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turbo69bird 12-07-2022 04:50 AM

Some RACE BIRDS and GOATS!
 
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Thought I’d post some pics of Pontiacs racing heritage.

No special order here just what I have in the order I have it so I don’t lose my place and have duplicates.
I’ll add more as I have time to upload.

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 05:03 AM

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Some more
First pic is from a street race in Long Island NY that was very well set up w classes and all

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 05:11 AM

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I’ll try not to repost the same car unless it was repainted for another season

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 05:14 AM

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Hope you all enjoy these. .

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 05:18 AM

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turbo69bird 12-07-2022 05:25 AM

Post some more tomorrow

TimG 12-07-2022 10:26 AM

Great photos, thank you.

Crush 12-07-2022 12:43 PM

Are you familiar with a black 68 firebird that raced around Detroit in the late 70’s early 80’s?

napa68 12-07-2022 03:42 PM

Keep em coming!

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 07:21 PM

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Are you familiar with a black 68 firebird that raced around Detroit in the late 70’s early 80’s?

any Idea what dealer raced it?
Have some buddies in that area I can ask them as well

I think George delorean may have had a 68 bird w RAV power that raced in the Detroit area but feel like it was mainly street. I know there was a black firebird from engineering that prowled around.

Looked it up and the car I was thinking of was Jim wingers car this what you were thinking of?

Crush 12-07-2022 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo69bird (Post 1607744)
any Idea what dealer raced it?
Have some buddies in that area I can ask them as well

I think George delorean may have had a 68 bird w RAV power that raced in the Detroit area but feel like it was mainly street. I know there was a black firebird from engineering that prowled around.

I believe the car was owned by the Fender brothers. Not sure it was dealer sponsored. Always wanted to buy that car, in fact, still looking for a 68.

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 07:34 PM

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turbo69bird 12-07-2022 08:08 PM

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Decided to add the cover for one being that it was a cover car

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 08:13 PM

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turbo69bird 12-07-2022 08:19 PM

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Some more
Had to add the wagon have ti have a few of those

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 08:29 PM

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Enjoy

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 08:34 PM

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There’ll be a few of Truman’ fields car because it was repainted a few times plus I like Truman and he didn’t get enough press

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 08:41 PM

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turbo69bird 12-07-2022 08:51 PM

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Hope you’re enjoying these.

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 08:59 PM

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turbo69bird 12-07-2022 09:08 PM

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I’m with all the stock restorations out there I feel like it’s good to show what made Pontiacs so special in the first place .

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 09:17 PM

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Many may not know the hatari car Phil montieth and the biondos but they should. There were many hatari cars all winners! Wally’s wallys and more Wally’s .

turbo69bird 12-07-2022 09:29 PM

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Some more have a couple more small folders after this maybe tomorrow. This is like a job

67since67 12-07-2022 09:48 PM

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Love the Tempest wagon too!!

67since67 12-07-2022 10:15 PM

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Jerry Stealy's original "NEMESIS", Taken, I believe, at Eddyville Raceway in Iowa.

I worked for Jerry twice. The first time while he was service manager at Cordes Pontiac in Cedar Falls Iowa. I was also racing against him in AHRA Super Stock. Made for some interesting Monday morning shop banter after a race weekend as we often ended up beside each other in the final round. This Judge was destroyed in a trailering accident and one of the doors is hanging in Jerry's trophy room.

Some of you may have seen Jerry's last Pontiac race car at MCACN, "NEMESIS TWO" Safari wagon, in the Hi Perf Wagon display, now a very fast street car.- Bill W

TimG 12-07-2022 10:26 PM

I remember that wagon, Bill.

R68GTO 12-07-2022 10:53 PM

Great pics of some killer Ponchos - thank you. The front shot of the Blackbird just screams "king of the street".

Xplantdad 12-07-2022 10:55 PM

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Neat pics!



I just talked to Don Breen a few weeks ago. Really nice guy-it's always good to talk to him!


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turbo69bird 12-08-2022 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 67since67 (Post 1607780)
Jerry Stealy's original "NEMESIS", Taken, I believe, at Eddyville Raceway in Iowa.

I worked for Jerry twice. The first time while he was service manager at Cordes Pontiac in Cedar Falls Iowa. I was also racing against him in AHRA Super Stock. Made for some interesting Monday morning shop banter after a race weekend as we often ended up beside each other in the final round. This Judge was destroyed in a trailering accident and one of the doors is hanging in Jerry's trophy room.

Some of you may have seen Jerry's last Pontiac race car at MCACN, "NEMESIS TWO" Safari wagon, in the Hi Perf Wagon display, now a very fast street car.- Bill W

I have pics of nemesis two also
This is one of my favorites , I want to ask him about his trailer it looks like the Stephens Pontiac trailer for my car . Can’t imagine he went out and bought a yellow and black master craft trailer for a carousel red car. But never know I guess, it certainly looks an awful
Lot like Stephens trailer.

turbo69bird 12-08-2022 02:20 AM

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Who would have thought there’d be a more people who knew owners here than on the Pontiac sites lol. Just goes to show how the Pontiac sites are with all original restored (stock) cars Vs race or day 2 cars

Didn’t know this car was shown as mcacn that’s awesome

That scoop on the wagon looks like the same scoop that ended up on nemesis one .

turbo69bird 12-08-2022 03:50 AM

If anyone is reading this thread I need a set of square tube lakewoods for the Stephens 69 car . Mine were black so unrestored would probably be best . Prefer not to have to take out a mortgage if possible ;-)

And a clean 70 body for the pro car I have the drive train but need a clean (rust wise) body nose was glass so don’t need that so much .

67since67 12-08-2022 04:28 AM

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I have pics of nemesis two also
This is one of my favorites , I want to ask him about his trailer it looks like the Stephens Pontiac trailer for my car . Can’t imagine he went out and bought a yellow and black master craft trailer for a carousel red car. But never know I guess, it certainly looks an awful
Lot like Stephens trailer.

I don't remember what Jerry's trailer was for the Judge, it died in that ditch with the car.
In about 1974 we caught a ride in a Cessna over to Elkart IN where Jerry picked up a new motorhome, then across town for a stacked pair of new black Bock Drag Star trailers.

67since67 12-08-2022 05:08 AM

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Who would have thought there’d be a more people who knew owners here than on the Pontiac sites lol. Just goes to show how the Pontiac sites are with all original restored (stock) cars Vs race or day 2 cars

Didn’t know this car was shown as mcacn that’s awesome

That scoop on the wagon looks like the same scoop that ended up on nemesis one .

The top pic was shot at Cedar Falls Raceway sometime in the mid '70's. I believe the drivetrain in this car was the RAIV remove from the totaled Judge. There was actually another yellow Safari wagon (no woodgrain) between Nemesis and Nemesis Two, I don't know why the switch.

Jerry's first race car was a '53 Olds Holliday coupe with a Pontiac engine. Then a '57 Bonneville convert, then '58 and '59 Corvettes, both with Pontiac power.

I worked for Jerry the second time after he moved down the street to become service manager at the Chevy dealer. By that time he was racing a B/S (I believe) 454 '72 Corvette. He finished his career at Mills Chevy in East Moline IL.

Always a tough competitor and class act, Jerry would arrive at the track well prepared and dialed in. Being new to semi-pro racing I learned a lot from Jerry. - Bill W

turbo69bird 12-08-2022 12:08 PM

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The top pic was shot at Cedar Falls Raceway sometime in the mid '70's. I believe the drivetrain in this car was the RAIV remove from the totaled Judge. There was actually another yellow Safari wagon (no woodgrain) between Nemesis and Nemesis Two, I don't know why the switch.

Jerry's first race car was a '53 Olds Holliday coupe with a Pontiac engine. Then a '57 Bonneville convert, then '58 and '59 Corvettes, both with Pontiac power.

I worked for Jerry the second time after he moved down the street to become service manager at the Chevy dealer. By that time he was racing a B/S (I believe) 454 '72 Corvette. He finished his career at Mills Chevy in East Moline IL.

Always a tough competitor and class act, Jerry would arrive at the track well prepared and dialed in. Being new to semi-pro racing I learned a lot from Jerry. - Bill W

His cars especially the orginal GTO were always one of my favorites. I like all kinds of cars not just Pontiacs (although they are my favorites) but I have lots of pics of straight axle vettes (especially love them w Pontiac power) my dad had a 56 d500-1 convertible he raced, then a Dart, then he had a street 69 mustang he still has , then a big block el Camino street car , uncles had vettes and GTOs so we grew up w all makes and usually whatever was fast. I’ve had a lot of cars because I had dealer plates for many years but I’ve been most faithful to 69 birds having had 21 of them now and have 3 currently.

Best car I’ve ever owned though . Tesla model X plaid. 1020 hp runs 10.10 after a 2 hr drive ti the track which it’ll drive me to. Damn car is amazing! If you don’t own a plaid RUN out to buy one . Car I’ve had most fun with is probably my 69 RAIV firebird Stephens car or my turbocharged 69 bird that clicks off 9s on pump gas off the foot brake w low boost.
But seriously go try a Tesla plaid UNREAL! And mines an X the S clicks of 9.19 STOCK off the showroom floor . And it’s. A family car that’s hard to beat . I feel like it’s the 421 SD, or RAIV of the day. So much damn fun to drive it because the torque is instant.

Don’t want to get off topic w this thread though. Happy to open another thread on that car if people want

napa68 12-08-2022 06:07 PM

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My old 71 TA back in the day

turbo69bird 12-09-2022 04:58 AM

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A few more today

3X24SPD 12-09-2022 09:15 AM

Star of the Circuit
 
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66 gto

MarcDant 12-09-2022 09:39 PM

Always wondered , which rear end 67 69 fire birds running back then in nhra competition were they a cluch pak or borg warner cone type carrier 8.2 bop. or other? Thanks the for all the pics.

turbo69bird 12-10-2022 06:05 AM

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Always wondered , which rear end 67 69 fire birds running back then in nhra competition were they a cluch pak or borg warner cone type carrier 8.2 bop. or other? Thanks the for all the pics.

My car was raced in stock class on a 7 inch casler or M&H and it retained its 3.90 8.2 4 pinion posi for the two season stephens raced it without failure according to the original drivers. The slicks were pretty hard and pretty narrow so that stuff held up.

The pro stock car ran an 11.50 slick and had a Chevy C type 12 bolt w a center section made by Dana for Pontiac and 5.13 gears also made by Dana according to a 1972 article on the car the axles were summers brothers axles.

The engine was a engineering RAV w a developmental RAV intake and 660 center squirters that only a few racers got a hold
Of also mentioned in the article . It’s in my 69 now . The car couldn’t really compete w the factory backed hemi teams of the day but it was a match race favorite so there would be. A Pontiac for people to root for and they did well with it because of that . Arnie beswick had the same engine, intake manifold and carbs in his 68 pro stocker but changed to bigger carbs and offset spacers but you rarely hear anything about that car and pictures are even more rare of it. I have some pics of it somewhere but haven’t been able to find them lately Probably on an old computer or something. But there’s a “bee ON video” production (the story of pro stock I think it’s called ) w the Stephens pro stocker and there’s video of the RAV Pontiac pro stocker at an event they state that it was the only Pontiac pro stocker still running w Pontiac power so I m not sure if arnie ran his at all or not the pics o had were of the car w no engine in it and the engine on the stand .

The ram Air pan on this steohens pro stock engine was said to be “home made”
In the article, but doesn’t look very home made, the cuts are precision w no tool marks you’d expect on a home made set up, I still have it, and it’s identical to
One grumpy has on his car in some
Pics . Now grumpy and bill Eckstrom were friendly but idk if they copied each others pans or if someone supplied them to them it’s interesting that Pontiac was (allegedly) back dooring parts as was Chevy and everyone else to its racers they even had an aluminum block for the car but never got to race it. The article annoyed some people at GM and that was the end of Stephens racing program

turbo69bird 12-10-2022 06:12 AM

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