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69W314spd 02-06-2025 02:24 AM

1969 nova questions
 
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I've Recently purchased a 69 nova 4 speed car that i believe was a big block four speed car and possibly and L78 originally.

69 69 cortez silver 731 interior, no gauges

Some identifiers the car has are as follows

Correct big block core support

Correct cross member

Single 3/8th fuel line (11427 car not a 6cyl as they also came with single fuel line no return)

ZD code radiator (big block 4sp Radiator)

Correct power brake booster and 69 calipers with single groove rotors which i believe to be correct.

BS Code 12 bolt (3.31 posi) 1207G1 date

Correct heater box outlet.

837 Alt with 8m19 date code Car is April built

block and transmission are out of a 1966 Chevelle EF code (360hp 4 speed)

No paperwork, car was sold new at oaklanddon Chevrolet in Indianapolis according to ncrs and its official build date was 4/16/1969.

My question is about the driveshaft stripe color, i believe that the drive shaft is original to the car and has what i believe to be an orange, blue and white stripe and was curious of what this could mean as i dont have build sheet.

Pics attached

racerkvn 02-06-2025 01:39 PM

That's a good looking Nova :beers:

napa68 02-06-2025 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by racerkvn (Post 1665838)
That's a good looking Nova :beers:

This^^^^^

Mr.Nickey Nova 02-06-2025 03:07 PM

Very nice Nova you have. Check the date code on those rotors, 69 Novas should have the two-piece style rotors. The reason I say this is, I have a Jan. built 70 BB Nova that still retains the original two-piece rotors. I believe they started the one-piece rotors during later production of 1970. Love the color, keep the pics coming.

Keith Seymore 02-06-2025 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 69W314spd (Post 1665826)

My question is about the driveshaft stripe color, i believe that the drive shaft is original to the car and has what i believe to be an orange, blue and white stripe and was curious of what this could mean as i dont have build sheet.

Maybe you already know this, based on your question, but the stripes correspond to the part number for this specific application.

Each of the various driveshaft part numbers would have a different stripe color or configuration in order for the installer to quickly identify the right part, as called out on the build sheet. The stripe colors were used in lieu of a broadcast/pick code. You may recognize Broadcast/pick codes as used on other components like engines (ie, "TAB or TAC", etc), transmissions, rear axles, radiators; Any place where there was quite a bit of part number proliferation.

I do not know the specific part number your colors represent, if that is what you are asking.

I do have one page of a chart for Chevy pickups, to give you a flavor of what the part release looks like (attached).

The stripes were added by the component supplier (Parma, or Dana, or whomever) right after balancing. While the part was still chucked up it was turned by hand and the brush held near enough to slop some paint on the tube.

K

69W314spd 02-07-2025 12:25 AM

the car does retain its two piece rotors

69W314spd 02-07-2025 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 1665852)
Maybe you already know this, based on your question, but the stripes correspond to the part number for this specific application.

Each of the various driveshaft part numbers would have a different stripe color or configuration in order for the installer to quickly identify the right part, as called out on the build sheet. The stripe colors were used in lieu of a broadcast/pick code. You may recognize Broadcast/pick codes as used on other components like engines (ie, "TAB or TAC", etc), transmissions, rear axles, radiators; Any place where there was quite a bit of part number proliferation.

I do not know the specific part number your colors represent, if that is what you are asking.

I do have one page of a chart for Chevy pickups, to give you a flavor of what the part release looks like (attached).

The stripes were added by the component supplier (Parma, or Dana, or whomever) right after balancing. While the part was still chucked up it was turned by hand and the brush held near enough to slop some paint on the tube.

Again - I apologize if I am telling you something you already know (and not telling you what it is you wanted to know).

K

this is great info and helpful as i come from Oldsmobile's so alot of this is new.

Mr.Nickey Nova 02-07-2025 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 69W314spd (Post 1665878)
the car does retain its two piece rotors

I see now that the driver side has a two-piece rotor, and the passenger side has the one-piece. If you still have the other two-piece rotor and is in good shape, I would reinstall it.:beers:

Zman1969 02-14-2025 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by racerkvn (Post 1665838)
That's a good looking Nova :beers:

I'd be on hunt for a L78

JRSully 02-16-2025 01:46 PM

The default rear gear for an L78 was BT (3:55) and the L34 was BS (3:31) although anything could be ordered. Single fuel line is interesting though... Believe there are some L34's that may have come through with single fuel lines, may be wrong on that

69W314spd 02-16-2025 11:05 PM

I thought the 3.31 was interesting, single fuel line and correct date coded 837 deep groove alt...I've tracked history back to 1973 but it tuns cold after that. anyone could've put the alt on, however the single fuel line had for sure never been off.

69W314spd 02-16-2025 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zman1969 (Post 1666295)
I'd be on hunt for a L78

Id still be interested in finding a documented 68-70 L78 4 speed.

JRSully 02-17-2025 04:44 PM

There always seems to a plentiful supply of orig 69 and 70 Nova L78 blocks on Ebay and Marketplace, keep your VIN handy, you may get lucky.?

69SS350 04-06-2025 10:22 PM

Wonder if the car had the ticking fuel line where the GM fix was to cut the line and put in a rubber hose to stop the noise.

WILMASBOYL78 04-07-2025 09:48 PM

69 BB Nova...
 
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Originally Posted by 69W314spd (Post 1666497)
I thought the 3.31 was interesting, single fuel line and correct date coded 837 deep groove alt...I've tracked history back to 1973 but it tuns cold after that. anyone could've put the alt on, however the single fuel line had for sure never been off.


The 3.31 gear is unusual....assembly date for rear seems a little early for an April car?

Does the rear look like it is original..??

Cortez Silver is a great color...car looks very nice.

lowmile 04-09-2025 12:59 AM

I'm guessing you've already take the top of the back seat out to look for the broadcast sheet.

Nova Research Project 04-11-2025 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 69W314spd (Post 1665826)

My question is about the driveshaft stripe color, i believe that the drive shaft is original to the car and has what i believe to be an orange, blue and white stripe and was curious of what this could mean as i dont have build sheet.

I have been looking at 3rd Gen Nova driveshaft stripes for a while. There are not enough examples to give a definitive conclusion. There are several known stripe patterns.

In 1968 there are seven driveshaft service part numbers and three yoke types with multiple part numbers.

In 1969 there are three driveshaft service part numbers and three yoke types.

In 1970 there are the three 1969 driveshaft service part numbers plus one new one for 1970 plus the three yoke types.

On this site there are reports of three 1969 L78 T. H. 400 (M40) driveshaft combinations. Does this mean there are multiple 4 speed stripe patterns?

The sparse number of broadcast sheets doesn't help.

In theory is there are five driveshaft / yoke combinations:

Nova (exc. T.H. 400) w/3-Spd, P.G., 4-Spd Non SS
Nova (exc. T.H. 400) w/T.H. 350 Non SS
Nova w/2-Dr. (T.H. 350), w/4BC (350)
Nova w/4-Spd. (350, 396) w/special 3-Spd, SS w/4Spd
Nova w/T.H. 400 (396)

None of this helps with the question without more examples.

In 1969 the 4 Speed had an early and late version. Your 69 Nova is late according to the VIN. I would just put back what you found. What you see as white could be pink or tan.

Greg

SeattleCarGuy 04-18-2025 10:26 PM

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for what its worth, here is the original driveline in my documented 24,000 mile '69 L78/M40 Nova before and after I restored it.

Cool Nova! Love the Cortez Silver!

WILMASBOYL78 04-19-2025 01:45 PM

69 Nova...
 
That white L78 car is gorgeous...one of my favorite colors for the Nova.

:beers:

69W314spd 04-20-2025 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WILMASBOYL78 (Post 1669757)
The 3.31 gear is unusual....assembly date for rear seems a little early for an April car?

Does the rear look like it is original..??

Cortez Silver is a great color...car looks very nice.

I don't think the rear has ever been out, car shows 39k and it had it original calipers and all of is Sheetmetal. Correct sending unit as well. December date does seem early for an April car but I've seen it in at least two other cars. It still has the posi traction additive plastic tag on the fill plug,

69W314spd 04-20-2025 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleCarGuy (Post 1670583)
for what its worth, here is the original driveline in my documented 24,000 mile '69 L78/M40 Nova before and after I restored it.

Cool Nova! Love the Cortez Silver!

Thanks for Sharing, still looking for a documented 69 L78 4 speed!

CamarosRus 07-24-2025 07:42 PM

I have your HOOD, in Auburn, WA

RALLY 07-24-2025 10:12 PM

A great looking Nova. Silver is the best. Keep up the nice work and the pictures coming too. Those 396-375 Engines were quick.

69W314spd 07-24-2025 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CamarosRus (Post 1676044)
I have your HOOD, in Auburn, WA

unless you gonna be out this way sometime soon we probably wont be able to get together. still looking for one

SPEEDYB 08-02-2025 05:29 AM

Do you have the original upper radiator mount and fan?
rare parts if orig.


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