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NorCam 10-30-2019 03:29 PM

T3 or Power Beams 7" Headlights on Late 69 Car
 
Just wondering what headlamps came out on a very late 10E car built Nov of 69. Would they still be T3 bulbs or would those have been built using Power Beam bulbs like the 70 cars?

Curious if T3's were still in use late in the model year and what other late cars are known to have had?

Thanks in advance. :youguysrock:

jl8z28 10-30-2019 03:44 PM

As far as i know that T3s. Just wondering what the heads are on the bolts on the rad support that goes into the the rubber nuts

Diamond_Don 10-30-2019 04:28 PM

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For what this may be worth to anyone. I believe I have an original assembly line head light on my 1970 Nova. It’s a Power Beam with a GM logo. In 1974 one of the lamps blew out and I got a replacement unit from my local GM parts store.

The replacement was not an exact match, and that always bothered me to the point that I always look over head lights at car shows, hoping to perhaps find another match.
And, then I did see a match show up one day at a local car show in the 80’s, unexpectantly on a 1969 Camaro ! The owner wasn’t around, but everything looked unaltered and “right” to me, so now I take that to mean some late Camaros did get Power Beams.

Attached are the pictures of my head light that exactly matched the Camaro head light (remember, I was keying in on the details at the time I saw it). Notice the 2 at the top and the GM circle logo at the bottom of the bulb. I have found many Power Beams with a GUIDE logo, but in my experience the 7 inch head light with the GM logo are just rare.

Anyone else seen a match to this ? Good luck !

Lynn 10-30-2019 04:39 PM

Do T3 headlights have a date code?

How about Power Beams?

John Brown 10-30-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynn (Post 1469042)
Do T3 headlights have a date code?

How about Power Beams?


Ink stamped on the backside at the top. Ink washes off with water, so take care when cleaning.

Jonesy 10-30-2019 05:49 PM

My 1974 z/28 still has it original power beam headlights. Never been off the car.
I have a 2 at the top and no GM logo. I would have to take a better look at them as I never payed that close of attention to them.

Mr. Chevy 10-30-2019 11:08 PM

Don, what is the build date of your Nova??

Rich

Diamond_Don 10-30-2019 11:55 PM

Build Date - First week of April.

Ricks72Z28 10-31-2019 01:47 AM

Interesting I have a NOS Powerbeam and never noticed the GM logo... I will definitely check it out tomorrow.

Ricks72Z28 10-31-2019 10:20 PM

The 3 Powerbeam headlights I have all have “Guide” on the bottom.

Pacecar1969 11-01-2019 12:43 AM

My 06B 1969 Z28 had Power Beams. had the circle with power beam like the photo. Don't remember if it had a 2 at the top or any other details.

7TL34 11-01-2019 01:25 PM

My '70 Camaro has one original Power Beam on it. It has "Guide" at the bottom. I also have a pair of Power Beams that I picked up at a swap meet, that have the"GM" at the bottom. I seem to remember a posting on some website where the "Guide" ones were assembly line, and the "GM" ones were over the counter replacements. Don't know if that's true or not, but it sounds plausible. Dale

NorCam 11-01-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 7TL34 (Post 1469367)
My '70 Camaro has one original Power Beam on it. It has "Guide" at the bottom. I also have a pair of Power Beams that I picked up at a swap meet, that have the"GM" at the bottom. I seem to remember a posting on some website where the "Guide" ones were assembly line, and the "GM" ones were over the counter replacements. Don't know if that's true or not, but it sounds plausible. Dale

Want to part with those swap meet finds? :cool:

Jonesy 11-01-2019 02:51 PM

I checked my 74 Z again. They are original and never off the car. Mine say GUIDE at the bottom and have C68 or C69 at the top above the large 2. Not sure of thats a date code or not.

Jonesy 11-01-2019 02:56 PM

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Heres some pics

7TL34 11-01-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCam (Post 1469370)
Want to part with those swap meet finds? :cool:

Sorry, but no.

NorCam 11-01-2019 04:12 PM

I found a pair of Power Beams and have them on the way. Thanks for all the info provided on this thread thus far. Much appreciated.

Diamond_Don 11-01-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 7TL34 (Post 1469367)
My '70 Camaro has one original Power Beam on it. It has "Guide" at the bottom. I also have a pair of Power Beams that I picked up at a swap meet, that have the"GM" at the bottom. I seem to remember a posting on some website where the "Guide" ones were assembly line, and the "GM" ones were over the counter replacements. Don't know if that's true or not, but it sounds plausible. Dale

My over the counter replacement in 1974 was the GUIDE version. Of course I'm also interested for the day you decide to part with the swap meet GM ones. Post a picture if possible. Thanks !

7TL34 11-01-2019 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Diamond_Don (Post 1469410)
My over the counter replacement in 1974 was the GUIDE version. Of course I'm also interested for the day you decide to part with the swap meet GM ones. Post a picture if possible. Thanks !

Sorry, but they are packed away in storage. One thing I do remember is that they have "GM of Canada"& some numbers in the ink stamp on back.

Igosplut 11-01-2019 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Diamond_Don (Post 1469091)
Build Date - First week of April.

Funny, I have a first week of April-built Nova also and it had T3s. I still have one around somewhere (they both went out in the 80s) I'll have to look for it. I wonder how close the VINs of these two cars are (report says April 3rd, the door says the 4th)..

Mr70 11-01-2019 10:01 PM

Someone found a shipping container full of Canadian made old T3's & Power Beam Headlamps not too long ago.They were sold off in sections and have been floating around both countries for awhile now.So many,that I personally would not a premium for em.

Igosplut 11-01-2019 10:06 PM

I have a couple of the small T3s that were aftermarket (back in the day) replacements in the box still.

Diamond_Don 11-01-2019 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Igosplut (Post 1469432)
Funny, I have a first week of April-built Nova also and it had T3s. I still have one around somewhere (they both went out in the 80s) I'll have to look for it. I wonder how close the VINs of these two cars are (report says April 3rd, the door says the 4th)..

Nice ! A good week for Nova builds... I can just imagine the feelings of the local guy here who ordered the car waiting anxiously by the train station waiting to get to see it !

Igosplut 11-01-2019 11:15 PM

Wow, so same day. Whats the odds??

L72Biscayne 11-03-2019 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 7TL34 (Post 1469367)
My '70 Camaro has one original Power Beam on it. It has "Guide" at the bottom. I also have a pair of Power Beams that I picked up at a swap meet, that have the"GM" at the bottom. I seem to remember a posting on some website where the "Guide" ones were assembly line, and the "GM" ones were over the counter replacements. Don't know if that's true or not, but it sounds plausible. Dale

My 70 Z28 has the original power beam headlamps that say Guide at the bottom. I also bought over the counter that also say Guide. I purchased the car in 1987 with 32000 miles. Original paint, tire ,belts, brakes and hoses ect., so I'm assuming they are the originals. Production date is 6/70.

enio45 11-06-2019 03:05 AM

My 09E of 1969 Z/28 has powerbeams

Enoch 11-10-2019 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jl8z28 (Post 1469024)
As far as i know that T3s. Just wondering what the heads are on the bolts on the rad support that goes into the the rubber nuts

D, RBW and (R) cad plated

big gear head 11-16-2019 08:39 PM

What is a Power Beam with guide worth? I found one in some of my stuff. I've also got some 1 and 2 T3s.


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