Muscle cars + classic car collecting
 

I am curious on how many out there, that collect muscle cars, also have a desire for cool 2 door 'big size' classic cars. I know station wagons have already caught on, and everyone seems to dig those. I have been asking my wife to let me get a big 2 door ride, and she has said no no no no to my desires to get a 71 riviera, or a 67 toronado, etc, but she finally said <span style="font-weight: bold">YES</span> yesterday to looking at 67 eldorados.

I got this feeling I am the odd one in the muscle car bunch...probably depends on what cars you were around in the 60s and 70s...and your age.

Here is the car that got her to reconsider:
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When I see them out on the road I like. They are comfy compared to muscle cars. The resale may be tricky so buy right.
My buddy has a 70 black Pontiac GP with the HO 455. Love that car.

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I would love to have an early to mid 60s Cadillac. I want fins, but not giant ones like 59-60. Coupe d' ville or convertible would be my choice. Sadly no room in the garage, have to settle for my 68 Biscayne.

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I love the Riveria line of cars....mid 60's to the 70 boat tails.

I don't have any in my collection, but i do have several late model el caminos and a few italian cars.

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love the 67 Eldorados - classic look. My brother-in-law has one and it just exudes 60's coolness! Good luck!

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A '67 Eldorado is as sweet as any muscle car during the era. Not many American cars better-looking than that - up there with the '63-65 Riv and '68-69 Charger, among others.

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----You and I think alike, Bob! I particularly like 66/67 Rivieras. One of GMs all time best designed cars. Id have one if I had a bit more storage. I agree with you about 67/70 Eldorados as well. And,,,a few of you guys know that I am also a 69 Grand Prix slappy. You may have seen mine at MCACN this year.......Bill S

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Sharp car and looks terrific in black. Also like the SS 454 Montes in black. With all these, best to purchase restored as they just don't command prices that can support a high end restoration.

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I love the big cars. I have 67 ford 427 car and just bought a 66 Bonneville. Eyes on a Toronado.

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Early 80's I had a '69 Eldo' for a while also a '69 Toro' plus a '71 98 Coupe.
Always wanted a W34 Toro' w/ the 442 bumper cutouts, especially a '70!
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Go for it Bob! Back in 1969, Friday night was street racing with my Camaro, Sat. night date night with the Eldo.

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It's funny how people put 69-72 grand prize and 70-72 Monte Carlos in with the big car category. They are on the same frames as chevelle and gtos. Just about 1 foot longer and the just about the same weight.
I personally like the big cars better than the rest.I've had some really cool ones.

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Had a 72’ Tornado – the wife called it the Nimitz … was excellent in the snow with that four double nickel sittin' in the nose! TAZ

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I drug this home a year ago. It wasnt running well enough for any driving but looking forward to when it will. At least looking forward when its back together! Its a beast and a mile long. Crossram 413 with a push button cast iron transmission. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...812_215240.jpg

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Bill -- I don't care what the kids say ... THAT is HEAVY METAL. TAZ

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That Eldo is sexy.. I'd gladly take a 66 / 67 toronado ... We used to have one that we took from jersey to Albany (turning stone resort) we would do 85 up the NY through way with the ac blasting like it wasn't no thing

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Here is the one big 2 door survivor I 'had', but I sold it to help pay for my 67 hemi gtx. It was really tough to see it get picked up. My wife and I did a lot of cruising in it, no worries about overheating, or where to get racing gas, just a nice and smooth ride. Yep, I am ready for a black 67 eldo now....for restoring 'balance'.

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Here's our family classic - given to my Grandfather by his company, as a retirement gift in 1971.

(Gets far worse gas mileage than any musclecar I have ever owned. 6mpg highway) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

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That thing is a block and a half long [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

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It's longer than my Suburban and wider than a traffic lane!

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And bigger than a parking spot ... That'd be fun to have here in California. I would purposely park it in spots marked for &quot;compact&quot; cars just to watch them steam
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This was my summer daily driver for awhile, and had several later big Cads as well. 69-70 Deville convertibles are my favorite.

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Steve that thing looks clean. has it had much done to it?

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I like big cars and prefer them over a GM A-body as they have more leg room... and are just cooler and more unusual. I currently have a '67 Grand Prix..... 400 4 speed manual steering and brakes... original paint... 77,000 original miles. Also have a '67 Catalina convertible.. 428.. hood tach...

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Billohio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve that thing looks clean. has it had much done to it? </div></div>

Here's the whole skinny on the big car.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthrea...-a-l#Post539151

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I once had a 64 Caddy de Ville convertible. It was an old parade car that had 26K miles on it when I got it. Came equipped with parade horns. The car had no ac but power windows, brakes, steering,power top. but no seat belts. A true parade car. It had one repaint in white with black leather. That car was so well built it was crazy. The amount of sound deadening in the carpet, the width of the doors were remarkable. It cruised so well. My girls were in junior high school when I owned it and played soccer. My wife use to load up the car with 7 girls and run car pool. But only after I sourced some original seat belts [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img] I hated to see it go but moved on to other cars. I did enjoy that big ole boat. And it is funny how many people ask me about that car.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love the big cars. I have 67 ford 427 car and just bought a 66 Bonneville. Eyes on a Toronado. </div></div>

What's the stats on the Bonneville?

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421,tripower, 4 speed Transistor ignition, heavy duty frame, 373,black with white interior. Needs resto. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...36437-tn_2.jpg
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That's a cool one!

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----Charley,,,Neat piece! Is it an &quot;HO&quot;? That would add a bit of value.....Bill S

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I think any Tri-Power 421 has value, HO or otherwise. I know of a silver HO 4-speed that used to be in MI but don't know where it is now. It's actually a dream car of mine. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif[/img]

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----I agree with you, but HOs are rarer and the top dog. Sort of like the 427/435 Corvette of the big-body Pontiac world, while the regular 421 with trips would equate to the 427/400 in a Corvette. JMHO!.....Bill S

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">421,tripower, 4 speed Transistor ignition, heavy duty frame, 373,black with white interior. Needs resto.</div></div>

Wow! Very cool car, Charley.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----I agree with you, but HOs are rarer and the top dog. Sort of like the 427/435 Corvette of the big-body Pontiac world, while the regular 421 with trips would equate to the 427/400 in a Corvette. JMHO!...</div></div>

But aren't 427/400 Vettes the rarest of the street 427s?

I don't have access to my numbers, but 421/356 cars sometimes are rarer than HOs, I believe. Regardless of engine, I want Charlie to think of me when he decides he's sick of Pontiacs. :-)

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Also has a power trunk release. Guy ordered the car to have something different he could drag race but also sold Encyclopedias out of the trunk and hated fishing for his keys in the rain.

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The GM Heritage Center has a lot of unpublished info on Pontiacs, but unfortunately no info on 1966 Pontiacs like this - a shame.

However, I have seen their 1967 numbers (which are for the 421's replacement, the 428) and it's interesting to note that the top engines were more popular on the Bonneville than the Catalina, 2+2 excepted. Prob is analogous to the number of L-36 427 Caprices you see versus basic Impalas, Bel Airs, and Biscaynes (at least from my observation).

I don't know if I have digital pics of the silver HO Bonnie I've seen as I'm overseas at the moment, but it has been to the Pure Stock races a few times over the years - prob been 10 years since I've seen it.

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I love big cars also. I have 2 66 Impala SS 396 4 speed convertibles. One with factory A/C. I also have a 3rd car with the same options but in a hard top.

Great family cruisers.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SupremeDeluxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This was my summer daily driver for awhile, and had several later big Cads as well. 69-70 Deville convertibles are my favorite.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...9-22-09015.jpg </div></div>

Nice car. My parents had a dark green/black '70 Coupe de Ville when I was a kid that my dad redid. Man, we all loved that car and it was just such a great family cruiser. I'd love to find another decent one just to take my mom for a ride again. Thanks for the great memories.

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1966 Toronado I pulled out of Gold Run California 2 years ago. I am the 3rd. owner. It still has the Original exhaust system on it dated 10 65. It just turned 50 years old last month. I am waiting 3 months for the engine to come back from the rebuilder, we had to have a set of pistons custom made. Only fit 1966 &amp; 1966 425 Toronado's. 2 tons+ of GM engineering @ it's finest.

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