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bbbentley 05-22-2018 01:34 PM

Looking for Filter Material Ideas for Air Cleaner
 
I would like to pick some member’s brains as to what they use for air cleaner filter material? I want to run velocity stacks I already have. At the top of the bell of each stack are 2 perforated screens to sandwich foam between. I could buy a furnace filter and cut to size. I don’t know if the foam is readily available? Any members have this dilemma and their advice?

big gear head 05-22-2018 04:01 PM

I'd try to find something that wasn't flammable. I caught my carburetor on fire about a dozen times Thrusday. If I had a foam filter on it I might not have a car now.

Spooky 05-23-2018 02:54 AM

Do boats have air cleaners or just a flame arrester? pretty sure everything in boats I think has to be non flammable.

big gear head 05-23-2018 12:03 PM

I've seen boats with a woven stainless steel type filter, or flame arrestor. I don't know how well they filter, or how much air they will flow. I've seen velocity stacks with small round paper filters on top.

bbbentley 05-23-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by big gear head (Post 1401927)
I've seen boats with a woven stainless steel type filter, or flame arrestor. I don't know how well they filter, or how much air they will flow.

I've seen velocity stacks with small round paper filters on top.

Not versed in boat setups, but I don’t think boats will provide much useful info except what Scott pointed out. That being, the flammability of a filter material, which is a good point.

I do not want anything sitting on top of the stack. Must be concealed below the top of the stack. Thanks.

Turbo70Camaro 05-23-2018 05:25 PM

Here you go bud few options on color, thickness and course or fine material.

http://shop.unifilter.com/p/red-coar...6-x-3-8-40-ppi

markinnaples 05-23-2018 05:40 PM

Do you know if that foam fire resistant? I had the same flat-top velocity stacks on my car and swapped them out for the velocity stacks with the air cleaners on top as the fear of fire got the best of me, but I'd like to put the old flat ones back on it sometime if I can find something that is flame/fire resistant.

Turbo70Camaro 05-23-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by markinnaples (Post 1401993)
Do you know if that foam fire resistant? I had the same flat-top velocity stacks on my car and swapped them out for the velocity stacks with the air cleaners on top as the fear of fire got the best of me, but I'd like to put the old flat ones back on it sometime if I can find something that is flame/fire resistant.

Give them a call it's only 11 am here in So Cal.

bbbentley 05-23-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo70Camaro (Post 1401988)
Here you go bud few options on color, thickness and course or fine material.

http://shop.unifilter.com/p/red-coar...6-x-3-8-40-ppi

I like that. Red would look...well, red! Pretty cool. I am wondering if a flameproof coating or flame retardant spray is available? And how would that effect the filtration?

Bernhard 05-24-2018 03:52 AM

Why not test the filter buy doing a burn test before trying frame retardants.

whitetop 05-25-2018 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by markinnaples (Post 1401993)
Do you know if that foam fire resistant? I had the same flat-top velocity stacks on my car and swapped them out for the velocity stacks with the air cleaners on top as the fear of fire got the best of me, but I'd like to put the old flat ones back on it sometime if I can find something that is flame/fire resistant.


Just by looking at at it I would say no. Plastic based just like the MR G filters and they burn and melt.

whitetop 05-25-2018 07:35 PM

I briefly looked online and most of the furnace filters you see are flame retardent. There
are literally hundreds of co's making flame retardent filters and materials.

68l30 05-26-2018 11:54 AM

I went with a 40 mesh stainless steel screen we use at work on industrial burners. No burn, great filter and high flow.

BIG

bbbentley 05-26-2018 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68l30 (Post 1402291)
I went with a 40 mesh stainless steel screen we use at work on industrial burners. No burn, great filter and high flow.

BIG

That’s great! I don’t see where you are offering to send me some of that material? 2x 8in. round.

markinnaples 05-26-2018 02:01 PM

There appear to be a lot of places that sell that 40 mesh stainless steel screen such as Amazon and eBay. I have to say, it looks a little thin to work with my velocity stacks, however.

Bernhard 05-26-2018 02:31 PM

This company makes their own flame resistant filter.
You might want to ask if they will just sell you the filter no air cleaner.

http://www.lynxauto.com.au/ramflo-10...9-64-neck.html

big gear head 05-26-2018 03:41 PM

Bentley, how are you going to install the filter material? Is there something in the velocity stacks to attach it to?

markinnaples 05-27-2018 01:55 PM

Freddie, I have the VS on my car, though I'm not sure if they're the same as Bentley's, mine have two metal screens at the top of the VS and the filter material goes between the two circular metal screens. The VS diameter is smaller and the lower screen sits on a ridge with the filter material on top and the top metal screen goes on top of the filter material with a round spring that expands into a flange at the top of the VS. Terrible explanation, sorry, but that's how mine work.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-31-2018 02:35 PM

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Following closely, as we too need something fire retardant for Benjamin's Nova - I added wing nuts to ours...

JRC99 08-05-2018 03:50 AM

Also interested. Would love to put a fly eye on our Camaro. Would hate for it to burst into flames.

Locker537 08-05-2018 02:09 PM

Check these out from Walker Performance. I bet you can give them a call and they will make something for you.

https://walkerperformancefiltration.com/

You can always take it off when showing the car. I heard about these after Mike Finnegan used one on his 1955 Chevy gasser named "Blasphemi".

cook_dw 08-05-2018 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JRC99 (Post 1410356)
Also interested. Would love to put a fly eye on our Camaro. Would hate for it to burst into flames.


FYI fly eye wont fit under stock SS hood.

firstgenaddict 08-06-2018 05:40 PM

There has to be some fiberglass filter or a piece of nomex
https://www.amazon.com/Nomex®-Aramid.../dp/B00TOT7K1K

JRC99 08-06-2018 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cook_dw (Post 1410479)
FYI fly eye wont fit under stock SS hood.

The flat ones that Motion used? I don't mean a velocity stack.

cook_dw 08-07-2018 11:28 AM

Yes. I have tried. It hits the hood.. Might could cut the bottom down to allow it to drop further over the carb but as is it hit on my old 67.


https://www.yenko.net/forum/attachme...1&d=1493145126

MailOrderMotion 08-07-2018 11:52 PM

Fly Eye insert
 
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Found on the interweb. I don't know the part number.

EZ Nova 08-25-2018 02:46 PM

Those "foam" filters are not only dangerous, but really like performance.

https://www.motortrendondemand.com/d...ut/0_f6zyfspf/

That velocity stack with the foam was second worst of the 19 air cleaners they tested, killed 72.4Hp and they felt it was a restriction with much more then a 300Hp engine. They didn't test that style of Fly eye, but I could see it hurting some major Hp too.

Seems getting the air UP away from carb and then a straight direct shot down the venturis is the best for Hp. That last one above is just an abomination. But if you need filtration and have limited hood clearance?????

big gear head 07-04-2020 07:38 PM

I tried to watch this again and it looks like you can't watch them now without being a subscriber. I bought a set of those velocity stacks with the foam inserts and they don't seem to work very well. I'm looking at https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g3006 now and wondering if they are better. I wish I could watch that video again.

NorCam 07-05-2020 01:08 AM

James,

Maybe check with Universal Spinners in Toronto. He builds custom drop base filters for racers and guys with big blocks that want to fit air filters under the hood, and also does custom filters. I had him build a drop base filter to fit under the hood of my 55 years ago and loved his stuff.

Here's the link to his site.

https://i.ibb.co/GcGjWmr/Double-17.jpg

JoeC 07-05-2020 10:51 AM

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I was playing around with installing a small air filter inside of a fly eye.
It fits under the fly eye top screen

I was thinking of cutting the base of the small air filter to fit it inside the fly eye to hold everything in place but have not tried that yet.

Dave26 07-13-2020 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeC (Post 1505780)
I was playing around with installing a small air filter inside of a fly eye. It fits under the fly eye top screen. I was thinking of cutting the base of the small air filter to fit it inside the fly eye to hold everything in place but have not tried that yet.

I don't think that would provide nearly enough air for even a small block. Probably be hidden and give " the look" though.


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