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mmcporter 10-09-2003 12:20 AM

Tracing a car's history
 
I just bought a one-owner car with it's original California blue plate attached. Anyone know how I can research teh car's ownership history thru California?

Thanks,

JChlupsa 10-09-2003 12:34 AM

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<font color="red"> I just bought a one-owner car </font>

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If its a one owner car what is there to trace.

MotownMadman 10-09-2003 03:20 AM

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What year is the car? Was it sold new in Ca? If it was sold new in Ca, depending on the year of the car, I would think being a muscle car and assuming mid to late 60's or early 70's it should have the California "Black Plate". I am not exactly sure when the change was made from black to blue for plate color, anyone here on the board know when the change was made? It could still be a one owner car with the later plate color if it were brought in from out of state or ownership was changed within the family due to divorce etc., etc. As Jeff said, not much to trace if it was a one owner car and you had the opportunity to speak with the owner. So how bout it guys, when did the land of Sun and Surf go from black to blue on the plates?
Thanks,
Motown, in the land of perpetual Snow, Cold, Grey and Rain.

mmcporter 10-09-2003 03:57 AM

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Car is a 1972 Buick Skylark GS455 Convertible. An older couple bought it new in 1972 and registered it with the plate that's currently on it. They traded it in to the selling dealer recently, who never flipped the title. The old people lost the title so the dealer titled it in the dealership's name. He sold it to a local guy, who promptly resold the car to me. Dealer's pissed that local guy resold another car he sold to local guy at the same time, so he cut off communication with local guy. Local guy never knew original owner's names. In California, license plates permanently stay with the car, so since the car was always in California, it stands to reason that it's wearing the original license plate. Someday I may be able to go to the dealer and ask the questions, but right now it doesn't seem worth creating the waves. Thought there might be a riteous way to go thru the DMV to get the information.

It's confusing, but now you probably can understand why this "one owner" car isn't so easy to trace.

bilede 10-09-2003 04:42 AM

Re: Tracing a car's history
 
not relevent on this car due to its age but it was mid '69 when they switched from black to blue. have seen 69 camaro's original under both..

SuperNovaSS 10-09-2003 05:01 AM

Re: Tracing a car's history
 
California cars get new plates all the time.


Jason

scuncio 10-09-2003 05:25 AM

Re: Tracing a car's history
 
No easy way to get owner history through the Cal DMV. Best way is to trace through service receipts, if you have them. Good luck.

mmcporter 10-09-2003 11:25 AM

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California cars get new plates all the time.


Jason

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<font color="blue"> I've always heard that the plates stayed with a car during its entire history in California. Nevertheless, this blue plate is original to the car.</font>

Charley Lillard 10-09-2003 02:12 PM

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California Cars keep the same plates unless they get Personalized plates or if they have not been Registered for 4+ Years and fall off the Computer Database.

Belair62 10-10-2003 02:53 AM

Re: Tracing a car's history
 
I was hoping one of you Cal. guys would chime in on this...Charley I know the blues were a mid year introduction and the blues kind of filtered in with the blacks...do the plates still stay with the cars in Cal...even today ? What came after the blue plate and when was it introduced.

Charley Lillard 10-10-2003 03:32 AM

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Yes they stay with the Cars even Today. I can'r remember what was next..Maybe the White we have now ?

92646 10-10-2003 05:13 AM

Re: Tracing a car's history
 
If the Dealer is licensed with the DMV, they could run what is called a KSR. This is a direct link to the DMV that we use all the time but they are very strict on what we can do with that information. We would use it for when somebody trades in a car and we need to verify information about the car. We can verify that the person is the registered owner of the car, if the tags are current (additional fees would be due) or if it has a salvage title.

NCGuy68 10-10-2003 11:51 PM

Re: Tracing a car's history
 
Attempting to find any paperwork for my 68 Van Nuys built Z28, Sacramento DMV told me the following:

1. No info available for cars older then 6 years to the general public.

2. Expired tag numbers mean nothing.

3. Only way to trace older cars is thru court litigatetion involving a laywer or judge. (Example: A contested estate, will or trust)

I had a NC State Trooper run the VIN number for me and he came up with the same thing.

Other states are more liberal with their records. For example, I got complete history on my 82 Z28 from the NC DMV, no questions asked for free.



SuperCars 10-10-2003 11:56 PM

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That's just because Gray Davis is still in charge. Wait until "Da Terminator" takes office. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img]

Mr70 10-10-2003 11:58 PM

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You mean the Govenator. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Seattle Sam 10-12-2003 05:27 AM

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"Cull-ee-FAWN-ee-uh"

I just Love saying that...
-Sam [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]


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