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1967 RS SS Camaro
This car was sold new at Clippinger Chevrolet Covina Cal according to NCRS report it was a small block car converted to a 427 at the dealer still trying to obtain paper work to prove that but was told by a good source that remembered the car at the dealer having 427 1967 .Its a 0-0 special paint code some sort of green look at pics. The car has the orginal 12 bolt 373 PJ code and 4 piston disc brakes and a factory 4 speed this car is super solid .This is a friend of mine car Please call him for more info 785 893 7037 he asking 69k http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...316_142827.jpg
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Wonder what the l229d means other than a fleet special order? The confirmation of the 427 transplant will confirm the asking price.
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Very cool car brent. Built the same week as my 67 z. About 450 car before mine, yours was built on wed. or thursday. They were built with the big cars, so they built about 200 camaro's a day.
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This is not my car it's a friend of mine what do you guys think thanks
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The price is now 150,000 due to the paper work
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Bob wing ate is incorrect. It came originally with a 350 but probably did have the 427 installed but solid proof has not been supplied,just him saying that the motor was changed.
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Brent, I think it's pretty darn cool. I've always liked the 67's and personally think they are undervalued. First year of the first gen, and the impact they had was enormous.
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Letter from Bob Wingate does not have the full V.I.N.
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It also says it's a 396 car
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bob did order the car as 4p ss 350 with a 396 came that way from gm he could sale the 396 to a boat place but not the 350 . so that's why he ordered it that way it was never a 4k car and he knows that. it was cheaper that's what HE SAID . HE DID ORDER AND SOLD THE CAR HIM SELF. AND HE KNOWS HE LEFT THE 7 OUT OF THE VIN AND IS SENDING OUT A NEW LETTER WILL BE HERE IN A COUPLE DAYS WHAT MORE DO U WANT A PIC OF HIM INSTALLING THE MOTOR HE DID TALK TO HIS MECHANIC TO VERIFY THE CAR . WAS THE ONE OUT OF 5 CARS HE ORDERED THAT WAS GREEN
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"bob did order the car as 4p ss 350 with a 396 came that way from gm"
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Whoa. Calm down dude.
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Did Bob Wingate call Ed Cole at gm and say hey Ed, I'm ordering this camaro ss with a 350 and tell the guys at the factory to put a 4p on the cowl tag but when it comes down the line don't put the 350 in it. Just put the really powerful 396 in it cause I want to save some money. I'm gonna sell that 396 to a boat guy. Charlies IPC and and Jenkins l78 had 4p on the cowl but that was March this is May.
Maybe the L229d on the cowl tag is the special order the 350 but get 396 option. |
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All I know is he special ordered the car with a 396 . With a 4p code may not make sense to u but that's what he did . As for the docs no different then a motion car Joel says yes it did or no it did not or may be lol bob is still sharp and still looking for organizing invoice and a pic of the car he did take a pic of most every car he sold
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I would love to see a day one pic of the engine bay with the l78 in it. I have learned to never say never. I agree with the special order green because of the o-o paint code.
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Yes your right bob had gm by the balls he could order whatever he wanted at the the time he was number 1 sales man in the US they gave him a 67 custom vette to keep him happy . He is not a lier or has he lost his mind lol
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Clippinger ordered at least 2 other L78 cars, built at the same time as your car, and were also dark green. One is a possible dealer modified car.
Your car would not have received an L78 from the factory, especially since 2 L78's were actually ordered at the same time and both are 4K cars. So the dealer only tried to save money on your car and not the others? That's not how the ordering process worked - either a L48 engine or an L78 engine was ordered and the proper body was then built. As a SS350 car, I would question that your car was dealer converted to a 427 car, especially that late in the year. They would start with a big block, normally an L78 so they could reuse the most components. And have the right engine mounts, heater core, radiator, etc. And your car 124377L157826 still has a SB heater core. |
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Kurt I understand where your coming from I asked bob several times why he ordered the car the way he did he told me the same thing over and over it was cheaper to order it as a 350 car and a 396 engine to get the running gear and he could recouped some money by saling the 396 . I know it's not by the book but this is the way bob wingate did this car please Google bob wingate he had lots of pull at gm
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Kurt is there any docs on the other 2 cars u speak of by Bob Wingate
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would love to see a day one pic of the engine bay with the l78 in it. I have learned to never say never. I agree with the special order green because of the o-o paint code. </div></div>
I learned that lesson the hard way. Wingate was the top vette salesman in the country, and if memory serves he orchestrated the L88 cars for Garner's A.I.R. team through Harbor Chevy. |
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What you are saying is in direct conflict with the two cars that were ordered as L78's at the exact same time by the same guy. It's either ordered as a 350 car or a 396 car. I don't care who ordered it - you couldn't order it both ways at the same time. That's like ordering a convertible coupe.
No docs that I know on the other two cars. |
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the fact of the matter is this is the car bob did the 427 conversion on whether it was a 350 or a 396 . and he was confident to put is name on this paper work.
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Can't see the pics
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...try this... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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No pics either. I'm wondering this: Joe Customer visits Clippinger Chevrolet's showroom and sees the special Green paint 427 transplant and says "Man!, I like that car a lot! But I don't want one with a 427. How about ordering me one just like it with the 350". That happens here at the dealership quite a bit. We have a Denali on the floor, but sell a Yukon SLT instead for a whole lot less. It would also make sense that this car has a later build time than the other known special-paint L78 cars; one of which might be a possible 427 transplant. I've been at this car game all of my life (so far) and have seen (with my own two eyes) a bunch of stuff that would be hard to explain to someone who hasn't been in the car business so long. Some of the weird stuff does defy the rules, and yes, even common sense. I'm not at all saying this couldn't have happened, or doubting Bob Wingate's memory (three special ordered green Camaros, two of the three did get a heart-transplant, and maybe he is referring to one of those two), but if my first couple sentences of this post DID happen, it would seem to make more sense. Now, I'll also throw this out to everyone: in 1965, while my Dad ran the dealership, a new 1965 Olds Cutlass (not a 442), arrived off the car hauler with a 425 engine painted the same gold color as the normal 330. I know where the car was up until the '80s. True story. Nobody cared about it then and nobody (except a select few) believes it now. So anything was possible then; not so much today.
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Pics there now. Holes appear to be where an electric fuel pumped could've been mounted. Is that a cooler of some type in the cowl area?
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BB fender emblems are too low. No doubt put on after the SB to BB swap. Cool car that deserves to be put back to its original color and driveline configuration.
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With all this speculation can't it be just as possible the cowl tag was a mis-stamp? I agree that if this was Joel then it would be as good as verified.
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bob orderd 5 cars in the dark green he has to match up his documentation with the correct vins of the l78 cars and verify his vin with this 350 car
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My understanding of the FSO code is L229D
L = LA 229 = the 229 special order for the LA plant D = 4 cars total for the order. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67rs/ss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My understanding of the FSO code is L229D
L = LA 229 = the 229 special order for the LA plant D = 4 cars total for the order. </div></div>thanks Anthony for enlightening me! Maybe it's all the green cars? |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67rs/ss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
D = 4 cars total for the order. </div></div> D is not the number of cars in the order. |
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Kurt, what does the entire code mean?
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