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enio45 01-10-2018 07:25 PM

Judging items
 
Need an expert judging opinion here

When you have a 69 camaro judged, what is the ruling on reproduction wiring harness.....

Is that a hit on the points or.... considered acceptable and NO point deduction?

68bronze 01-10-2018 08:17 PM

great question Eddie iam not a expert but my guess is yes its a deduction

bbbenny 01-10-2018 08:25 PM

Spark Plug Wires
 
You can get repro wires, with the correct info on the wires. No problem, no deduction. How many cars have the orginal wires, Yet! We see it all the time. BBBenny

Mr70 01-10-2018 08:25 PM

If some judges take 1 point off for repro tires,I imagine the ones that can spot a repro harness will also.
It's a small price to pay for either of them though,to be able to drive safe & sound. :burnout:

jl8z28 01-10-2018 10:59 PM

In the legend judging they give points for certain areas if you have reproduced parts you won't get all of your originality points

enio45 01-10-2018 11:02 PM

ok thats for judging on legends - and i can understand that for originality accuracy.

for competitive show judging - what is the rule for reproduction wiring?

Salvatore 01-11-2018 12:08 AM

what BBBenny the Professor said Fast Eddie.

Copo_Cartel 01-11-2018 12:23 AM

Reproduction wiring harnesses are nearly a must.... with my experience in the past I have never had a deduction in points because of reproduction harnesses ... my main reason is safety and I do not want to burn an expensive car with restoration down to the ground.

bbbenny 01-11-2018 10:56 AM

If you have the orginal wires. Bring them along. You will get points for orginal parts, still with the car. BBBenny

L78 Fred 01-11-2018 11:25 AM

Eddie
What harnesses are you looking for?
I still have some 69 NOS harnesses still in the box as well as originals
Text or email me with needs
Take care
Fred

Dusk Blue Z 01-11-2018 12:50 PM

I went through Legends judging in 2014 with my Z and lost no points for originality or condition using a repo harness under the hood. I did paint the plastic clips that hold it to the sheet metal Brown as the repo clips were White and I couldn't find new Brown ones. I also swapped the plugs to the headlights from my old harness.

Mike

Steve Shauger 01-11-2018 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusk Blue Z (Post 1383498)
I went through Legends judging in 2014 with my Z and lost no points for originality or condition using a repo harness under the hood. I did paint the wire clips Brown as the repo clips were White.

Mike

I went a step further and took the original brown connector off an original harness and installed on the repo as well as replacing the incorrect white alternator clip with black.

enio45 01-11-2018 02:36 PM

That's what I'm talking about....!!

Lets take all the extra steps....we do it for the love of these cars!

X66 714 01-11-2018 02:38 PM

While we're talking about harness, who makes the closest harness? Thank you, Joe

jl8z28 01-11-2018 02:52 PM

Benny is a bowtie judge they don't go as far in detail as the legends judging does when I had my silver Z28 done they spent 3 and1/2 hour's going over it my Z still has all of the original harness still in it and I got all of the originality points when they did my jL8 Z 28 in the bowtie class they spent 20 minutes going over the car no points were deducted for t REPO wireing harness when the judge looked over the brakes he said he never did one before

jl8z28 01-11-2018 02:53 PM

I used American auto wire

Salvatore 01-11-2018 03:02 PM

The owner makes the car as he wants it and how his funds allow. I like to find and use original parts as much as I can. When it comes to wiring and things that have something to do with safety I like to use the best parts available if I feel the original or used parts are not up to par I change them. No matter what you use NOS or repro, those parts are still not original to your car so it is still a restoration no matter how you look at it. Most everything sooner or later becomes a very expensive "kit car". All in what you want and how much money you want to spend.

jl8z28 01-11-2018 03:30 PM

There's a guy who Will redo your original under the dash harness over at team Chevelle he did the one on my 69 Chevelle and it looked like new

enio45 01-11-2018 11:38 PM

Reason I asked: I'm helping a customer with his judging sheets from MCACN....looking over his deductions and getting together the right parts.

One of several items that i personally didnt agree with was the deduction of reproduction wiring harness......thus me asking the experts out here on what is the rule for this. I see no need to change out the new harness - and like you all said - safety over looks.

Its not a junk harness - might be an honest mistake as well.....


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