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drce500 07-24-2019 07:55 PM

1969 nova with 4:10 gear?
 
could a 69 nova ss with a 350 be ordered with 4:10 gears?m-22 trans?supposed bv rear,thanks guys

Mr70 07-24-2019 08:03 PM

No.

Lee Stewart 07-24-2019 10:54 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/htCR8NRC/screenshot-7285.png
https://i.postimg.cc/25MpMv6h/screenshot-7286.png

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/doc...rolet-Nova.pdf

drce500 07-24-2019 11:46 PM

car is listed by a dealer and when i told him its not possible he told me im an idiot
1969 Nova SS 4 speed
$40,000
Claremore, OK

69 nova SS, All Numbers Matching, 34,000 documented actual miles with copies of titles to prove, 350 / 300hp V8 engine, Muncie M22 Rock Crusher 4-speed manual transmission, Original vinyl top, Original sheet metal, Factory tach and console gauges, 12 bolt BV code rear end, Aluminum intake is an over-the-counter part sold in 1969 and 1970, 410 gears. All Factory!! Azure Turquoise in color. This is one of the finest novas you will find! Truly a flawless example! $40,000

Schonyenko2 07-25-2019 02:57 AM

The gentleman is incorrect. BV most likely came out of a Camaro. You'd need to check the casting date to see if it lines up with the rest of the components, and build date but it probably came from a wrecked Z, or L78 Camaro. Back in the day you just went to the junk yard and swapped the whole rear. Or the guy could be a real fine fellow, and re stamped one. Either way. Not original, born with rear (unless re stamp).

69biscayne 07-25-2019 01:01 PM

No M22's either according to the chart.

ban617 07-25-2019 02:12 PM

If he has the protecto plate it would say what rear & trans it came with correct?

WILMASBOYL78 07-25-2019 03:16 PM

69 Nova...
 
The M-22 was a 'solid lifter' engine only option...as for the rear gears, as others have pointed out, they didn't put 4.10 gears behind the 350/300 motor.

I would just ask him to prove his claims by sending or showing you the transmission and rear end stampings. The trans would have to have the VIN and the rear would have to be the correct date range. Of course paperwork or a POP would be nice...

Please post the ad link so we can see this 'rare' car...

-wilma

drce500 07-25-2019 03:53 PM

m22
 
1 Attachment(s)
matches vin tag

drce500 07-25-2019 03:56 PM

m22
 
1 Attachment(s)
vin tag

drce500 07-25-2019 04:01 PM

i believe thats an m-22,correct?

WILMASBOYL78 07-25-2019 04:33 PM

M-22 trans...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drce500 (Post 1456718)
i believe thats an m-22,correct?

The 'C' is for M-22...the rest of the stamping indicates January 21st, 1969 assembly date. So, does that VIN stamp match the deck stamp on the block and does the date line-up with cowl tag??

Maybe this is an original big block car that someone installed a small block :hmmm:

I would like to see the listing and the photos...

Igosplut 07-25-2019 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WILMASBOYL78 (Post 1456723)
Maybe this is an original big block car that someone installed a small block :hmmm:

.

That would explain the trans and rear gear, although the BB engine code would be on the POP (if real)

drce500 07-25-2019 08:24 PM

m22
 
2 Attachment(s)
small block heater core,claimed engine numbers match.i posted the ad in earlier post.

RALLY 07-25-2019 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drce500 (Post 1456718)
i believe thats an m-22,correct?

Maybe a possibility they could order a M22 trans through the dealer request? I have heard of stories like this people asked the dealer if they could add something that was not listed.

Mr70 07-25-2019 09:57 PM

Who's taking these pictures?
Engine pad?

drce500 07-25-2019 11:18 PM

m22
 
the sellers pictures,a small muscle car dealer in texas.i will give dealers name if anyone wants it,its on a facebook page. says engine numbers correct but wont show pictures of it.does the trim tag look weird too?

Billohio 07-26-2019 12:50 AM

Axle in my 03D Z28 is the day after this car

WILMASBOYL78 07-26-2019 12:09 PM

69 Nova...
 
Why can't someone just post the ad or the FB link...???:dunno:

drce500 07-26-2019 02:51 PM

m22
 
Hunter Lay
July 23 at 12:07 PM
1969 Nova SS 4 speed
$40,000
Claremore, OK

69 nova SS, All Numbers Matching, 34,000 documented actual miles with copies of titles to prove, 350 / 300hp V8 engine, Muncie M22 Rock Crusher 4-speed manual transmission, Original vinyl top, Original sheet metal, Factory tach and console gauges, 12 bolt BV code rear end, Aluminum intake is an over-the-counter part sold in 1969 and 1970, 410 gears. All Factory!! Azure Turquoise in color. This is one of the finest novas you will find! Truly a flawless example! $40,000
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drce500 07-26-2019 02:56 PM

68-72 chevy nova
thats the facebook page,im too stupid to figure out a way to paste a link

John 07-26-2019 06:59 PM



… Here it is ….

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...epa=SEARCH_BOX

…. Click on Blue Nova SS with Black top

… July 23 entry

...:beers:

Mr70 07-26-2019 07:09 PM

Better and with 30 photos..
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...4349477044491/

DW31S 07-27-2019 11:51 AM

Whenever I see a dimestore booster on a restored car I shake my head. Certainly not the worst I’ve seen, but $40 large for a small block (Non Yenko) Nova is nosebleed money in my opinion.

EZ Nova 07-27-2019 12:29 PM

Its looks like a nice car, but NOT 40K nice for my standards.

Don't see to many legit SB SS gen 2's.

drce500 07-27-2019 03:26 PM

it appears to have correct block.the m-22 looks correct also i guess,but the bv rear?

Mr70 07-27-2019 03:44 PM

How can you tell it has the correct block?
I sent him a PM asking for engine pad/block photos on FB days ago.
He has read it & has yet to reply back.

NorCam 07-27-2019 04:14 PM

Unless someone managed to order it from the factory with the drive line listed, I would have suggested it's been transplanted perhaps? Does the car have a POP?

As far as values go, my opinion might be a bit biased as I recently bought a low mile 70 SS that was very clean, but these cars have always been under valued in my book. Maybe it's just time they started to creep up on the value board like the second gen Camaro's have.

fsc66 07-27-2019 05:01 PM

M22
 
GM production records for a 1969 Nova show 682 M22’s installed and all are in L78’s only.

M21’s installed in L34’s and L78’s

Paul

drce500 07-27-2019 05:17 PM

thats why i questioned the ad originally but doesnt the m-22 look correct?

Mr70 07-27-2019 05:38 PM

As has been said earlier,the M-22 & 4.10 are probably original to this Nova,but the 350cid. block I suspect is not.
Wish he would just post it's pics,as he's posted pics of everything else..which may be why he isn't.

Lee Stewart 07-27-2019 05:44 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/G2QDPk3F/screenshot-7293.png

https://www.novaresource.org/axle.htm#1969

drce500 07-27-2019 06:00 PM

i just always thought they both would have to be in an l-78 car,he has posted pictures from block but i havent taken time to really look at them

drce500 07-27-2019 06:05 PM

i sold my 68 w/the ls6/winters heads i had listed here,id like to have a real ss small block car but i too think its overpriced.looks very sharp but just somehow looks way too overstated


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