Grumpy's 1969 camaro
 

If you only knew. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...43-jenkins.jpg

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

how much more with motor?

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

I called but got no answer........ was gonna see if he'd take $2500!

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

So you guys think this is a recent add?I'm thinking maybe it's 30 years old.

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

More like 45 years old...

Dave
67 Nova Boy

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

sold late '71 or early '72, Jenkins used it to test sm/blk combinations for the new '72 rules.
new owners...
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...grumpystoy.jpg

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I called but got no answer........ was gonna see if he'd take $2500! </div></div>

You need to low-ball it these days. $1000.

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As an aside, did Jenkins ever have a tunnel rammed BB in a 69? or, what type engine did he run in his 69 car when it had the G. lump? I know the car had a ram, I think starting around 70 and it started as a BB car. So it would just go to reason, but maybe, and I do not know, by the time he experimented with TRs, he may have only did SBs with a ram in his 69 car?

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

is that '67 parked next to it Bill's (former) car too?

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[img]https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...fc6adc895ba3cb[/img]

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">More like 45 years old...

Dave
67 Nova Boy</div></div>

Correct NovaBoy

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">More like 45 years old...

Dave
67 Nova Boy</div></div>

Correct NovaBoy<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bbbentley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As an aside, did Jenkins ever have a tunnel rammed BB in a 69? or, what type engine did he run in his 69 car when it had the G. lump? I know the car had a ram, I think starting around 70 and it started as a BB car. So it would just go to reason, but maybe, and I do not know, by the time he experimented with TRs, he may have only did SBs with a ram in his 69 car?</div></div>

Think Pro Stock my boy, PRO STOCK 1969-70.......Hemi's against the DOHC and the DOHC against the..................

Grumpys 69 camaro
 

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fiveforty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

Good eye on the background &quot;Wallace &amp; Silman&quot; photo. I don't know the answer to that one, maybe Doug might have some input. I read somewhere (I read a lot of vintage race car stuff) that Jiggs' '69 is in private hands and tagged for street use although it doesn't get out much. Supposedly, the owner is fully aware of just what he/she/they have and don't want it publicized. I'm NOT saying or confirming this to be factual info., merely passing along what I saw in print. I also read, and photos do confirm that Jenkins was NEVER concerned with the &quot;looks&quot; or &quot;cleanliness&quot; of his race cars, only the way they in which they performed. Seems like every picture of every car shows duct tape, wire ties, mismatched paint, etc.
And of course I was &quot;speaking&quot; in jest with my comment about calling and making the offer; the low-ball $1000.00 offer was funnier yet!

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78racer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is that '67 parked next to it Bill's (former) car too? </div></div>

no

Re: Grumpys 69 camaro
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And of course I was &quot;speaking&quot; in jest with my comment about calling and making the offer; the low-ball $1000.00 offer was funnier yet! </div></div>

Ya sure!

Has the existence of the 69 car been verified. One was being displayed as "the real deal" this weekend. Other than that the owner was clueless. Anybody know what's up.

The VIN for Grumpy's 69 is known.

Was his '69 a ZL1?

No. It was built as an L78. He swapped in a ZL1 engine from one of the production cars. Later I believe he switched to a 430" Can-Am block.

But, has it been found and or verified?

Soon as someone posts the VIN we will know.

If it is the real McCoy they can begin negotiating with Jenkins family. Without the original paperwork it is just another old race car.

If the VIn is known, why would they need to negotiate with the Jenkins family ?
When I bought my ZL-1, I did not have to negotiate with the original owner or anyone because the VIN was known also. .... (although I did later get a bunch of paperwork on the car, but never found the actual original owner)

The Jenkins VIN is known only because of the paperwork. The Jenkins family may still have that info. Would you trust copies?

ZL1s were known because a Chevy executive retained the VIN list and released the info.

What do we know about Grumpy Toy VI?
Was it an SS 396 L78 or L89?
4 Speed?
Sold new at? Dealer?

L78 M22 4-speed 3:55 posi HD rear springs. Built prior to the availability of the ducted hood.

Sold new at Roth Chev Paoli, PA.

William, do you know the original color?

White

Same Grumpy’s Toy
 

At the Nationals this past weekend.

^ Kool and the Gang!

Thats Toy IV and its not the real one.
Its a fake.

TR 711 50 50 PNT pre X Code

Looks like he cut out part of the dash so he wouldn't hit his fist when going into third gear.

VI

Early

Toys

Fun looking clone here: https://www.facebook.com/commerce/li...are_attachment

Yeah I was looking at that car earlier. He makes it sound like a Jenkins car, but it obviously isn't. I don't think bill ever ran a Powerglide.

I can't believe that they are still trying to pass that car off as the real toy IV.

Here is Pictures of Engine Bay of Toy VI