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Lynn 12-05-2024 01:26 PM

Another 69 Z on BAT
 
There will be a new flood of 69 Z/28s for sale... real or not, after the hugger orange one sold for $260k.

Here is another hugger orange. You gotta love the pop rivets on the trim tag. Ouch.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...mpaign_2648441

Bill Pritchard 12-05-2024 02:06 PM

And the ubiquitous "CAUTION FAN" decal :thumbsdown:

Derek69SS 12-05-2024 02:48 PM

Pretty seriously thinking of putting mine on there. Mine is a different market completely, but BaT seems to be the place to get all the money out of a car with a cool story.

dykstra 12-05-2024 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynn (Post 1661650)
There will be a new flood of 69 Z/28s for sale... real or not, after the hugger orange one sold for $260k.

Here is another hugger orange. You gotta love the pop rivets on the trim tag. Ouch.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...mpaign_2648441

I was waiting for William to call that one out.

William 12-05-2024 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dykstra (Post 1661660)
I was waiting for William to call that one out.

Yikes I'm getting a rep...

Look no further than the obviously re-stamped block pad. In 30+ years of logging data, do not have a DZ engine final-assembled Saturday, March 8, 1969. For comparison, here's March 7 and March 10th. Con VIN would have been at the oil filter, different stamp font.

I also don't believe a carb dated the second week of February 1968 could be original to a car built 500 days later.

IMHO the body tag has been altered to show a 712 interior. As noted, has been off the car and re-installed with hardware store rivets. Too bad they forgot the RH dash woodgrain included with the Z87 interior option.

Lots of other issues.

Steve Shauger 12-05-2024 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by William (Post 1661666)
Yikes I'm getting a rep...

Look no further than the obviously re-stamped block pad. In 30+ years of logging data, do not have a DZ engine final-assembled Saturday, March 8, 1969. For comparison, here's March 7 and March 10th. Con VIN would have been at the oil filter, different stamp font.

I also don't believe a carb dated the second week of February 1968 could be original to a car built 500 days later.

IMHO the body tag has been altered to show a 712 interior. As noted, has been off the car and re-installed with hardware store rivets. Too bad they forgot the RH dash woodgrain included with the Z87 interior option.

Lots of other issues.

The first things I noticed 711 was changed to 712 and oops forgot woodgrain on PS lower dash. Not much to like IMHO

Crush 12-05-2024 04:52 PM

So you guys thinking 270k on this one? Lol

William 12-05-2024 06:10 PM

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Don't laugh.

Lots of people out there who don't think they need help. The car on the right is a 16k mile completely original survivor.

RPOLS3 12-05-2024 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by William (Post 1661666)
Yikes I'm getting a rep...

.

A good one though - appreciate your insightfulness and knowledge. :beers:

TimG 12-05-2024 06:58 PM

BaT is getting tough in their reserves. A friend has a very rare ‘67 sidepipe 435 horse Corvette convertible for sale and they would only allow a $165,000 reserve. This car is easily worth $100,000 more than that number.

BJCHEV396 12-05-2024 07:34 PM

I think there are more '69 Z28's on the market than Chevrolet produced!

Bill Pritchard 12-05-2024 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BJCHEV396 (Post 1661684)
I think there are more '69 Z28's on the market than Chevrolet produced!

Just like LS6 70 Chevelles.

Richls5 12-05-2024 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by William (Post 1661678)
Don't laugh.

Lots of people out there who don't think they need help. The car on the right is a 16k mile completely original survivor.

That was Paul walkers car so I’m sure people were bidding crazy because of that

Crush 12-05-2024 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TimG (Post 1661681)
BaT is getting tough in their reserves. A friend has a very rare ‘67 sidepipe 435 horse Corvette convertible for sale and they would only allow a $165,000 reserve. This car is easily worth $100,000 more than that number.

They must not be making as much money.

6667ss138 12-05-2024 10:15 PM

The Z seller on BaT sounds like a nice guy that obviously didn't do any homework when he purchased the car "as is" years ago. It's amazing how many people have gotten screwed over the years on many classic muscle cars, in particular 69 Z/28's! It would be interesting to know what he paid for this mess 25 years ago.

Jonesy 12-05-2024 10:20 PM

Its an 06A car so the March engine, even though its a restamp, doesnt fit the build timeline anyway. No way this hits $100K. Too much obvious altered/wrong vs the $260k car

dykstra 12-05-2024 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pritchard (Post 1661686)
Just like LS6 70 Chevelles.

And 435's:dunno:

R68GTO 12-05-2024 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimG (Post 1661681)
BaT is getting tough in their reserves. A friend has a very rare ‘67 sidepipe 435 horse Corvette convertible for sale and they would only allow a $165,000 reserve. This car is easily worth $100,000 more than that number.

I was planning to put my COPO on BaT but they would budge on a $130K reserve, which I wasn't satisfied with. Part of the problem was that they didn't have many BaT comparables to reference. They had a few but those cars were not freshly/correctly restored.

Lynn 12-06-2024 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonesy (Post 1661694)
Its an 06A car so the March engine, even though its a restamp, doesnt fit the build timeline anyway. No way this hits $100K. Too much obvious altered/wrong vs the $260k car

Am I correct in stating the tag COULD be original to the car, assuming the VIN is original to the car (nothing to make me believe otherwise at this point)?
I realize the last car out in June was VIN 664008 and this car is 664654, or about 600 cars after. But, didn't the trim tag go on sometimes a week before the car went to the assembly line and got a VIN assigned?

Just wondering if the tag at least lines up with the car. It does look like a real tag (with the altered interior code).

William 12-06-2024 12:49 PM

IMHO it is an original tag. Whether or not it belongs on that body is yet to be determined.

N664654 was final assembled on or about July 2, 1969. The production order/tag would have been released in June. Later that day, 07A cars started rolling off the line, mixed in with the last few 06A cars.

napa68 12-06-2024 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by R68GTO (Post 1661696)
I was planning to put my COPO on BaT but they would budge on a $130K reserve, which I wasn't satisfied with. Part of the problem was that they didn't have many BaT comparables to reference. They had a few but those cars were not freshly/correctly restored.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimG (Post 1661681)
BaT is getting tough in their reserves. A friend has a very rare ‘67 sidepipe 435 horse Corvette convertible for sale and they would only allow a $165,000 reserve. This car is easily worth $100,000 more than that number.

It would not surprise me to see them go to a no reserve platform in one capacity or another in the future. Or, if was car was offered with reserve, there would be a seller's fee of sort. They have become very independent in the last couple of years.

napa68 12-06-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynn (Post 1661650)
There will be a new flood of 69 Z/28s for sale... real or not, after the hugger orange one sold for $260k.

I can only guess that auction has disillusioned many a 69Z owner thinking that lighting my strike twice. That having been said, they will get an eye opener with the reserve BaT will offer up.

William's post with the 2 cars at each end of the spectrum, shows how hard the pendulum can swing.

Jonesy 12-06-2024 01:52 PM

Last car out in June was 664008, but still some cars with June tags were built into July like this one was. I know of 7 cars built after this 664654 car that all have legit 06A tags, with the latest being 470 cars after.

Also, they had to take the tag off the car to alter the interior code from 711 to 712.

67BelAir427 12-06-2024 04:22 PM

Bat
 
Not a Camaro, but I had my car consigned to BAT. Photos taken, fees paid, and down to finalizing the description. My car had bulletproof documentation to prove it was originally
an L79 car. Honestly described as missing its original engine. No stories or issues. They would not allow me to call it an L79 car. I escalated the matter to a senior manager there who told me that " if a documented Fuelie Corvette was missing its fuel injection then it could no longer be called a Fuelie Corvette". I pointed out that they had no problem describing 6 other L79 cars that had no documentation.

Igosplut 12-06-2024 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pritchard (Post 1661686)
Just like LS6 70 Chevelles.

And 435HP 67 Corvettes.

sixt9rsx33 12-08-2024 12:06 PM

I was going to list my 69 L78 Chevelle on BAT, real engine, rear end car, correctly restored with a missing correct radiator. BAT wanted the reserve at $60K and gave me comps of cars that were not L78, headers automatic. I have since just decided to sale it myself, or enjoy and drive.

dykstra 12-11-2024 10:04 PM

Sold 65K


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