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Keith Tedford 11-04-2021 06:33 PM

1969 300 Deluxe Hardtop
 
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This car came with the M21 4 speed, 4.10 posi.

ruralrte66 11-04-2021 07:54 PM

So the 300 deluxe option could be ordered on hardtop cars, was that just a different interior? Thanks for sharing.

Gregg

Lee Stewart 11-04-2021 10:59 PM

I'm confused. Isn't this a 69 300 Deluxe SS396?

https://i.postimg.cc/3xpxfN87/0.jpg

Ryan1969Chevelle 11-04-2021 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1569959)
I'm confused. Isn't this a 69 300 Deluxe SS396?

https://i.postimg.cc/3xpxfN87/0.jpg

300 Deluxe is a model, you could get a post sedan or hardtop 300 Deluxe and get the SS396 package on both as well. 1969 Only

Ryan W31

combinefixer 11-05-2021 02:01 AM

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They might have built less post cars back in the day, but the hardtop 300’s seem harder to find today.

“13427” vin is the Post Coupe 300

“13437” is the Sport Coupe 300

Here is my 13437 300 SS 396 car and PoP

Bill Pritchard 11-05-2021 02:10 AM

Being a one-year-only offering that was none too popular when new, they can indeed be confusing today.

chevelleheart 11-05-2021 02:38 AM

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Im lucky enough to have a 13427 car, 4 speed , L78.

NorCam 11-05-2021 03:05 AM

Now that is sweet. I need to see that one some time. :beers:

combinefixer 11-05-2021 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ruralrte66 (Post 1569945)
So the 300 deluxe option could be ordered on hardtop cars, was that just a different interior? Thanks for sharing.

Gregg

The 300 deluxe was its own separate series from the Malibu line. The 752 black bench seat interior had several variances. The main ones being the rubber floor mat, door panels and upholstery pattern.

300 hardtops still had the astro ventilation system.

combinefixer 11-05-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pritchard (Post 1569993)
Being a one-year-only offering that was none too popular when new, they can indeed be confusing today.

Was it unpopular or unknown? I was -10 in 1969, so just asking for some historical perspective.

combinefixer 11-05-2021 02:26 PM

chevelleheart,

Did you add the passenger side mirror or was it optioned that way? Also, no antenna? No radio?

Black with the white accent stripe really pops!

Too Many Projects 11-05-2021 05:23 PM

Over the years, it seems many of the post cars I have seen came with the L78 engines, probably for racing. They were a few hundred pounds less in weight with less body twist when launched.
Friend of mine from school bought a Silver 300 coupe with L78/TH400 right after graduation. I don't recall if it had 3.73 or 4.10 gears.

He installed one of the first shift kits to come out and they had steel detent balls, which hammered the valve body out in short order. He swapped the kit back out and took it to the dealer. GM replaced the trans, but said they would not warranty it again.

mockingbird812 11-05-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by combinefixer (Post 1570017)
The 300 deluxe was its own separate series from the Malibu line. The 752 black bench seat interior had several variances. The main ones being the rubber floor mat, door panels and upholstery pattern.

300 hardtops still had the astro ventilation system.

Indeed! FWIW, some other (minor) differences included the 300 SS’s non-hidden windshield wipers and the center sun visor pivot points were not included (boy, that must have saved them a bunch of $$!! :hmmm: ). Also, not confirmed but, I believe that the 300 SS’s may not have had the trunk mat - anyone confirm this?

I believe that a lot of hardtop 300 SS’s went unnoticed because to the uninitiated they looked like a Malibu SS on the exterior. L78 engines were blown as these cars were known to be good for racing and documents like BS’s were rare in ‘69 to ID these cars for what they were.

I disagree that these cars were “a few hundred pounds” lighter. I think they were nominally lighter (IMO less than 100 lbs). The post cars would have less twist, but of course not true for the hardtops.

BTW, love, love, LOVE these rare sleepers!

Woj 11-05-2021 09:47 PM

Sam,

Grady and I have discussed the trunk mat issue with the 300s and I don't think we came to any solid conclusion. We thought maybe the SSs might have had them regardless since they came with most standard features. Maybe Dan knows. The 3 300s (non SSs) I have/had no trunk mats or remnants of trunk mats, but, that may have just been a coincidence?

It would be nice to know.

Keith Tedford 11-05-2021 10:38 PM

300 Deluxe SS396
 
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The 300 Deluxe SS396 got the SS emblem in the steering wheel and in the trim above the glove box door. The rest of the interior was regular 300 Deluxe including the base rubber floor mat. The exterior was all SS396 trim.

L78M22Rag 11-05-2021 10:45 PM

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My 300 Deluxe Post Sedan SS still has it’s original trunk mat. It wasn’t listed on any of the documents that I can see?

mockingbird812 11-05-2021 10:54 PM

Cool data point. Nice docs. Tuff looking car. Did this have a 427 transplant? Cool that you have a build sheet. This must have been an Atlanta built car and I believe pretty rare to be found in ‘69. Thanks!!

chevyman0429 11-06-2021 02:32 AM

I own a 300 hardtop that I bought thinking it was just a SS chevelle but soon got schooled from Mr Vasic about what it really was!

Late 70’s early 80’s race car. That’s been stashed in the back corner of my shop for over 20 years. I’ll get to it sooner or later.

napa68 11-06-2021 12:28 PM

Great thread!

Postsedan 11-06-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by combinefixer (Post 1569992)
They might have built less post cars back in the day, but the hardtop 300Â’s seem harder to find today.

The reason they are harder to find is because they are camouflaged by the owners that have no clue as to what they have....these owners need to be educated. Once they obtain these cars, (besides the engine)..... the first to go in these cars was then interiors and once they realize that there is no aftermarket interior parts available for these 300 Models.... they would simply order the Malibu Interior or worse upgrade to Bucket Seats (such a Sin) :(

You can spot one or two hardtops camouflaged on eBay on any given time. They are out there.... you just need to know what to
Look for :)

The 1969 300 Deluxe Post Sedan or Hardtop model is among my all time favorite Muscle Car of all....when you add the SS396 option they become iconic :)

Dan

427strato 11-06-2021 03:39 PM

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Here is one that we just got back from the paint shop and are starting to reassemble.

scuncio 11-06-2021 03:46 PM

Wow! Where did you find this one? Any original drivetrain left?

ruralrte66 11-06-2021 04:11 PM

Just Neat... Would love to own a 69 sedan someday, Thanks for sharing!!

Gregg

Keith Tedford 11-06-2021 05:35 PM

Holland Motors
 
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The L78 car that we fixed up in the late 1990's also came from John Holland Motors. Here is a picture that we took in front of Holland Motors show room and a Holland emblem that I saw on a Chevelle at a cruise night.

chevelleheart 11-06-2021 05:39 PM

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Doug , yours is almost identical to mine,….here’s my GM Docs too.
Plus my Olds 442 W30 Post car with the Chevelle Post…
The Evil Twins…

L78M22Rag 11-06-2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mockingbird812 (Post 1570095)
Cool data point. Nice docs. Tuff looking car. Did this have a 427 transplant? Cool that you have a build sheet. This must have been an Atlanta built car and I believe pretty rare to be found in ‘69. Thanks!!

Sam, this was actually a Baltimore built car.

Yeah, the original owner dropped in a 427 back in the day. The car only has 26k miles, sits on 50 year old rubber, and still sports mostly original paint… not the hood, of course ;-]

Ryan1969Chevelle 11-06-2021 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chevelleheart (Post 1570166)
Doug , yours is almost identical to mine,….here’s my GM Docs too.
Plus my Olds 442 W30 Post car with the Chevelle Post…
The Evil Twins…

Is the Olds formerly owned by Hodges?

Ryan W31

chevelleheart 11-07-2021 01:49 AM

Got it from a member here Ryan , about 5-6 years ago, can’t recall his name

Bill Pritchard 11-07-2021 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by combinefixer (Post 1570019)
Was it unpopular or unknown? I was -10 in 1969, so just asking for some historical perspective.

I guess you could say both. The Chevy Super Sport models (regardless of body style) prior to 1969 were always a top-of-the-line model with more upscale interior trimmings. So, when these 300 Deluxe models with the SS396 option came around to try and compete with the Plymouth Road Runner and Dodge Super Bee, many of the Chevy faithful were unimpressed and wanted to stick with what they were familiar with in the past, hence ordering or buying the Malibu-based SS396. As others have noted here, many of these 300 Deluxe models were ordered with the L78 (or even L89) engine, 4.10 rear axle, or other maximum performance equipment when your only interest was to go fast at the least cost. Others were ordered in the Road Runner/Super Bee concept, with the base 396 engine and minimal other options, so that a cost-conscious buyer could have the muscle car look and some performance at minimal cost. Whatever, the sales numbers were unimpressive so Chevy pulled the plug.

Ryan1969Chevelle 11-07-2021 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chevelleheart (Post 1570214)
Got it from a member here Ryan , about 5-6 years ago, can’t recall his name

I remember one year at PSMCDR there was a red and black 70 442 W30 Sports Coupe, the black one sold a few years ago. (Originally Burnished Gold?)

Ryan W31

chevelleheart 11-07-2021 01:56 PM

That’s the one Ryan

Ryan1969Chevelle 11-07-2021 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chevelleheart (Post 1570268)
That’s the one Ryan

I’ll dig up some photos of the 2 Sports Coupe W30’s together at PSMCDR.

Yours is an M21, 3.91 car?

SMS 11-09-2021 01:27 PM

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My 300 Deluxe Hardtop, paint code 65-50. Unfortunately not an L78 but is a 13437 vin L34 version.

SMS 11-09-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L78M22Rag (Post 1570093)
My 300 Deluxe Post Sedan SS still has it’s original trunk mat. It wasn’t listed on any of the documents that I can see?

L78M22Rag, my Baltimore car is very close to your Baltimore Vin. 553 cars apart so possibly the same day on the line.

combinefixer 11-09-2021 08:58 PM

Love the 65-50 paint scheme.

L72copocamaro 11-09-2021 11:32 PM

That is a very nice looking Chevelle!

chevelleheart 11-10-2021 12:16 AM

Sharp!

69 Post Sedan 11-16-2021 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Postsedan (Post 1570145)
The reason they are harder to find is because they are camouflaged by the owners that have no clue as to what they have....these owners need to be educated. Once they obtain these cars, (besides the engine)..... the first to go in these cars was then interiors and once they realize that there is no aftermarket interior parts available for these 300 Models.... they would simply order the Malibu Interior or worse upgrade to Bucket Seats (such a Sin) :(

You can spot one or two hardtops camouflaged on eBay on any given time. They are out there.... you just need to know what to
Look for :)

The 1969 300 Deluxe Post Sedan or Hardtop model is among my all time favorite Muscle Car of all....when you add the SS396 option they become iconic :)

Dan

This is very true…..TLC Restoration is near me and I’m good friends with the owner…..I received pictures of a ‘69 Chevelle, including the trim tag. No one noticed that it was a 300 hardtop. Even the owner had no clue…..so I’m sure it happens all the time.

A lot of people see my car (non L78) and automatically think it’s a ‘68 or they think it’s a ‘69 with ‘68 doors…..

Kurt


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