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BEAUMONTBILL 12-10-2002 01:12 PM

How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
OK, we've just talked about the 67's, now lets talk about the 68s. It seems that these are valued less then 67's.
Is that because more are know to exist? Is there another reason?

COPO 12-10-2002 07:41 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Values always come down to supply AND demand. In the case of 68 Yenko's the demand is not as great as the '67's and '69's. There are quite a few more '69's but the demand is so much higher hence the value differential.

sixtiesmuscle 12-10-2002 08:18 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Why do you say that Charlie? Why would a '68 be valued less than a '67 of equal quality. I think that's a very subjective statement. Until a couple of weeks ago '67s were never worth what a '69 was. Now, based on one sale, the '67s are worth much more. The pricing rules as we have known them are, IMO, out the window.

Stefano 12-10-2002 08:54 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Pricing rules, you mean there is a rule book on how to, for this stuff [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

The market doesn't always do what we would expect it to.

The 1968 Yenkos are unique in that they were both Yenko Conversions and Factory COPO Camaros. So they maintain some of the '67s as well as '69s Stigma.

COPO 12-10-2002 08:56 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
I think as a rule of thumb for the same quality car, a 68 will sell for less than a 67 which will sell for less than a 69 regardless of production figures. This normally holds true for any Camaro be it a plain jane, an SS, or a Yenko. 69's are just incredibly popular. Look at 69 Z-28's w/20,000 produced sell for about as much as 67 Z-28's with 600 produced. Look at the 67 Z-28 from Baldwin Chev. that just sold on ebay. Bet it might have been more had it been a '69 from Baldwin. Nothing new here, it's been this way as long as I can remember.



COPO PETE 12-10-2002 09:41 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
While all that is true. I thinks what is happening is that as people buy there 69 COPO Camaro or Yenko Camaro, which are generally available, they turn there sight on the COPO Chevelles or Yenko's to add to the collection. There is not very many available of them so the price goes up. I predict the COPO and Yenko Chevelles will continually go up price wise. Was not to long ago you could get Chevelles for not a lot of money, but that has certainly changed in the last 8 months!
Peter

sixtiesmuscle 12-10-2002 09:43 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Yeah-but, another member who owns all of the above thinks that '67s are worth 25K more than '69s, because of rarity. The recent sale of a '67 for 175 lends credance to this belief. It seems like the demand for '67s & '68s is way up because so many '69s have been found & restored. The low number of the earlier cars might finally be catching on as a price factor. For instance: 1 of 7 '71 Hemi Cuda converts $800,000+. Makes a 1 of 7 or 8[existing] Yenko Camaro of either year quite a bargain at $175 doesn't it?

T Billigen 12-10-2002 10:33 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Talking about rare cars, Mike how is the Yenko Chevelle progressing?

BEAUMONTBILL 12-10-2002 10:48 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW MANY 68'S ARE OUT THERE?

Charley Lillard 12-11-2002 12:06 AM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Sixties...How can you say that up until a few weeks ago 67's were never worth a 69 ? When I bought the Blue 68 I paid 35K I think. At that same time Vince was offering me a basket case White 67 for about 55K. Supercars bought the white one and had it restored. He then sold it for over 100K I believe. Around the time I bought the 68, 69's were selling in the 50's and 60's. When Supercars sold the White 67, I don't think any 69's were over 100K. The Orange 69 you just had sold for about 54K at that time. I have no Idea why but it seems to me 67's just bring more.

Clint_69 12-11-2002 12:36 AM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
As everybody has seen on this sight and elsewhere, all of the above mentioned years command sizeable prices. IMO, it comes down ones preference of year. I would personally pay more for a 69 compared to a 67 or 68 of comparable quality. I do not think that you can place a value stature on these cars. A good analogy would be someone who would pay $100,000 for a stamp or a baseball card. It is all about what you are into. We will probably continue to see these cars, regardless of the year, out do each other on a case by case or a preference basis.

resto4u 12-11-2002 12:39 AM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
There was a 68 yenko for sale at stauffer classic, and sold very fast. Was bought by pennslyvania motor sport. peter brotman 610-666-1966 Not sure of selling price.

Belair62 12-11-2002 01:11 AM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Regardless of production figures or price ..I think if you had to choose only 1 for your garage it would be the 69.Something about those stripes !!!!

Stefano 12-11-2002 01:41 AM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
I know of one 1969 Yenko that sold for well over $100,000.00 two years ago.

So based on the '67 vs '68 thing Supply and Demand which will comand more $$$$ a 67' or '68 Baldwin/Motion Camaro?

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 12-11-2002 12:49 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
I think Clint has a valid point, peoples preference will play into it to some degree. I personally like the '68 Yenko Camaro's better than the '67's, especially an RS, and all things being equal, would pay similar '67 money to obtain the one I wanted. I don't really like the stripes, so the '67's and '68's really appeal to me. Just my .02- cents [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Denis 12-11-2002 04:33 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
The 68 Camaro is like the 56 Chevy. The middle child somehow never gets the respect it deserves.

Rat_Pack 12-11-2002 05:07 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Bill, to answer your question, I know of 14 documented cars for 68 that still exist. Twelve, possibly all, have been restored. Someone else may shed more light on it if the discussion ever comes back around to it [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] ............RatPack..................

BEAUMONTBILL 12-12-2002 03:18 AM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Thanks RatPack, thats the number I was looking for. When you say that there are 14 known to exist are you dealing with some sort of list or just your knowledge of specific cars? Are you counting my car, YS-8051? I'm trying to
find someone with a number close to mine that might have some paperwork they could share. Thanks [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

JoeC 12-14-2002 02:24 AM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Bill, there are three 68's in the past feature car section of this site. The blue one is 8013 and is/was for sale, the Corvette Bronze one with AC is 8037 according to my notes. I have a red 8036 but not sure if that is the number of the red feature car as there are other red ones.
Each year Yenko Camaro has their own special features. The 67s were on average sold with more modifications done by Yenko or Dick Harrell. From what I can tell many of the 67s were sold with headers and scattershields and advertised as AHRA legal drag cars. My original receipt shows headers, scattershield, hood pins, traction bars, and SW tach and gauges. Yenko still had a crew building Stingers in 67 so he was already set up for doing the mods on the Camaros. The 68s were very unique since most were COPOs with 140 speedometers and other special parts. I don't know of any 68 Camaros found with 140 speedo other then Yenkos. The 69s were double COPOs with those highly visible stripes. The 69s have received most of the publicity due to their higher quantity. They are all great cars.


Charley Lillard 12-14-2002 02:37 AM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
The red one that was a feature car is 8030.

JoeC 12-14-2002 12:23 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Anyone know where the blue 68 Yenko YS#8008 is? This was the raffle car from Classic Ind that they claimed was a "one and only" COPO 427 1968 Yenko Camaro valued at $250K.

SuperCars 12-14-2002 03:20 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Joe, I have the body build sheet and info to this raffle "one and only" 68 Yenko. Nothing points to it being a "one and only" COPO that I can see. The different 1968 MV engine code in conjunction with it's COPO 9737 is how the prior owners may have erroneously drawn this "one and only" COPO conclusion. The 9737 sports Car Conversion/Yenko relates mainly to suspension modifications, but for some reason prompted a motor stamp change to "MV" instead of the 396/375HP "MQ". So was "MV" a possibly L72 427/425HP COPO? Was it possibly a L78 396/425HP as in the 65 L78 Corvette motor? Maybe Yenko was removing 396/425HP motors only to be replaced by 427's.

My 68 Yenko Camaro also has it's original documents, with original P-O-P showing an MV engine code, designated COPO 9737. But my 68 does have something different, for which it is a "one and only". This is from the original (Onion Skin Sheet as Vince Emme calls it) order invoice of my 68. He says it is the only one of the 68's ordered as a solo order. He has said to me and others on this board, that it states right on the original order sheet "Special Order Drag Car". On my door pillar is the tag stating the same. I believe my car recieved a motor different from the others, or why the separate order and designation "Drag Car". My car was shipped straight to Dick Harrell's shop and was to be raced by the son's of Branine of Branine Chevrolet. Anyway Vince says all the other orders of 68's were ordered in batches of 4 cars on the "onion skin sheets". Vince won't sell me a copy of my car's order, won't sell copies of any kind anymore, and wants it to remain as a part of his Yenko collection of paperwork, that may be sold someday when he retires from the car business. I am appreciative of his telling me of my cars history though.

On another side subject of all 68's being COPO's; I've also seen a copy of a Yenko letter to Vince Piggins by Donna Mae for purpose of tracking the numbers of 68's produced. The 68 Yenko raffle car and my 68 Yenko are on this list. At the bottom of the second page there is a separate paragraph below a different 68 Yenko of this list of 20 that says, Note: "This Camaro is from the first group which were built without our COPO's". I assume Donna Mae is referencing "the" first group produced, but not "this" entire group of 20 in the letter. This I say, because I have the documentation that the 68 raffle car and my 68 "Special Order Drag" car are documented COPO 9737 "MV" cars on this list of 20.


T Billigen 12-14-2002 07:07 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
Joe, I bought a 1968 Camaro from "Kenny Ross Chevy" in Pittsburgh that had the 140 speedo, It was Corvette Bronze and was the 396-375HP. I don't think it was anything special but it seems that speedo sure could cause some controversy. The Car is still in the Aliquippa area and a couple of months ago Chuck Huber looked at the car to see if the speedo was still, intact and it was. When I bought it I never really paid any attention to it because I thought all the 375HP cars came with it.

68l30 12-14-2002 07:48 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
From what I've read Kenny Ross was quite a performance dealer in the day.Their service dept had it's own dyno and also a separate performance showroom.A quote of about 25% of all new car sales in 69 were Hi-Po cars.Cool [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

Steve

T Billigen 12-14-2002 09:07 PM

Re: How Many 68 Yenko Camaros are known to be found?
 
When I bought my car, there was 5 Hipo camaros sitting with mine, 2 ralley greens, 2 lemans blues, and a yellow. I picked the corvette bronze because that was the only one I ever seen that color.


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