A Nicky Camaro In NJ
 

My friend just told me that Future classics has a Nicky Camaro . It's on rt 88 in Lakwood NJ . Anyone know the car ?

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Isn't that the same place that used to be called Golden State Classics? If so I would not hold my breath on it being real..............RatPack...............

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I checked this 67 Nickey out on their website and the car looks really good. I would be curious to see what they have for documentaion.........RatPack.................

I don't know how to make the link clickable but here it is: <A HREF="http://www.futureclassicsnj.com

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I called on the car. Was told it was a real Nickey. Price was $50,000, and Of course there is no paperwork?? But if I gave him my phone number, he would have the owner call me who could prove to me it is a real Nickey?? I did just to see what kind of story they would come up with. No call was ever returned to me; just as I expected.

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Does any one know the official accepted number of currently documented Nicky built Super Cars?

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Hey sixtiesmuscle maybe you can answer that question. Also do you have any info on the 67 Nickey in NJ?

Stefano: lets see from what I remember there are 3 - 67 Camaro's (Tahoe Turquoise, Emerald Turquoise, and Bolero Red with a black vinyl top), a 67 Chevelle, a 69 L78 Chevelle in Maroon, a 69 Camaro Z/28 in Hugger Orange, possibly one 68 Camaro, and I have heard of two more Camaro's, one being a second gen with an L-88. I must not forget the 2 - 73 Novas that are out there. Kevin has an old drag car 69 Z-28 that has an L88 in it that the original MSO was Nickey (one badass car!). That comes to approx 12 that may exist. I may have missed one or two, sorry if I did............RatPack...........

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I spoke with the owner about a month ago. He bought it a couple of years ago from that "slick Nick" guy that has been discussed here before, as a replica. There were NO docs then, and, NO docs now. He put the engine & dual quads in to make it look like the Bill Thomas test car in all the articles. It has incorrect traction bars, and no sign of ever having an electric fuel pump. Not conclusive, but, pretty telling for a real car.
It is a very nice car, for $30K maybe, as a "replica" the way HE bought it.
The orange '69 is a "questionable" car. I'm being generous at that. I'll try to talk to the guy who ran the Hi-Po department to see what he recalls about numbers.


[Edited by sixtiesmuscle (12-30-2001 at 09:56 PM).]

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A fellow about a year ago drove up to Super Car Workshop to check out Joe's Harrell Chevelle. He said that he was working on a Nickey Camaro and felt that since Dick Harrell was involved with Nickey that the engine detail from Joe's car would be a close reference. I told him OK. After taking a ton of pictures, he told me that the car he was working on was most likley NOT a real car but he liked it very much. He had no documents. I am certain that he was from Jersery and had purchased the car from Golden Classics?. If someone has a name it may ring a bell. We found out after we helped the guy out it was a BS car. Could this be the same car?...BKH

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I've seen a "supposedly real" Nickey 1967 Camaro here in NJ at a local car show. It was burgundy with a black interior. I'm no expert but I highly doubt that it is authentic. Some older guy was there with the car and he didn't know much about it. As far as Golden Clasics goes, it seems that everyone here already knows that they sell questionable cars at outrageous prices.

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Must be the same car as the one they have for sale is Burgandy with a black interior..............RatPack............

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Two years ago at the spring Chevy/Vettefest
a fellow showed his 1967 Nickey Camaro that he purchased new. It was well documented and in good shape. The thing that caught my attention was that is had a 1968 L71 Corvette motor in it. Low rise intake, temp senders on heads and all on a 1967 Camaro.
I spoke with him for a long time and finally asked him why a 68 engine in a 67 car. As the paperwork showed, he purchased the car in late September of 1967 and Nickey had a row of new 1968 model engines to choose from. The new low rise 1968 tri-power intake could fit under the hood and he chose that engine. I know that I would have questioned this on an undocumented car that had been through the mill but here was a logical explination as to why the car was delivered that way. The engine was painted yellow also.

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Rat_Pack,
Great info.

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Tim G,

I've heard a few conflicting reports on this car if it's the same one that was at the most recent Chevy Vette Fest in Nov. of 2001. Anyone know this car?

[Edited by COPO (12-31-2001 at 03:10 PM).]

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A friend just talked to the guys at Future Classics and they say it is a "Nickey" car but cannot guarantee it. No proof but said if it was documented it would bring $100k. Price is $40k right now.............RatPack..........

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The car at Vettefest has been around a long time.Rather an elusive fellow.There were sure a lot of trophies around it.......!!!

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I saw the documentation on that so called Nickey car at the Vette Fest.It seemed alittle BOGUS to me.BP

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The blue car is VERY questionable, original owner/paperwork and all. If you're willing to lie, and, have the patience to make up some documents, you can fake almost anything. Again, the absence of correct, Bill Thomas, traction bars and electric fuel pump, especially on a L71 car, is a pretty good clue. The yellow engine thing means NOTHING. Nickey didn't paint their engines yellow as a practice. The only one I've seen that is a sure thing was the one in the Bill Thomas test car. I don't believe they painted them yellow as a rule on the west coast either.

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There is a 1966 Nickey 427/425 4-speed Impala in northwestern Ohio.It is black with a black bench seat interior.

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I am fairly certain that the car that the gentleman was working on was Burgandy. Beware!!...BKH

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Welcome 68IMP. There are lots of cars that were sold at Nickey. It was a very large dealership. The '66-69 "big cars" with L72s were available as RPO cars so they weren't that unusual. Neat for sure. Just not a COPO or 427 transplant car. That said, is it for sale, and, what's the number???

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Haven't been to the Chevy/Vettefest in a few years, but do recall a turquoise Nickey Camaro w/a yellow block in the Chicago area.

First saw this car at a show at a drive-in theater in Waukegan around '82, or so. It was later traded to an area service station owner for a '66 427/425 'Vette. Subsequently, it was owned by a fairly noted local auto painter. Don't know the car's current whereabouts.

Not positive that this car is legit, but it was always rep'd as a Nickey even before it mattered all that much. Oh, and the body shop guy was (and probably still is) a reasonably thorough individual and I doubt he'd have stepped up if it wasn't the real deal.

Oh, and did I mention that the block was yellow?

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Tenney, check out the pictures from this years reunion and look at Jim Pearse's 67 Nickey. It is Emerald Turquoise, he has a business that is body shop related, and the engine is Yellow! Check it out, it is an old hot rod, fat tires, American Torque Thrusts, traction bars, etc. Oh yeah, the car is unrestored with original paint...........RatPack.....................

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Thanks, Rat Pack. The car looks familiar and the name rings a bell. Good to see (and not surprised) that it has been well-preserved.

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68imp, the car in NW Ohio is from a Toledo suburb. The owner, can't remember his name, is the service manager at a import car dealer in Sylvania, OH. The car is a 427 but is not a Nickey. The owner told me that he bought the Nickey decals at a Super Chevy event. He never represents the car as a Nickey. The car is super nice a real joy to look at.

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If I remember correctly Jim's 67 Nickey was sold with a L88 and still has 350 emblems on the fenders. The block is painted yellow and I have heard of other Nickey cars that were sold with yellow painted motors. I made a note from an article on the Nickey cars that stated there were about 300 427 transplant cars sold between 1967 and 1969. The article stated Nickey was owned by Edward and John Stephani. I do not know if this info is correct but the writer seemed to know about the Nickey dealership.

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Rat_Pack or anyone else, is anything more known about the L-88/second gen Camaro?

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Not much known other than what was printed in the dealer brochure from Nickey. Cars could have been ordered with anything from a 350 - 454. Only one person in the US can identify a Nickey car and from what I am told it is very hard and expensive..............RatPack..........

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I have an ad showing that 2nd gen Nickey. Looks to have wheel flares and If I remember correctly, it was an RS sans the bumpers. And as stated above was available with numerous engine options. I wonder if they made a few w/ these body mods.
-Mark

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What year is the ad, and, can you post it?

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L72copo,sorry for the misinformation.But I do recall seeing ``Nickey built 427 Impala``next to a photo of the car a few years back in Super Chevy.Awesome car though with the black paint,small hub caps,blackwall tires.Sort of a ``Dirty Mary crazy Larry``special but with two doors instead of four.

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I wanted to respond to these posts since I own the car that everyone is talking about. I did buy the car from Nick at Golden Classics and have dealt with him the past. I have always been very happy with the cars I have bought and was shocked to read the postings that the cars he sells may be questionable.

When I purchased the car it was conveyed to me as an excellent replica, possibly an original. I have been able to trace the heritage back to the original title that was held in Chicago. With all the original parts in it that are unreplacablely Nicky and the origin being Chicago, we are sure it is an original. Without the paper work to back it up, we are selling it as an Excellent Replica. The price is very reasonable, particularly if it turns out to be an original down the road, when we all know they can go for over $100,000.00.

Please feel free to email me back with any further questions regarding the car.

HLZ

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This is a good place to justify why you think it is a real Nickey. What parts are "unreplaceably Nicky"?

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"the cars he sells may be questionable" !?!?!?

The cars he sells are unquestionably some of the worst fakes/clones/scams that exist in the market. It's kind of fun to go there and listen to the salespeople impress prospective buyers with their infinite knowledge, want to go for a daytrip MikeA??
M

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when ya guys goin ? mabe we can hit up a local GoGo Bar ?

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I have been visiting this site for several months and I have to respond to all this dealership bashing and bitching. This makes me sick to see a great site like this go to the toilet because of a bunch of guys who seem to have it out for one particular dealer. Why? What about all the other classic car dealers in the USA? I have seen some real over priced junk at some of these other places. Mike A, when was the last time you were at that dealer? A lot of the cars they have there now are killer! Are you jealous of the cars they have? What about the rest of you? Are you all talking from experience or just from "what you heard"? Not everyone can afford a $100,000 supercar. Mike, I see you own a mid to later 70's NOVA, not even a car from the best era of the muscle cars. Looks like a nice car, but its what you can afford. THATS THE POINT! Buy what you can afford! I'd love to buy a real nice true Yenko, but I can't. I'll take a clone for $35,000, if it is everything a real Yenko is for a third of the price just because it wasn't built by Don Yenko himself. I went to the very dealer you are questioning today after reading these postings on this Nickey Camaro and I have never seen a collection of cars like this at any other classic car shop anywhere around here. I have visited many shops in New Jersey, Maryland, Ohio, CT, FL, etc. Those guys really get some of the best cars I have ever seen! They have had a few clones there, but I have never been mislead that they were real. They had told me straight out that the Nickey was a replica and thats how it was to be sold. They also told me what this gentleman was saying about researching the past on this car. HELLO PEOPLE, they only can tell you what information that owners of the cars tell them! I also remember a few cars they took to Atlantic City last year. Yes, one was a Yenko Clone and the other was a ZL1 replica. If the guy there did not tell me they were clones, I would have never known. He was truthful and stated that they were replica's, and very well built. Again, no problems, no lies. The amount of CLEAN frame off cars in one location was impressive. Sure, they have some not so restored cars, but again, they truthfully told me about them and never tried to do me wrong. Before you all start to bad mouth a business, go there and see for yourself like I did. I wanted to post something a few days ago, but I wanted to see with my own eyes how they operated and what quality of cars they had in stock first hand, knowing what was said here. I would think that if the rest of you did the same, you will see high quality cars with people who are honest about the product they sell. Take my comments for what you will, but I at least can gather my own opinions on fact from a dealer that treated me, with respect and honesty. Thank you for the forum to express my thoughts. Jon

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Muscle Car Jon,

Here is one example of Golden Classic's "representations." Take a look at the photos and then talk to this guy or email him. he will tell you all about his experience. Copy the url and paste it into your url window, or someone help me make this a clickable link...

http://www.cars-on-line.com/68chev5581.html

This is not just misrepresentation it is illegal...

JB

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I have seen this 68 Z28 guy all over the internet and he placed an ad in the local paper in New Jersey. I question the sanity of a guy who would risk slander charges. Where's the proof that the dealership did it? Did this guy ever talk to the actual owner of the car, before or after the car was bought? Did he have someone check the car out for him before spending big money on a car across the country from him. Sounds stupid to spend $20-30k on a car without getting an outside person to look at it if he didn't want to fly out to see the car. What's a few hundred when you are ready to spend thousands? I've driven 20 hours to Florida to see cars I wanted to buy, and they were only in the $12,000 range. What about factory defects? I suppose you have never seen a double stamping, badly aligned stampings, or casting slag on a block? These things are mass production, errors do happen. There is a website Camaros.net or .org that brings this very subject up. You have seen the pictures, you would have to pull an engine, remove the head, & deck the motor to get the block that smooth, just to restamp the numbers? Seems like a lot of work to get an extra buck from a car that had all the right date codes already on the engine? Did the dealer recast the engine to make those right too? Maybe the shop who built the motor when it was first restored wanted to put the original numbers back on the motor after it was machined, and just didn't do a perfect job? I feel sorry for the guy if he is not happy with his car, but look at the pictures... THAT CAR IS NICE! I used to run a shop for two years and left after all the BS that customers come up with. Maybe I am playing Devils Advocate, but I know what its like to be on the other side of false accusations. I stress that everyone who wants to comment on the dealership Future Classics, or any other dealer for that matter, should do what I did and visit them, see the cars, and talk with the people who work there and then come to your own conclusions on personal facts like I did. Again, I thank you for letting me speak my mind. God Bless America - Jon

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So I'm not the only one here who has a late model Nova ? That's great! But I don't see what that has to do with misrepresenting a supercar. Looking just at the posts here, we see that callers to the Golden classics dealership are being told that a car is genuine. Then we find out from the car's owner that he is not sure that it is real. Try to defend this conduct all that you want, it is free speech, fine. But you have an uphill battle. Also, I do not think that this site is going into the toilet, quite the opposite, it is steadily improving.

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Jon.....From the pics it is very obvious that the engine and trans are VERY bad restamps. I believe the car was represented as #'s matching ? The Dealer has a License. There are Conducts he is supposed to abide by. People buy things long distance without going to look at them by going on another persons word. Apparently the Buyer relied on the Dealers word. If it was sold as a #'s matching car and is not, the Dealer either Misled the buyer or didn't know what he was selling. He should have taken the car back. Regardless of the condition of the car , there is a BIG difference in value if the components are restamps.

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Jon;
I have visited 'Golden Classics', so don't act like you are the only one who has been there.

They sell sh$t, plain and simple.

My wife and I watched while they lied to a young guy and his family about a '71 BB Chevelle. When I told him where to look on the block for the stampings, Nick pulled me out of there to look at a bunch of '69 Z's - wow none of them were X33's or X77's, but they were all painted non-original huggar orange and daytona yellow and represented to me as frame off correct resto cars! Is this how a dealer should act? Obviously not, since he has been sued numerous times.

If you couldn't tell that their Yenko and ZL1 was a replica, then you need to do some homework on what to look for.
M