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scuncio 12-20-2021 08:17 PM

'67 Camaro SS396 L78 "Dixie Twister" Ex Drag Car (22 miles)
 
Pretty interesting car, evidently been a race car since Day 1. Ordered with 4.88, M22, and no radio or heater.

Link to 1967 L78 Dixie Twister Camaro auction

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9K0AA...OB/s-l1600.jpg

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Pro Stock John 12-20-2021 08:22 PM

I dig it. I saw it come up on FB a think a month ago but there were no restored pics.

Did that color become Butternut Yellow in '68? Is this color Capri cream yellow or antique white in person?

scuncio 12-20-2021 08:27 PM

Good question - I think Capri Cream might be similar to Palomino Ivory in '68. This is the same color combo as my '68 Z/28 was originally.

markjohnson 12-20-2021 08:37 PM

Ha! Look how the grease pencil’d “M21” morphed into “M22” on the firewall pics!

1967 4K 12-20-2021 09:20 PM

Like it
 
Oh yea nice ride, different color combo for sure. I’d like to see a close up of the TT.

Crush 12-20-2021 09:48 PM

I like the stance!

napa68 12-20-2021 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 1575603)
I like the stance!

Me too!

luzl78 12-20-2021 10:24 PM

Could you get a m22 in a 67 L7 camaro? I think not.

Too Many Projects 12-20-2021 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John (Post 1575590)
I dig it. I saw it come up on FB a think a month ago but there were no restored pics.

Did that color become Butternut Yellow in '68? Is this color Capri cream yellow or antique white in person?

Butternut Yellow is definitely more yellow than Capri Cream. A guy in our local Camaro club has a Capri Cream '67 and it's very light next to a butternut car.


Quote:

Originally Posted by luzl78 (Post 1575609)
Could you get a m22 in a 67 L7 camaro? I think not.

Why would that be ? The M22 was available in the Chevelles in '66 and '67. Why would it not be available in a Camaro ?

hogdaddy 12-20-2021 11:07 PM

Judging by my doors that still has some original paint, I would say it looks like Antique White. The contrast with a white top should look good one day!

Crush 12-20-2021 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by napa68 (Post 1575605)
Me too!

You have a 68 that could have the same stance?!

luzl78 12-20-2021 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Too Many Projects (Post 1575612)
Butternut Yellow is definitely more yellow than Capri Cream. A guy in our local Camaro club has a Capri Cream '67 and it's very light next to a butternut car.



Why would that be ? The M22 was available in the Chevelles in '66 and '67. Why would it not be available in a Camaro ?

It wasn’t available as an option in Camaro until 1968.

Too Many Projects 12-20-2021 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luzl78 (Post 1575624)
It wasn’t available as an option in Camaro until 1968.

That seems odd, that GM would not allow it in the Camaro with the L78 option.

1967 4K 12-20-2021 11:56 PM

TT pic
 
I’ve asked for a close up pic of the TT? Can anyone else make it out?
M22 not available in 67 Camaro that I know of.

Lynn 12-21-2021 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markjohnson (Post 1575593)
Ha! Look how the grease pencil’d “M21” morphed into “M22” on the firewall pics!

First thing I noticed when scrolling through the auction pics.

luzl78 12-21-2021 12:03 AM

I’m really not feeling that $170,000 price.

Lynn 12-21-2021 12:09 AM

From Colvin's "by the numbers" book on 65-69 models (page 282) speaking specifically to the M22 in 67 MY:

"Although the M22 was available on the Passenger, Chevelle, and Corvette, Chevrolet accumulative production reports show that no Passenger or Chevelle models were produced. Only 20 L88 427/430 HP Corvettes were produced with the M22."

I realize some new info may have been uncovered since the book came out, but that quote would indicate it was not even available in a Camaro. Would also indicate no Chevelle was built with an M22, even though it was available.

Lynn 12-21-2021 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luzl78 (Post 1575629)
I’m really not feeling that $170,000 price.

I am with you. Maybe if it were a Jenkins car or something like that. NOM; and 22 miles means nothing to me given that the speedo was unhooked at some point. Besides, does it matter how many miles on a restored car?

Don't want to start trashing the car. Very cool for what it is.

luzl78 12-21-2021 12:27 AM

It is sharp. No spoilers!

Too Many Projects 12-21-2021 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynn (Post 1575631)
From Colvin's "by the numbers" book on 65-69 models (page 282) speaking specifically to the M22 in 67 MY:

"Although the M22 was available on the Passenger, Chevelle, and Corvette, Chevrolet accumulative production reports show that no Passenger or Chevelle models were produced. Only 20 L88 427/430 HP Corvettes were produced with the M22."

I realize some new info may have been uncovered since the book came out, but that quote would indicate it was not even available in a Camaro. Would also indicate no Chevelle was built with an M22, even though it was available.

THAT I will question. I thought there were documented '66 and 67 Chevelles with M22's...:hmmm:

Too Many Projects 12-21-2021 01:59 AM

From Chevelle Stuff website...

1966 Chevelle RPO Production Numbers/MSRP

M20 4-speed wide-range transmission (SS396)
283 or 327 engine
(13680 - 01/07 - L35) 73,022 $105.35
$184.35
$188.30

M21 4-speed close-ratio transmission - available with L79, L34, and L78 engines. 5,012 $105.35
M22 4-speed close-ratio transmission 12


There were none reported in 1967...

plumL78 12-21-2021 12:42 PM

there are a number of items that are incorrect just under the hood of that car. Not picking at it but for that price it should be right

mprice 12-21-2021 12:54 PM

I agree I like this car a lot but the devils in the details, locks on all exhaust ports are wrong, air cleaner is for a 68 because it has the dent for the smog pump and why with all the deletes would they have ordered horse power robbing power steering, trans crossmember looks gray, get those darn notched belts off of it. All easy fixes, but at the asking price they get in the way on a car this cool.

1967Z28 12-21-2021 03:47 PM

Shouldn't have the ground straps on the firewall if it came without a radio. Also, shouldn't have the rubber between the gas tank straps. It's a tough thing to make a cowl plenum air cleaner fit and line up correctly on a big block car as Doug Perry can attest with YS760 so kudos for that. Brooks Chevrolet also got a 4.88 gear, no radio/no heater '67 Z-28 which they drag raced. It was at MCACN a few years back in the barn finds section.

1967 4K 12-21-2021 06:26 PM

TT
 
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Its trim tag.

Hotrodpaul 12-21-2021 06:33 PM

Is that trim tag real? Looks a little questionable to me.

Chuck_Burg 12-21-2021 06:51 PM

The font on the top of the tag looks sort of "fat" to me, but I'm not an expert. Neat looking car for sure

JRSully 12-21-2021 09:15 PM

Fluffed beyond fluffed

Too Many Projects 12-21-2021 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck_Burg (Post 1575715)
The font on the top of the tag looks sort of "fat" to me, but I'm not an expert. Neat looking car for sure


The lettering on the tag itself looks fairly original, but the info stamping looks very poor quality. The W on the fourth line is barely readable, as is the 4 below it. Can an original tag be pressed flat and restamped ? That's almost what it seems like ?

Chuck_Burg 12-21-2021 11:27 PM

The font is way different than my LOS car but NOR could've used different font since the machine stamping the tags would've been different

Too Many Projects 12-21-2021 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck_Burg (Post 1575740)
The font is way different than my LOS car but NOR could've used different font since the machine stamping the tags would've been different


Mine is a LOS also, and maybe that is why the stamping looks so different. I have looked at NOR stamped tags too, though and this just looks "sloppy", I guess.

1967 4K 12-22-2021 12:02 AM

Compare
 
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One to compare to. Use your phone to zoom in close to the characters.

Chuck_Burg 12-22-2021 12:03 AM

This NOR tag GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION font looks just like my LOS tag.

Too Many Projects 12-22-2021 12:32 AM

Yeah, Richard, that lettering is far more crisp and defined than the "other" tag.
This my LOS tag, again, very crisp stamping.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...080&fit=bounds

mssl72 12-22-2021 05:37 AM

Now the grease pencil says M22?

LARRY540 12-22-2021 11:23 AM

i do have 1 question! for a while now i have a on looker here at the cars for sale & i'm curious where the prices come from...on what basis..what history. these cars are really getting out of hand...i'm not picking on this car as it is a very nice restoration. but seriously. we all know that to perform a complete restoration is expensive..my opinion & just my opinion this is out of hand..what concerns me is if someone with tons on disposable income buys these cars is damaging to the hobby..just my opinion!!!

Too Many Projects 12-22-2021 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mssl72 (Post 1575772)
Now the grease pencil says M22?


Yeah, the M21 was a typo...danged auto-correct...;)

lowmile 12-22-2021 01:42 PM

Fresh paint on the corners around the rivets. May have been painting the sealer in the rivets for some reason???.....

cook_dw 12-22-2021 02:33 PM

Tag appears real although would like a better photo to comfirm. Also you cant compare a LOS to a NOR tag.

1967 4K 12-22-2021 03:22 PM

correct tag
 
Cook, are you looking at the 04D tag? It is the Ebay car for sale.


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