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Sorry to bother you guys again, but the hunt is going well. I am looking for a former owner of my Blue Yenko Chevelle his name is Robert Serrano, in 1978 he lived at 3738 N. Wilton in the Chicago area.
Also Jack Douglas, who owned Jack Douglas Chev. in Hinsdale IL. Thanks for all the E-Mails

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James I did a white pages search on AOL for Metro Chicago and came up with 2 ROBERTO Serrano's. Try Yahoo white pages or some others. Unless it was Roberto I struck out.

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I found only one "Robert Serrano" listed in all of Illinois. And, bingo, he lives in Chicago.

Serrano, Robert
3721 Ashland Ave
Chicago
IL, USA 60613-3601
Phone: (773) 5492563

I also did a reverse search on the address itself, to see who lives there today.

Allen, Michael
3738 Wilton Ave
Chicago
IL, USA 60613-3966
Phone: (773) 9293306

Rosbolt, John
3738 Wilton Ave
Chicago
IL, USA 60613-3966
Phone: (773) 6652361

Good luck.

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Both addresses are in the same general area too.You may be in luck James.

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Jack Douglas lives in Batavia Il.

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I just want to let you know that with all of the e-mail I have received from everyone on this sight, I was able to locate the orginal owner who still had the Protect-o-Plate and 32 dealer repair invoices from 1969 through 1975. I also was able to to trace the car's history from 1969 to today. I own several collector cars and NEVER was able to trace a car's history as easy as you have made it. I will post some copies next week when I get to a scaner. THANKS AGAIN James https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/burnout.gif

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Very cool results!!
M

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Cool. What was the original owner's reaction when you contacted him? Did he want to buy the car back?

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OK James now that you are good at this...lets see if we can find the P.O.P. for my Chevelle !!!! Where do we start ?

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Me too. I have a few pieces of my build sheet, but the P-O-P, would be real nice, 69 COPO Chevelle, Last owner was Thomas A. Stubbs, from NJ,from the 1973 title, I have, any one want to try this one? https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

MIKE

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Mike, do you have a street address and/or town listed on that '73 title?

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Denis; Yes, I have it. It is as follows:

Thomas A. Stubbs, 43 Dalewood Rd., Clifton, NJ. Date of Issue:6 29 73. Here is the VIN 136379B404108, it's a Fathom Green with Dark Green Bucket/console, Tac/gages,F41,L72,M22,NC8....Pretty rare COPO, with all these options. It has been Certified by COPO Connecting, back in 1996.I would also like to know, how I can get this VIN run on NICB, to find out what dealer sold it New. NJ only keeps logs back, for 10 Years. Any help, would help to finish Docing this Rare COPO Chevelle....No, it's not for sale.. Thanks, for any info, MIKE https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/burnout.gif

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There's only one Thomas Stubbs listed in all of NJ.
His address is a mere 12 miles from that given on
your paperwork.

Stubbs, Thomas
14 Marshall St
Irvington
NJ, USA 07111-8633
Phone: (973) 4161653

If it's the wrong guy, there are only two other
possibilities listed in all of NJ.

Stubbs, T
1008 Inland Rd
Forked River
NJ, USA 08731-5210
Phone: (609) 2429183

Stubbs, T
734 Stewart Ave
Bridgeton
NJ, USA 08302-3133
Phone: (856) 4511757

As a last resort, try calling all the neighbours.
There's no current phone # listed for the original
address, but here are three of the neighbours' numbers,
including that of the house immediately across the
street (this is a residential street just off the Garden
State Parkway). Don't laugh -- I was able once to
find a previous owner by calling a neighbour who
not only remembered the car but knew where its owner
had moved to:

Costa, Rosangela
48 Dalewood Rd
Clifton
NJ, USA 07013-3402
Phone: (973) 7796761

Eusebio, M
44 Dalewood Rd
Clifton
NJ, USA 07013-3402
Phone: (973) 4726930

Obrien, K
47 Dalewood Rd
Clifton
NJ, USA 07013-3401
Phone: (973) 7780940

Can't help you with NCIB reports. If you find out how
to get at 'em, let me know because I also have an
undocumented 67 Z28 which I can't trace back beyond
1976.

Good luck, and let us know how everything turns out.

- Denis

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Thanks, and will let everyone know, how it turns out. Had a state trooper, that said he located him, but nothing since then. I'll check into these numbers, and post it. I know at least one neighbor remembers the car, but don't know which one, we'll see. Thanks Denis...regards, MIKE https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/burnout.gif

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The original owner's reaction was, "I have been waiting for this call a long time." He did not ask to buy the car back he just wants to see it when it is in his area.
The search for old owners can be very hard, I have about 250 hours in this search. All you need is a few pieces of the puzzle like A69COPO2 has, alot of paitence and some good help like I had on this websight.

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I very much, agree, the folks on this site, are very helpful and I enjoy posting info, if I can help. This car will get a full ground-up Restoration, as it deserves. I have run into brick walls, some of the previous owners, didn't want to help. I'll just keep looking under all the stones, until Mr. Stubbs and I talk. This car was never registerd, by a few owner, this makes it difficult. I'm just happy the 1973 title/ partial build sheet came with the car.

If their's some one out, that lives in Cliffon NJ area, that knows of a 1966-67 GTO running a BBC with a four speed, namely my 427. I would like the name of this owner and phone#. This is a rumor, that I'm also chasing. Car was drag raced and had some other parts installed, that through me off into another direction. I under stand that NICB, can direct me to the dealer that received this car, just don't know how to do this part, any help on this, would help alot.

Thanks, again Denis, and I'll be calling these People today, will post as I find things out.

MIKE https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/burnout.gif

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Denis, I know alot guys who raced at Union Grove in the 70's. I wasn't in the area at that time but many of my buddies often talk about the Yenkos that ran there. I don't know how many times my friend Bill will bring up the time he beat a 69 Yenko Nova there in 72'. I'll ask about Cokebottles maybe something will turn up.

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Denis, does that mean your the one that talked Kevin out of the 67 ? Cool....... https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/burnout.gif

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Denis,
Great Lakes Dragaway has a website, www.greatlakesdragaway.com . Maybe you can get in touch with the present owners, or leave a message on the message board on their site. The present owners have had the track for a few years, they bought it from "Broadway Bob". I would bet that he knows "cokebottles".

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Charley, yep, she's mine now. Still at Kevin's until I clear my wife's Mustang out of the shop. I plan to show it at the mid-March Roadster Show here in Seattle.

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Denis, 30 minutes to find the orginal owner, you hit the loto. Where did you get a polaroid of your P-O-P? Mustang?

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Mike, Back in the 80's there were some magazine articles doubting the COPO Chevelle ever was built. I have in my notebook that a guy by the name of D. C. Bulna wrote in to the magazine stating that he worked at Malcolm Konner Chevrolet in Paramus, NJ. from 1966 to 1970. He remembered that Konner's received a delivery of five 427/425 hp Chevelles from the factory. One TH400 and four 4sp cars. He also stated that all five sold by the end of the week for about $3500.00.

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JoeC:
You wouldn't to have his phone#, would you? I'm pretty sure Mr. Stubbs isn't the original owner, but this is the last known owner. Copo Connection, stated that there were only two dealers, near him. N.J. DMV, only kept record for 10 years, and being this car was last registerd in 1973, they couldn't help. I'll keep checking, so far, nothing uncoverd.

MIKE https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/burnout.gif

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Mike - I found a web site for Malcolm Konner Dodge in NJ. It appears to be the same family. I also found this on the web site "In 1986, as a tribute to Malcolm Konner's dedication and influence, Chevrolet Motor Division manufactured 50 special "MALCOLM KONNER COMMEMORATIVE EDITION" Corvettes."
http://www.dodge23.com/welcome.html

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Just last night, I hit the jackpot myself.

Using a name I pulled off a photocopy of a Polaroid of the P-O-P for my 67 Yenko, I contacted the original owner on the first attempt. As in turns out, the original owner lives 3-4 miles from the address listed on the P-O-P, near Madison WI. His name (Gregg spelled with two g's) made it easy to find him in the telephone listings. Total research time: about 30 minutes.

What a blast! Prior to this phone call, I don't think we knew anything about the car before 1990.

I got to confirm what kind of badging was used on the car (no YSC emblems, only the 427 badge on the fenders like in the Span Inc photo -- plus something on the hood he can't quite remember), the correct spare (Charley, you might be getting your SpaceSaver back https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif), how fast it ran (low 11's with slicks), and more. He promised to try to find some original photos which, unfortunately, his ex might have. Been there, done that.

So now I want to trace it forward from the original owner. He sold it a couple of years later to a local mechanic/racer who drag raced out of Union Grove in the early 70's. His nickname was "Coke Bottles" because of the thick glasses. Any of you 'old guys' remember who this might be?

I'm thinking maybe it would be nice to reunite the original owner with the car at the SuperCar reunion, and maybe see if it still runs as hard as it used to. That'll give the trailer queens a conniption fit, don't you think? https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/burnout.gif

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Some of the posts indicate that titles searches were done in NJ. It is my understanding that NJ will not perform a title search from a VIN.

If I am wrong please let me know how to have one done.
Thanks

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MikeA:
When Ed tried to find all prevous owner, to my COPO. NJ DMV, sent the money back, and stated that they only keeped records for 10 years. Being that my car was last registerd in 1973, and plates weren't keeped on it, they had No record of this car.

We have called Mr. Thomas A. Stubbs, but got an answering machine. So, as soon as we get in touch with the first gentleman, we will try the others, given to me.

regards, MIKE https://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

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I'll tell you what...looking previous owners names up in internet white pages is a blessing...I found the person who turns out to be the 2nd. owner of my car and he bought it from the original owner.I am now in contact.This is great..lots of info to come out of this .