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ALLZS 07-05-2021 04:44 PM

Survivor
 
ok so I bought a unrestored survivor if I pull the engine to replace the timing chain is it still considered a true survivor the nylon timing components scare the hell out off me

carnut4life 07-05-2021 05:08 PM

Replacing normal wear items is completely acceptable but resist the temptation to "fluff" the engine compartment while you're doing it. What kind of car did you get? Everyone will want to see pics too!

wundercluck 07-05-2021 05:41 PM

Pics!!!

60sStuff 07-05-2021 07:55 PM

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Yes, those OEM camshaft gear nylon teeth are scary.

As stated above, don’t disturb what’s left of any factory paint on that cover when you do the R/R on the chain unit.

What model, year and mileage is on this Survivor car you have?

ALLZS 07-05-2021 08:16 PM

susvivor
 
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its a 68 z 57000 miles I will post pictures of the gear when I get it out, was not going to not pull the engine but I think that is the best way to do it

X66 714 07-05-2021 08:52 PM

Is that Corvette bronze?...Joe

ALLZS 07-05-2021 09:11 PM

yes no rs but kind of a high optioned Z

X66 714 07-05-2021 09:17 PM

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Cool. I have one of those also. Bought it in march of 1976...Joe

69M22Z 07-05-2021 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ALLZS (Post 1554121)
its a 68 z 57000 miles I will post pictures of the gear when I get it out, was not going to not pull the engine but I think that is the best way to do it

Very cool car

Too Many Projects 07-05-2021 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ALLZS (Post 1554121)
its a 68 z 57000 miles I will post pictures of the gear when I get it out, was not going to not pull the engine but I think that is the best way to do it


You can do a chain/gear change in the vehicle but getting the front cover back on with the pan installed is a MAJOR PITA and the front pan seal/gasket will likely leak. Pulling the pan along with the cover is the only way to get everything clean and leak free.

67since67 07-05-2021 10:56 PM

Awesome find!!:Can-I-Have-It: As others have said, no paint or fluffing!!

When I was young this was a routine job in the dealership, on any small or big block.

Two approaches,
1. Crack the pan bolts loose except at the rear, carefully leverage the pan down far enough to R&R the cover. Re-use the front pan seal with some discreet sealer, a little more at the corners.
2. Don't loosen the pan, pry the cover off, trim the corners off the inner cover pan seal channel (I know!! :eek2:). Use original pan front seal and discreet use of sealer. Use a drift punch on each side to leverage cover back into place.

If done properly, no leaks. Use OEM or black cover gasket, NOT a blue Fel-Pro!

Bill W

60sStuff 07-05-2021 10:56 PM

It would be wise anyway to pull the pan to clean any remnants of nylon that may compromise the oil pump.

Looking forward to seeing this Survivor front to back.

Too Many Projects 07-05-2021 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 67since67 (Post 1554141)
2. Don't loosen the pan, pry the cover off, trim the corners off the inner cover pan seal channel (I know!! :eek2:). Use original pan front seal and discreet use of sealer. Use a drift punch on each side to leverage cover back into place.

If done properly, no leaks. Use OEM or black cover gasket, NOT a blue Fel-Pro!

Bill W


Which means a LOT of cleaning with carb cleaner, brake cleaner and then acetone before the sealer.
Yes, did a number of them this way, but they ALWAYS seeped in the corners...:mad2:

ALLZS 07-06-2021 02:25 AM

z28
 
I am going with the remove the engine and do it so I don't have any leaks I have done them in the car and yes it is a mother and it will leak

firstgenaddict 07-26-2021 10:54 PM

I am getting ready to do my 71 LT1... according to the guys on the NCRS boards I am living on borrowed time.
I picked up NOS timing cover and NOS oil pan gaskets and plan on just doing it in the car - I will use a piece of card board laid out for bolt locations when I pull the bolts so I can get them back into the same exact placement.

Too Many Projects 07-26-2021 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by firstgenaddict (Post 1556581)
I am getting ready to do my 71 LT1... according to the guys on the NCRS boards I am living on borrowed time.
I picked up NOS timing cover and NOS oil pan gaskets and plan on just doing it in the car - I will use a piece of card board laid out for bolt locations when I pull the bolts so I can get them back into the same exact placement.


Wow, with the tilt hood, that is REALLY going to be a PITA job. It's hard enough laying over the front.
I wish you well...:worship:

firstgenaddict 07-27-2021 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects (Post 1556591)
Wow, with the tilt hood, that is REALLY going to be a PITA job. It's hard enough laying over the front.
I wish you well...:worship:

My 1980 vette rounded a lobe on the cam on the way back to college in the early 90's.
The next morning down in the fraternity house parking lot --- I got an early jump at about 6 am and was breaking the cam in by noon.
This should be a much less hectic job! :blush:


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