Traction bars with F41 Rear Sway bar
 

Has anyone run traction bars and still been able to mount the factory rear F41 sway bar on Nova's and Camaros.?? As I see it, the factory lower mounting plates have the extra material/mounting area for the rear sway bar brackets (if you ordered the F41 suspension) and most traction bars that replace the lower bracket don't have this. Can you Sandwich the two plates together.??? Any ideas are appreciated

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Jim;
There are some Yenko Deuces that have traction bars along with the rear sway bar. They are unusual looking bars, I will try to dig up a pic. I have an excellent pic of one Deuce, he even painted everything white under there - makes it very easy to see!

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Thanks Marlin, could use some ideas, as I am day 2'ing. This car will be DRIVEN, and the last owner already ripped half of the welded sway bar mount off the trunk floor with some spirited driving back in the early 70's. Would like to get Motion type bars if possible, as that is what I am loosely basing the day 2 theme on. I have most of the stuff already, orig Motion valve covers, full set of Sun gauges/tach/decals. Thanks again for your help, look forward to some pics, how's the 69 coming.?? Sully

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I'd be interesred in seeing those sway bar/traction bars pic too. I didn't think you could do both. I know that if you change the height of the rear of the car, as in air shocks/shock extensions the bar doesn't set, or work very well.It actually turn upside down. Schonye

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I am thinking that you could probably use the cheesey bars that only bolt to the 2 front mounting holes instead of the normal bars that bolt to all 4 attaching points/replace the complete lower plate. We patiently await your pics Marlin.!!

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Ok, I will work on the pic scanning some more! I know that BKH has some pics as well, they are from an original owner deuce. The bars are cheesy lookin, not very good quality - they actually look homemade, but the owner says they weren't. Now that I think of it, I believe another orig. owner deuce has traction bars and the sway bar intact, I will pull those pics as well.

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Sully, if you're looking for the motion traction bar look, I think most of those used the J bolt setup. Sway bars help cornering, traction bars are for straight line. My 2 cents is that a combination of the two would tend to work against each other, or help very little. Schonye

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True statement Schoney, but my concern is spring wind up, which can be wicked in Novas, previous owner partially tore the sway bar mount off the trunk floor, I will lean to whatever traction bar I can use while keeping the sway bar intact, anything to cut down on the wheel hop/spring wind up. This vehicle will see some severe duty every once in a while.!!

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I brought the picture to work with me, will try to get it scanned! The bars look like some rough bar stock welded to the underside of the spring plates, they do not appear to be the stock spring plates. Funky looking traction bars, the owner doesn't remember where he got them.

The other orig. owner I was thing of does not have traction bars on his car. I will keep searching my picture book.

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Some of the 69 Motion Camaros used the Traction Master bars. This was a round bar that used a bracket that mounted to the spring plate in the rear. The front bracket mounted to either the front spring mount or some type of spring clamp. I have a set of NOS Traction Masters for a Chevelle with 24 in bar that I think can be used. You would need to fabricate new mount brackets because the Chevelle ones are different. You would need to fabricate a bracket to work around the sway bar. I remember seeing these types of bars used with the sway bar. see pic of Motion car with round type traction bars.

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Hey Sully, just A thought but have you tried clamping the leaf springs like Dick Harrell did to some of his cars? That may help control wheel hop until you find exactly what you are searching for. I saw some pictures of the clamps he used on A 68 ChevyII in A 68 PHR article and think they look really neat and very "day 2ish". I crashed my computer and lost all my scans so I don't have the picture.

Tommy Turner

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Sully, some of the wheelhop might be your tire pressure. I didn't run traction bars on my deuce back "in the day". but I did run air shocks and extensions, and left the sway bar on, although it was inverted. I ran Goodyear L60s on 8in. corvette rims, later went to fenton slots. At 28 psi the car wheelhopped all over. Dropped it down to 14psi dumped the clutch at 3700 and it left hard and straight. No wheelhop. As Rob will tell you tweaking, and experimenting are what makes a car work. Schonye [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif[/img]