause you can still see Harrells name on the car, or the whole State of Missouri because Harrell used to live here. I understand the pain of a lost love one, but to actually try to make money off of something that the person was part of is crazy. I know the owner of the funny car isn't saying anything that isn't true to sell this car, its just a great piece of racing history that is still with us and not destroyed by time or anyother un-natural disasters. This is America lets try to act like Americans. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img] Last for MotownMadman, Kevin does have a 1969 Yenko Camaro, and is thinking of buying the Nova, he just has to sell this car cause his wife doesn't want him to have it and that is the truth. She doesn't care about all the other cars that he has or wants, its just that this is a race car and she doesn't want this to get in the way of thier business restoring cars instead of racing nostalgia cars. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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396L35,
Who in the heck is trying to charge money? They are basically holding history hostage! Porterfield went way out of his way to restore the ZL-1 to be the Harrell car, now history has to stop for the next generations so they cant experience it? If Dick were with us I am sure he would want nothing more then to see his life's work and ambitions respected and paid tribute to by having his name out there for everyone to see and enjoy to this day. He wouldnt want a few bucks in his pocket, he would want to hear his name over the loudspeaker at the drags! I would give anything possible to have that funny car, I would put Dick's name back on the car and let the attorneys try and catch me to try and take it off. The current owner didnt give me a ball park figure, so I dont know if this is something feasible for me to alter my life to go after or not. This car needs to be put back as it was to preserve history! A new owner could always get a legal name change to Dick Harrell then put it on the car!
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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I'm glad you feel the same way as I do. I have been part of this cars history bringing back from the dead out of Kirbys garage and it has been fun. The person is Harrells daughter, she is the one that caused the sell of the car to be put on halt. She feels that she owns the rights to her fathers name and wants to be paid for the name where ever it may appear, even on a race car that was helping her father put food on the table for her when she was younger. Jim Kirby used his money to buy the car and Harrell came to him and asked him to race under his flag. I feel this car should have that name with it without paying the royalties from some greedy person. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif[/img]

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Find out what the bottom line is with your friend if I give my word to run the Dick Harrell name on the car. Let me know.
Thanks,
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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I think if you go down to see him and look at the car you can get your your answer from him. It's only a five hour drive from Chi-Town. I don't know what he wants for the car nor do I know what he gave for it that was between him and Jim and I didn't want to know. He probably would be willing to trade for the car but like I said its not mine to say. I know he was going to reword it and put it back on ebay, but if you want to see it I will tell him to hold off. I dont think the car needs to be redone. It is kinda cool to see the faint letters in the gold leaf and Dicks daughter cant take that away. Mark [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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This is a once in a life time opprotunity to own an <font color="red">all origional Dick Harrell 1968 Camaro funny car </font> .How many of these cars do you think are still around?Much less one that has never been wrecked,repainted,or stripped of it's original parts.You will not have to go looking for anything to enjoy this car right away.


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I think the one that wrote up the ebay add caused most of the confusion with that statement.

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Get me a number and an address I would be interested in speaking with the owner about purchacing this car. I am local here in St. Louis.
Thanks Doug Herzog
www.herzogracingengines.com

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Maurice, I think your right about the ad that was on Ebay, it is confusing but what he was trying to say is that it was sponsored by Harrell and the car is still in the Harrell paint. As for the daughter of Dick Harrell I wanted to say that I was sorry for being so harsh towards you because I recieved a phone call this morning telling me the reasons for the money to advertise your fathers name. If anybody should get money from his name it should be the family first. Thanks, Mark [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]

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Mark, nice post. Glad you, the owner and the family were able to work things out. A really neat car, where ever it ends up, and with whatever paint scheme. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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I would put Dick's name back on the car and let the attorneys try and catch me to try and take it off.

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Matt, the very reason folks assoicated with supercar families at times seem cold and/or hard to deal with. Often times they feel used and abused, simply over a few $$$. Following Vettefset last year, the Gibb family was drawn into a mud slinging affair over a "proposed" Gibb funnycar. Just recently Mr. Motion had to resort to legal actions to try and clear up a matter he was drawn into, and now the Harrell family. At least get both sides of the story (speak with Valerie), as Mark did, before going off on one of your rants. IMO, these familes deserve our respect, not our bashing.

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Tom just so theres no missunderstanding the "proposed" 1969 Gibb funnycar was for sale at Vettefest for what I considered a fair price of $25,000.There was no name attached to that car whatsoever and being that price i was not taking advantage of anybodys name.What transpired at the show is over and done with.I get along with the Gibb family and respect them as great people.Just clarifying.I do agree with Tom in one aspect Hope Yenko deserves respect for not charging to put the Yenko name on the Yenko cars.

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Tom,
Obviously I wasnt serious about letting the attorneys chase the car, and I dont agree with using anyones name for the purposes of making a copy/clone or whatever the politically correct name may be these days, or using a family name for the purposes of profit. However, to use the name in a non-profit and non-malicious way in the course of preserving history should not be a problem. Obviously this type of situation is something that has to be a case by case basis to be overseen by family, but if the car came originally with a certain name or design it should be allowed to be restored to original. For example, suppose the Yenko family decided to protect their name to the point that if you were to restore your Yenko no stripes were available due to family rights, so then you have a set made to bring your car back to original and the family takes you to court to make you remove them. Now you have a Yenko which could never be original again. That does not seem fair, and yes this is an extreme example, but if history shows through photographs or documents that a car had certain designs or names when initially built then that car should be allowed under law to retain it's originality thereby preserving it's history. The new ZL-1 with the Harrell name on the side is a different matter. That is an after the fact situation that would certainly require permission from the family or rights holder, I am in complete agreement, but a car that obviously at some point had the permission to use that name should be allowed to do so in the absence of a document from Mr. Harrell to Mr. Kirby from that initial time period stating the rights were withdrawn. In the course of restoring a famous Rembrandt the signature requires to be gone over and repaired, suppose the Rembrandt family came forward and said "No, permission is not allocated for the Rembrandt name to be used" So all Rembrandt works have to have the signatures removed because the family requests it? I do believe the families in these type of collector car situations should pay close attention and be treated with respect over the name, but at the same time the advocate of preserving the history of these cars and the hobby in general should be allowed to preserve and maintain the history of these vehicles. If the car had that name when built, then it should be allowed to keep the name to maintain it's originality. IMO
Thanks,
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]

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Tom, I didn't speak with Valerie this morning, even though it would be an honor, it was an individual interested in the car that happens to know the Harrell family. Your right, I shouldn't have bashed Valerie last night on the rights of her fathers name, but I feel the same way Matt does on this subject: If the car came with it, and you can clearly see it still on the car, then why not let history be told the way it was. I don't want to see this car having to be repainted, over the rights of someones name, it should be left alone and enjoyed by all that see it. If I am out of line let me know???? But in all respect for the Harrell family I think Dick would love to see the car as it was back when he was teamed up with Kirby and Valerie has to see that this is a piece of racing history that her father was heavily involved with and loved...Mark [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]

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Mark, no problem here. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img] A sticky situation to say the least. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

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Let me see if I understand what you are saying. If the family gives us what we want, which is use of the name for free, that is great, we respect them. But, if they try to profit from the name, then we should say the hell with them and just do it anyway. Sorry, I respectfully disagree. I guess that is why I am the only one who ever went to the trouble to ask/recieve permission from the Yenko family/estate to use the Yenko name. And, why I helped both the Harrell and Gibb families trade mark their logos, when I could have done it myself, and generated a lot of $$. Sorry, but to me, there are right ways and wrong ways of doing things.

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Tom Clary

Through a nice windfall I just bought the following companies: Cragar, Don Hardy and B&amp;M. Effective immediately remove the above mentioned names &amp; logos from the side of your '68 F/C or we will pursue this matter in court.

Motown your last post is the most common sense I've heard on this site in along time and I agree 100%.

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Make jest, poke fun, what ever, make light of the situation, that is fine. But, remember, members of the Harrell, Yenko, Gibb, Rosen, Nickey and maybe even other supercar family members frequent this site. I would imagine they are not too excited about the tone of this thread, and may be even harder to deal with in the future. And, who could blame them. I know I would be hestitate to bid/negotiate on the Kirby car right now, knowing I might need to deal with the Harrell family in the future.

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Using a name such as Dick Harrell, or others to gain a profit from what you are doing or selling falls into a different category than having a car with a name on it.
In the case of this car, as I stated before I think the biggest problem was in the wording of the ebay ad. The car is not an original Dick Harrell funny car; it is an original Jim Kirby funny car that was run under the Dick Harrell banner for a year or two. If I remember the story right Dick installed the blown engine in exchange for the use of the car for this time period. So with taking that into consideration it is a Jim Kirby funny car with a Dick Harrell engine. Whatís that make the engine worth? The wording of the ad could have (and I say could have because it may or may not make a difference) a great deal of influence on the price of the car. I think this was an honest mistake and applaud them for stopping the ad to fix the problem. I do believe that it would benefit them to talk to Valerie and get things straightened out to get the name back on the car. The car is a great piece of history the way it is, Jim Kirby history!

Just my 02 worth....ok maybe 03

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A point to ponder. Anytime one of the supercar families agree to the use of their family name/logo on a car, they are actually "authenicating" it. A very big issue in this day and time. This alone can make a car worth 2-3 -? times more then another similar car. Are not they entitled to a portion of this windfall?

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Has anyone even asked Valarie what her ideas are? I have talked to her. She is very nice and I respect her. Most of you have never spoke to her or heard any of the things that have happened to her over her fathers cars or business. But yet you bash her anyway because it does not agree with your feelings. The Harrell family should have a say in what goes on. I know some things are in the works that would make most Harrell fans stand up and cheer. Things that are being looked into by Valarie and others that are close to her and who she respects. The way this thread started, I wonder why they even care sometimes. If it weren't for Harrell, maybe some of your other Supercars Dealer {Yenko, Nickey etc.} may have never been realized. Let's hear the Harrell side of things..BKH [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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I agree with Brian. I'd say before anyone says any more about the Harrells, you should spend some time over here.
Enjoy. http://www.dickharrell.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl
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Why is this such a big deal ? Because of the wording in the E-Bay listing ? How many old race cars from very famous people...whether team cars or not have been dug up,thankfully and put back to their old glory in the best "livery" the car had....look at all the old Pontiacs and MoPars that went on to finish their useful lives as workhorses at local tracks.Only to be found later and brought back to glory....no one would want to restore one of these cars to say...the day it caught fire and make it looked burned up...or put the lettering of some obscure but hard working racer that used it for 10 years after it's famous racer sold it...I don't get it. Where is the insult here...

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While I'm an outsider to the parties mentioned, I think one should look at the whole situation realistically. I'm sure the Harrell family are nice people but let's be honest. Dick Harrell was a drag racer in an era in which he had limited marketability. That is to say he raced, and became famous when the marketing of his name wasn't even thought of in the way we know it today. I would bet that if you asked 10000 people on a city street who he was, maybe 10%would recognize his name, even when he was alive and racing. Today I bet it would be close to .0001%. That being said, if we are saying that the family is trying to make sure others don't profit off of his name and legacy, then isn't it a catch 22? By that I mean, do you really think the family will sell t-shirts, plaques, or whatever if the product that made the guy, somewhat famous in the first place isn't allowed to be used by others? If the family wants his legacy to continue, how is it going to happen when a) the guy is not here any longer B) even when he was here, his "notoriety" was limited (again today ask 10,000 people anywhere who Michael Jordan is) C) the people that are best situated by owning the products that made the guy famous in the first place, can't even use his name to insure that future generations even have a clue..Sure the fact that the guys name is attached to some car, might increase the value of it, but if it weren't for the guy that owns and spends HIS money racing or displaying the car, do we really think people would care enough to want a t-shirt?? Doubtfull..

The bottom line is that every time Bill Porterfield raced car #1 or that '02 #1 was pictured,with "the name" applied, the family stood to make money through sales of merchandise, and more importantly the legacy of "Dick Harrell" would contine.

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You make some very valid points, and I agree with them. BUT, shouldn't the decision of how/if, the name is marketed, be up to the family, not outsiders?

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Well in the strictest sense..yes. However for the family it is a fine line. On one hand the family has to make sure that the name isn't being used in a way that degrades the "legacy" of the person. Also they have to decide how much money can/will be made if the name isn't protected and if it is protected. They then have to weigh them against each other. Look at it this way..let's say the family says "all items (cars,shirts,hats, web sites..) that have the name "Dick Harrell": must be licensed through us." What happens to any legacy? On one hand the family might run the risk of a tarnished legacy (through "outsiders' misuse) or not "reaping" the financial rewards of the name. However if they take complete control of the name and its' usage, they could be preceived as "greedy' and of "hyjacking" history, and any perceived "legacy" dies as a result.

Putting everything into perspective..Go to the drag strips today and ask teenagers, hell even 30 year olds (which are the future of car collecting and of keeping whatever "legacy" alive) who Dick Harrell is? How many will be able to say?? Go to a basketball court in BFE..ask a kid (even one 6 or 7) who MJ is? Get the point... I think too many people are loosing sight of the bigger picture here.

The correct answer to all of this is that both sides (the families and the owners/marketers) need each other...That is the family can't keep any legacy alive without someone using the products and getting them exposure to the masses (espcially since they don't even own the things by which the name is recognizable in the first place). Conversly without the families support through documenting and attending functions the owners of the cars loose out as well. Just my take on it.

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Greg, both posts very well said IMO.

Tom, I also like Belair don't know where the insult was. I have even re read the posts.

I also have spent hours talking with Valerie and Dale via their website thru the chat room. I did take the time out and learn about her family, her memories of Dick, and all that she personally went through in Dicks years of racing. IMO they are very good people that just want to keep the legacy of Dick Harrell alive.

Here is where I am confused. The above mentioned cars (Kirby Funny Car, and ZL1#1) had Dicks name on them back in the day. They are very significant pieces of history. I personally think that that ZL1#1 has to be the most historically significant supercar in existence. With that said, where is the crime so to speak with the Harrell name being on these cars? I am not talking about the opportunists that illegally used the Harrell name to benefit by selling merchandise, I mean the actual cars that carried his name that he either built or raced? I just don't understand. Like Motown wrote, what if the Yenko family said that no Yenko vehicle was to have stripes put back on it unless a royalty was paid? Sounds almost ludacrist if you ask me because the cars were originally built that way. Did you have to pay a royalty to have Dicks name put on the side of your funny car?

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As a matter of fact, I did agree to pay a royalty to put DH on my funnycar. Valerie was very understanding and easy to work with in this regards. Did I have to? Not for sure if anyone knows, but I felt it was the right thing to do. And, I do not regret that decision. As much fun as it is to show just the car, can not compare to having Valerie and her family involved with the it. I would encourage any one who has a car once owned/driven by a well known figure to do the same.

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OK, I'll toss in my thoughts on this. I know it probably has no meaning to anyone else, but this is what I'm thinking. These race cars obviously have multiple histories to them. When someone "restores" one of these cars, how do they determine what point in history they restore it to? For example, if the Kirby car was first raced with just his name on it at the very first event it went to, then Dick Harrell teamed up with him and they added his name later in the season, shouldn't the car be restored to just Kirby's name and have no reference to Dick Harrell? Or is it being restored with Harrell's name due to the notoriety? As for the the #2 ZL1, did it have Dick Harrell's name on it when it was first raced? If so, why should there be any royalty involved in restoring the car to the way it originally was raced? And lastly, I'll use Kevin's ZLX as another example. Do you restore it to the original condition as delivered from Motion to be raced or restore it to it's most famous condition while being raced? IMO, the cars should be restored to day 1 race condition. If the owner wants to restore it to day 233 race condition when Dick Harrell was a sponsor or teammate, then yes, a royalty probably should be paid in that situation. That's my thoughts on these race cars and I know it doesn't mean much. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/JeffSucksToo.gif[/img]

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Here is a short letter about C. Shelby in the August issue of Mustang Monthly. 10 years ago this letter would have gotten the writer stoned to death and the magazine burned to the ground by Ford enthusiast. No more. There is a growing fervelent backlash/hatred against Carrol Shelby because of his heavy handed tactics against his perceived use of the Shelby Cobra name by others. Some are legitimate but some are the most stupid stances that ever came down the pike.
Go to any Mustang related website with a BB like this one and you will see what I mean.

I think the majority of the people on this site see no problem if an original Harrell car is found why they could not put the Harrell name back on the car. Better yet, if an original car is found with the original paint with the name on it, why should they have to pay someone royalties to display the car? Also if a car is sold by someone back then and they do not remove their name beforehand or put it in writing that their name shall never be used again on the car don't they give up some of their rights?

I think sometimes the people who control the rights to any name/product forget that it's us little smucks out here through being fans are the ones that allow them to obtain royalties through various zillions of products etc. If there was no fans their name / image would not mean anything.

HYCHEV
The day may come when Yenko cars owners will not only have to pay a royalty but also add a new emblem next to each Yenko logo on the car... a big circle with a R in the center of it. What better way to keep track of who is in compliance or not. Don't laugh. All of us can pick out morals/trends/culture changes/laws/bans etc that are happening today we could not fathom happening 15-20 years ago.

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Carrol Shelby dreamed up, designed, built, marketed and sold the baddest musclecar of all time, the Cobra. Since being introduced, how many millions of dollars, just in kit cars, has been generated by this awesome car, of which he received nothing. IMO, Mr. Shelby is entitled to something.

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Also if a car is sold by someone back then and they do not remove their name beforehand or put it in writing that their name shall never be used again on the car don't they give up some of their rights?


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I think that is a very interesting thought!

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The car is still in the original paint that was run when Kirby was teamed up with Harrell with the only exception that Kirbys name on the rear quarter and a mouse on wheels and Super Rat painted over the Boemler logo. The story that I got from Kirby was he dropped the Harrell logo after Dick and him went there different ways. Later on in that same year Boemler drop there sponsorship with Kirby for reasons that he didn't want to talk about, so he painted the rat on the car.

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I think this answers that question!