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The blue Yenko is the 'future' Otis Chandler car. Check out the sport mirrors, and the original owner silver Yenko with the '70's style bolt-on stuff. Love the chin spoiler, and antenna!! Will find out when and where this photos was taken.

Marlin

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Another pic!!

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Original owner pic when he still owned it when in Pennsylvania, he went to Ohio to buy it new!!

Very Cool!!

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How did this car get from Ohio to CA?

Original owner who lived in PA bought the car over in Ohio new. He then advertised the car in Hemmings around '78-'79, R.Smith from CT came and bought it.

(Smith was looking for one to replace the Gobi Beige Yenko Nova he bought new in '70 at W.R.Austin, because he had traded it in at a Chevy dealership in TN in '73.)

Smith sold the blue car to fellow CT guy 'Alan' in '81, who offered it to a local guy in '87. Local guy already had a Forest Green one from Bresee Chev, Syracuse, NY so he passed. Another local guy passed as well since he had a Fathom Blue Yenko Nova from Scuncio Chev, RI.

Greg Joseph in CA purchased the car soon after for the Otis Chandler collection.

CT was/is an active state for Yenko cars, much more so than most people think!!

Marlin

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Marlin, Nice pics! I met the guy with the Blue Deuce from Scuncio at a cruz nite here in CT. He was in the process of getting a computer at that time. Do you have an e-mail address for him?

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JoeC;
Don't have his email address, but will email you his phone number.
M

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marlin,nice photo's!seen the car circa 1987,
beautiful car!!! great job with the pics!!!
another i should have bought that one!

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Thanks John,
I sent the guy who just bought this car to the Scuncio Yenko via phone number, he knew 'R Smith' and the photos and history started coming!!

I called another Yenko Nova in the Eastern TN area to check out this 'Gobi Yenko Nova traded in' story. He remembers the car back in the early to mid 70's, but has not seen it since then. He will keep an eye out.

Amazing how these cars got around the country so early in their lives. We don't yet know how yours got from Syracuse to Norwalk by '74-75.

Marlin

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FYI;
I should correct my prior post, Yenko did not actually change the wheels - he subcontracted that out to a tire shop that was across the street from the dealership. The tire shop is now under new owners, and they rent the back half of the original Yenko dealership. Their office is Don's old Dyno Room!!
Marlin

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Marlin, Did the Deuce use any SS Nova parts?
The grill looks like it has the silver grid patern like a non SS Nova.

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The '70 Yenko Nova did not use any Super Sport parts. They had a plain grille, hood, and taillight panel, as well as a plain steering wheel. These are generally the only parts standard on an SS Nova.

SS Novas did not have buckets, tach dash, clock, console, custom interior, rear sway bars, ect. as standard equipment. The only questionable item would be the F41 package. The '70 Yenko Novas received the rear sway bar as part of the F41 package, but this was not standard on the Super Sports. The literature that I have says that the SS option was required to get the F41 package, but that has not been verified. Either way, the Yenkos received the F41 as part of the COPO 9737 option, (not an SS option), which had a different recipe for '70 vs. '68 & '69, (like 15 inch rallye's for eg.).

The Yenko Novas were not ordered with the 300HP 350 engine as some people have published. This would generally require the SS package, although I have met some who claim they have a 300HP non-SS Nova. The Yenkos were ordered with the L65, 265HP 350 engine - which was a non-SS engine.
Marlin

[Edited by YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY (10-09-2000 at 01:50 PM).]

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M,
What about the Gobi Beige Deuce with all the style trim from new. Is that the only known screw up Deuce...
BKH

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BKH:

At this time, that is the only known deuce that came with the exterior decor package and window moldings, neither of these are specific to an SS though. This car appears to be a factory mixup. It was initially thought that during the course of a 'modified' restoration by a prior owner, these options were added to this car. However, after receiving a photo from the original owner while the car was still Gobi, the options and emblem placement were evident.

A second note, one original owner deuce in NH has a FG, A/T, P/S, car that came with an SS tail panel, only. It is believed that the car was probably damaged on the lot, and it was cheaper to slap on the SS panel than it was to repair it.

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M

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marlin,what about the yenko crest
emblem placement on the 70 novas?
did some of the early cars have
them placed above like some of
the early camaros?it seems anything
is possible ,just as the placement of
stripes probably varied from car to car!

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marlin,i see trim rings on car
from original owner pic.is it correct
to say all 70 yenko novas came dechromed.
reggie j. nova in super chevy mag(1982)
showed rings on car.just thought i would
mention it if others were unsure.you never
know what is possible with anything!

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It is commonly believed that the '70 Yenko Novas did not come with trim rings. This is not to say that some of the demo cars didn't get them, because they seemed to have more options than the non-demo cars.

These cars came from GM with the painted 14x7 'XT' coded wheels, and a 'dog cap' hubcap. Yenko changed 4, (not 5, the spare is still an 'XT'), of the wheels to a Magnum 500 Custom version, (not the Deluxe-they had the chrome spoke overlays). Yenko reinstalled the Uniroyal Tiger Paw white-wall tires onto the Magnum rims.

Yenko brochures do not say anything about the trim rings, and no original owners ever remember having them on their cars. This is probably because Yenko did not purchase the wheels from GM, he bought them right from Kelsey-Hayes/Motorwheel and did not want to incur the extra expense of the rings.

The 'Y' centercap also came from Motorwheel, and is actually just a decal that covers the original 'Magnum 500' plastic insert, they do not say 'SS' underneath.

Marlin

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John;

Other than the dressed up Gobi car, all '70 Yenko Novas had the YENKO crest emblems placed below the NOVA emblem on the front fenders.

The rear decklid 'NOVA by Chevrolet' emblem was removed, and the YENKO crest emblem put in it's place. There were some cars that had their emblems removed, (stolen), while on dealer's lots. One original owner insisted that Yenko put on some new ones. Another original owner didn't know it was supposed to have emblems since the holes on the decklid were covered by that dealer's own sticker; 'WALLACE CHEV'.

Will add picture later,
Marlin

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Marlin, Help, I don't know much about the '70 Novas. I always thought cars came with LT-1's (factory installed) and you say they were ordered as L65's. Were the cars just standard Novas with stripe packages or was the engine different? Thanks

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Marlin,
That is so cool! I see the "Body Craft" Camaro at least once a month. I hope that you will be able to attend our "Muscle Car Show and Go" next season. I would love to see any member of the club there. Andrew

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Marlin, Two points, First: Is Wallace Chevrolet still in buisness? The store is/was only about 20 miles from my home. It is/was in Linden, New Jersey. If I can gather any info for you let me know. I will ask around at the track and see if any of the racers know any of the techs who worked there. Sometimes life is so ironic, I bought a suit last week from a gentleman who was the sales manager in charge of high performance cars at Briggs Chevrolet in South Amboy, New Jersey. He shared some interesting history with me. I thought that it was very cool because he told me that many previous stories that I was told (at the track) were embelished folk lore. People love to add on their own ideas and theories and then pass them along as the "honest to God truth". Point 2: If I may I would like to "throw in" this bid of first hand info. I am restoring a '65 Chevelle Malibu (non SS) and I just had a argument over my grill with my "expert" Chevelle buddy. The car has a black trim on the grill which is part of the "SS" package. The "expert" told me that "the grill had to have been installed by someone later because it was a "SS" only part. My parents bought the car new in '65 and the car is ALL original, never been hit,never been repaired, never been anything. He said that this was not possible but my parents have pictures of the car new and it is real. I share this to add to the argument that Chevrolet did not always follow the same procedures.
Andrew

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Andrew: To my knowledge Wallace Chev. is no longer in business. The first owner of this eg. car is none other than BodyCraft F/SA '68 Camaro, 327/275hp racecar owner. You will probably know him without me posting his name.

COPO69: You are correct, the LT1 came factory installed in the '70 Yenko Novas. However, when Don was ordering them, he spec'd out the L65 with an M20, and then in the special instructions section of the order form wrote in COPO 9010. This COPO superceded the L65/M20 with the LT1 and an M21. This is how Don got the LT1 into a non-SS body, he originally spec'd a non-SS V8 engine. Quite ingenious!!

The other goodies came along with the 9737 COPO, but without a build order for '70 we cannot tell exactly what it contained.

Marlin

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Marlin, Have any original underhood pics of a Duece been found? Did the cars have decals on the air filter lid? I'm wondering what HP rating was used since the 70 Camaro LT1 used 360HP and the 70 LT1 Corvette used 370HP. Or was there no HP decal? Also did the Deuce use a special code 4:10 rear?

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From what I have seen of original decals the HP rating has been cut off by Yenko...
BKH

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joe& brian,another good topic i would like to know about! i remember possibly seeing a
full decal on air cleaner,this was around 1979 though.i can check with gentlemen i bought car from.he purchased it from reilly's
used car sales,bridgeport ct.(1975)joe,does that ring a bell?marlin,did they cut hp off to sandbag a little!!

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Reilly's used car sales, Bridgeport Ct. does ring a bell. Do you ever attend the Marcus Dairy cruz nites? I saw the Yenko Duece from Scuncio there. The Stafford Springs swap meet is this weekend. Nice to see someone from CT here. The Yenko air filter decals are an interesting topic. The original pictures of the Yenko Chevelle in SS magazine shows no decals. I have seen original pics that show the 427 decal on a Yenko Camaro but have not seen original Deuce under hood pics.
Many restored cars use the 427 and the 450 HP decal but I don't think the 450 HP decal was made by Chevy until the 1970 LS6 was released. Unless Yenko made his own 450 HP decal. Anyone know of any original COPO/Yenko under hood pics that show the 450HP decal?

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Joe, I believe the 450hp decal was used for a short while on early '66 L-72 Corvettes and later that year they went to the 425 hp rating.

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COPO is right on the money. The 1966 L-72 Corvettes were rated at 450 horsepower for the first several weeks of production. The change from 450 to 425 horsepower was made to the air cleaner decal only; there were no changes made to the engine.

Regards,

Stan

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joe,thanks for the reply!!!maybe with the insurance hoopla from the 69 camaros, yenko wanted to keep a low profile with the 70 nova?i wish i had a camera in my hand scraping that decal off!the more i think about it could have very well have been left off.marlin,the 10hp difference being in exhaust systems between the camaros&vettes?also i remember seeing john wargo's gobi beige deuce in musclecar review with optional vette air cleaner with full decal.can you shed any light on this! i need more aspirin!!!
thanks!

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Was the 1966 450hp decal the same as the 1970 450hp decal?

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Joe,

Yes, the designs were the same. However, as with most reproductions, there are subtle differences which are apparent when viewed side by side with an original.

Regards,

Stan

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The original pics of the 68 Yenko Camaro in the MCR Don Y. interview show just the 427 emblem on the air filter lid. Still have not figured out those pics taken by the water with the palm trees. Maybe somthing to do with the Yenko/Dana deal Don mentions in the interview.

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I have seen the Gobi Beige Deuce in person and it is awsome... The hot rod type parts were ordered through Yenko in the Stinger Stuff catalog. My Yenko Camaro has a bunch of the speed parts from Yenko installed. The SSDI from July 69 clearly shows no 450 HP decal on the lid.
BKH

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This post has grown over the past several days. I was busy painting my Yenko, just now coming down from the fumes!!

John: The '70 Yenkos reportedly had the horsepower rating section of the air cleaner decal cut off with a razor blade. There are some air cleaners with knife marks on them. I have a pic of an original air cleaner that was found in the trunk - Wallace Deuce- with not HP section. Yenko cut off the HP number to keep the insurance guys from ruining his COPO sales like they did in '69.

The 10 HP difference between the Corvette vs. the Camaro was the exhaust manifolds, there was no difference in the actual engines.

The Gobi Beige Yenko in PA has many items on it that did not come from GM, but John purchased them from Yenko through the Stinger Stuff Catalog. This is truly a unique situation, where an original owner car actually purchased additional items from Yenko and installed them on his Yenko Nova. John kept all of the original items that he took off, including the wheels, spare ect. This car is considered to be the premier Yenko Deuce existing at this time by those that have seen it, it is an excellent combination of originality, low mileage, orig. owner, Yenko speed parts, funky color, and a really nice knowledgeable owner!
M

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Sorry to back track guys but the NCRS printed a copy of an internal Chevrolet memo from 1965 that indicates that the factory changed the 450hp to 425hp and the 400hp to 390hp before they actually rolled off the line. Has anyone ever seen a Turbo Jet 400 (non tri decal) ?
We always see the 450hp though. Makes you think.

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GMH454,

Yes, I've seen one 1966 Corvette with the 400hp air cleaner label that you refer to. I seem to remember that the car was a red coupe, but that's about it - afraid my taste runs toward the 1968-1972 Corvettes so I tend to spend more time with those cars. That 400hp label was different enough that it caught my attention though.

The copy of the change order printed in the NCRS Restorer magazine that you refer to was a neat piece! I was aware of the change in rated horsepower (label change), but that was the first time I had ever seen the documentation.

Regards,

Stan

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Stan, that is one of the more amazing things I have read here. Just when you start to think the world is round this happens. Was it in the same style as the 390hp decals ?
I wonder if it got removed when someone "restored" the car. Where was your camera when you really needed it. Thanks for the info I stand corrected.

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A friend of mine worked on the line in Oshawa in '66 and he claims the first L72 full sized Chevys had the 450 hp decals. After a short time the 425 hp decals came out.

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GMH454,

Yes, the L-36 400hp label was the same style as the 390hp version, wrapping around the outside edge of the air cleaner lid. As you mentioned previously, the 450hp label tends to show up on a lot of cars (probably more than it should) currently because a reproduction for 1970 LS-6 Chevelles is readily available. Considering that only a handful of 400hp labeled L-36s were installed in cars and there is no other production application for this label, it isn't too surprising that you never see them.

As far as a photo, I have to admit that I messed up on that one. I carry my camera with me at all the shows I attend, but my interest lies with the 68-72 cars and as a result, I generally don't get into as much detail on the other years. Good lesson though... Film is cheap. I'll be seeing a gentleman in November who has most likely observed the majority of the 400hp labeled cars currently out there; I'll see if I can't get a photograph from him and post it to the board.

I also seem to remember a magazine article that detailed the differences in the original vs. reproduction 450hp labels (might have been the Restorer). I'll see if I can't find that as well.

Regards,

Stan

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Were the twin sport mirrors offered on the Yenko Deuce chrome or black. In either case were there exceptions to the rule? Also were any Deuces made with "hood pins" or "hood locks"?

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Mike;
To our knowledge, there were no Yenko Novas with hood pins or locks. The twin sport mirrors were black, and were most likely the Hurst/Olds mirrors. Yenko and Hurst were connected on this project, so it is understandable that Yenko would install Hurst's speed parts. There is one car that has sport mirrors, but it appears to have only received one!
M