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R68GTO 01-12-2023 12:23 AM

Mecum COPO's - What's your guess?
 
Let's play a little game.....Three COPOs going across the block in the next few days. Each has their own level of attractiveness depending on what you're interested in. What's your guess on high bid (no fees) on each? If you were going to buy one, which one would you pick?

Hugger Orange - matching number motor, unrestored? or older restoration?
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...-copo-camaro/#

Daytona Yellow - low mile restored former race car, correct drivetrain
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t-copo-camaro/

Dover White - Orig. engine, raced from new, unrestored
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t-copo-camaro/

Pro Stock John 01-12-2023 02:03 AM

The orange one had some body work done and paint touched up in the last couple of years right?

I dig the white one.

dykstra 01-12-2023 10:42 AM

I like the white one.:3gears:

1967 4K 01-12-2023 12:36 PM

When Johnnie N. first bought the white race car it had a hole in the hood where the fan had exploded under high engine RPM. He said he wasn’t going to fix it. I wonder if it’s still there.
Hmmm 🤔.

cook_dw 01-12-2023 12:50 PM

HO - $185k

DY - $275k

DW - $245k


Give me the Dover car.

mprice 01-12-2023 01:26 PM

HO- 140 is has been restored years ago
DY- 185
DW- 125

Tracker1 01-12-2023 01:52 PM

Wow those last two posts have quite a gap in estimates - this should be interesting. I hate yellow cars so I am down to the other two and I would be bidding up that white car all night long, I've always loved that car.

cook_dw 01-12-2023 02:21 PM

Mick has a better finger on the pulse. I'm just guessing.

Steve Shauger 01-12-2023 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mprice (Post 1611037)
HO- 140 is has been restored years ago
DY- 185
DW- 125

Mick based recent auction #'s such as the orange RS/SS L78 which brought $181k without docs or without orig drivetrain your # seems low.

I gotta believe these car being COPO's, provenance and being sold prime time should exceed the orange L78.

mprice 01-12-2023 03:16 PM

Steve you make a good point. I also know the Kiss auctions tend to bring the top money and I may be very low. My guesstimates is based on these factors, the white car has great history but there is no mention of original motor and being a race car it is unlikely, on top of that the car appears somewhat rough and chances are the new owner would restore. The yellow car went thru Indy a couple years ago and if memory serves me correctly bid to I think 180ish and the motor numbers had at the very least been restamped (correct me if I am wrong) so prospective buyers are assuming non original motor. The orange car popped up about 5 years ago setting in the field in Colorado with a number of other rare muscle cars, the car at that time had already had an amateur restoration and had the passenger quarter caved in from an accident while pulling it out of the field, in short may be a numbers car but has to be restored for new owner to be satisfied. I hope I am low on all of these especially since I have three in the garage but it seems that at this sale often times jewelry commons higher numbers than authenticity. If any of these three cars aren't the cars I think they are or remember them to be I will apologize now for misrepresenting.

mprice 01-12-2023 03:21 PM

Before everyone jumps on me I just went back and read the ad for the white car again and it does state the original 427/425 horse. I stand corrected and therefore I am low on that car for sure.

Kurt S 01-12-2023 07:42 PM

Hugger Orange - original motor, older restoration, sat outside.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...-copo-camaro/#
124379N644048

Daytona Yellow - low mile restored former race car, correct drivetrain, NOM
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t-copo-camaro/
124379N632994

Dover White - Orig. engine, raced from new, unrestored, low miles
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t-copo-camaro/[/QUOTE]
124379N680286

Condition will matter here. Hard to guess without seeing them.

61 vert 01-12-2023 09:48 PM

Auction price vs. real value.
 
i believe that its hard to establish value based only on auction prices as many cars trade a year or 2 after the auction for less money. Buyers remorse, misrepresented, alchol consumption, etc. I would guess

Hugger orange 145k
Daytona Yellow 170k
Dover white 175k

Dont think that copos are going to be close to Yenko money as some have suggested. Probably still 100k less .

But, its an auction...

61 vert 01-12-2023 09:52 PM

I dont think that "numbers matching " translates to " original to car" or "born with" anymore.

R68GTO 01-12-2023 11:17 PM

Well, two are done...

DY car sold for $220,000 with fees so I think that $198,000 without

DW car bid up to $180K and did not sell.

I think the HO car goes tomorrow.

Oldss 01-12-2023 11:22 PM

I would go for the white car. As I’ve said before, “ I like ‘‘em a little dirty”. $165,000

TimG 01-13-2023 01:04 AM

The white car is my favorite. It has the original window sticker and POP. There’s no makeup on the white car, it’s just an old race car.

cook_dw 01-13-2023 12:37 PM

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Sorry I was under the impression the price listed is what it sold for not including fees. Call me a dummy I guess. I never have to worry about dealing with buy something like that anyways unless I win the lotto tonight.



HO - $185k - Sold For

DY - $275k - Sold For - $220k

DW - $245k - Bid Goes On @ $180k

BARRY 01-13-2023 10:41 PM

1969 copo???
 
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HI lots not right ......The body tag is off the white copo and the hood pic

BARRY 01-13-2023 11:00 PM

Copo trim tag
 
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This is for the orange car

SPEEDYB 01-14-2023 07:55 PM

i'm pretty sure the Hugger orange car was in a Los Angeles collection in the early 90's
before going to the"outdoors" collection.
A client of a friend of mine owned it and he had a drivability problem with it as he drove this car quite a bit, anyway I took it to my Dyno guy and we found a substantial vacuum leak
which turned out to be a crack on the lower side of the intake manifold that leaked into one of the ports, somewhere I have photos of the dyno session, intake getting welded ETC,
The radial tires give it away.

William 01-14-2023 08:09 PM

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Barnum was right

dykstra 01-14-2023 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William (Post 1611312)
Barnum was right

WOW!! Holy Crap!!:hmmm:

bergy 01-14-2023 09:11 PM

We’ll have to consider adding that “prototype” car to the registry ��

PeteLeathersac 01-14-2023 09:16 PM

'

Same as Rebody Challenger thread, are Vins not published ahead to avoid bidders Googling the truth?:confused2:
If Auction groups keep their commissions when misrepresented cars returned to sellers, why would they?:dunno:
:crazy:
~ Pete

Bogus Yenko Prototype VIN 124379N549828 aka 124379N549878 in Barber Appraisal.
Past SYC threads…
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=171498

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1503663

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=116636

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R68GTO 01-14-2023 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R68GTO (Post 1610985)
Let's play a little game.....Three COPOs going across the block in the next few days. Each has their own level of attractiveness depending on what you're interested in. What's your guess on high bid (no fees) on each? If you were going to buy one, which one would you pick?

Hugger Orange - matching number motor, unrestored? or older restoration?
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...-copo-camaro/# $181,500 Sold

Daytona Yellow - low mile restored former race car, correct drivetrain
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t-copo-camaro/ $220,000 Sold

Dover White - Orig. engine, raced from new, unrestored
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-53...t-copo-camaro/

$180,500 Bid goes On

David C. 01-15-2023 10:16 PM

Orange copo had clear coat issues, definitely needed a repaint. Passenger quarter was poorly replaced as the outer wheelhouse was trimmed and not patched along the lip. Did not bother looking any closer but probably also needs drop off repair as well.


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