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Tom R 09-11-2015 07:18 PM

Paint
 
Thinking about getting my 1970 W-31 painted, but looking for a deal(paint is good just want to put it back to original color) would love to do it myself but just do not have the time. By chance does anyone know someone who maybe does work on the side? I live south of Chicago Bolingbrook IL.

L78steve 09-11-2015 07:21 PM

Re: Paint
 
You'll most likely get what you pay for.

Keith Seymore 09-14-2015 02:54 PM

Re: Paint
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78steve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You'll most likely get what you pay for. </div></div>

Ditto.

I spent my entire growing up years having stuff painted by &quot;friends&quot; which meant a discount price but being stuck in &quot;paint shop jail&quot; due to their timing.

Now as a somewhat prosperous middle aged male I just spend the money and have it professionally done. That way I can dictate the timing and come down hard when they don't meet my expectations.

I recommend a trial run, taking some smaller parts to a local shop and seeing how responsive they are, before giving them the whole car.

K

bbbentley 09-14-2015 03:23 PM

Re: Paint
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78steve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You'll most likely get what you pay for. </div></div>

You'll most likely pay a lot more than what you will get or have planned to spend and have nothing but regrets having turned over your &quot;baby&quot; to someone who does not give a s**t about you or your car, promises the world he will do it right and then, lies &amp; more lies, enough to make a politician seem honest...good luck.

Sorry, for my little hiss-y-fit, not all folks are bad, we know. And, not all can be put in the same hole (pigeon hole). It is just that it has taken 4 years and 2 body guys and 10K and my car is still not painted! I feel like the biggest sucker to ever take on a restoration. Is it too much to ask for the work to be done right?
There are a few guys on this site that, if I were you, or in my perfect hindsight I would have, I would just ship it off to them and tell them to ship it back when done, nuff said.

RST 09-14-2015 05:46 PM

Re: Paint
 
That's why we at Mascar will not touch a classic car for a paint job for less then 30K, however, you will get a beautiful paint job in under 1 year! Guaranteed ....... However, our waiting list is at least 1 year [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] my advice, get a quote from some reputable, reviewed shops, get referrals, and insist on a contract [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Dave Rifkin 09-14-2015 06:12 PM

Re: Paint
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RST</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's why we at Mascar will not touch a classic car for a paint job for less then 30K, however, you will get a beautiful paint job in under 1 year! Guaranteed ....... However, our waiting list is at least 1 year [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] my advice, get a quote from some reputable, reviewed shops, get referrals, and insist on a contract [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>

Yikes I thought $10-$12k was expensive when I read that a lot of the Corvette guys spend in that neighborhood to get their classic 'Vettes repainted. I guess I'll have to live with my 20 footer.

cook_dw 09-14-2015 06:38 PM

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$30K for a paint job!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...icons/thud.gif

SS427 09-14-2015 06:54 PM

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Don't ask how much but cannot agree enough, you get what you pay for! $30k is <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">VERY</span></span> reasonable especially if it includes bodywork and paint. This one took 18 months give or take but Tom likely did the best job he ever has on a car and it shows. Money well spent. If you want a $15k then do not complain when you compare it to others.

SS427 09-14-2015 06:59 PM

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Is it just the outer paint we are talking or are we talking bodywork, sheet metal, firewall and floor pan and interior paint/primer? I can see just the outside costing less than $12k but not for a restoration. Here is a 4 year old basically outside bodywork and paint that cost $10k at that time. Customer got what they paid for. Looks good from 10 feet, not so perfect when close up. This included bodywork and two front fenders but no interior, floor pan or firewall/engine compartment.

Dave Rifkin 09-15-2015 01:37 AM

Re: Paint
 
I guess it depends on what type of car, and it's eventual use, we're talking about. Does it make sense to put a $30k paint job on my $25k Corvette? Especially if I plan on driving and enjoying the car?
If I owned a Yenko or something worth six figures then I guess it makes sense as a quality paint job like that would only enhance the cars value.
I meant no offense by my comment about a $30k paint job; it's simply that I really had no idea that a nice paint job for a classic car could cost that much.

resto4u 09-15-2015 01:53 AM

Re: Paint
 
Also keep in mind that is california, with the most strict regulations and air quality standards. And according to california, everything causes cancer.

SS427 09-15-2015 01:37 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I meant no offense by my comment about a $30k paint job; it's simply that I really had no idea that a nice paint job for a classic car could cost that much. </div></div>

Dave, no offense taken and sorry if my response sounded that way. Not at all. I certainly agree with the cost versus value completely but people just need to understand a $10 paint job is likely not one on a car that has been stripped to bare metal and completely redone but rather paint over paint and on repairs that will not last very many years. I see our paint jobs lasting indefinitely as well as any bodywork.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 09-18-2015 02:53 PM

Re: Paint
 
Also factor the cost of paint and supplies, I bet you'll be surprised at how expensive the (good) stuff is!

RST 09-19-2015 09:57 PM

Re: Paint
 
All great points here, yes Cali is tough, and we will not just paint a car, we MUST strip the car to bare metal to be sure we are not painting over a problem. If you bring us a stripped car, with no issues, it is 30K, if we have to do a bunch of work, ie metal rust repair etc, it goes up from there. There are lots of shops that can do a very good job for 8-10K. However if we are doing a restoration, we only do it one way ..... Perfect, and that costs a bunch. It's always best to review the value of your car and what you want it for........a good friend of mine painted his car in his garage and he did a great job, paint lasted 3-4 years before bubbles developed.

For myself and our clients, TIME is the issue, when we take a car, or do our own, we want that car done in NO MORE than one year, and that costs money [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

TIME IS THE ONLY COMMODITY WE CANNOT REPLACE.

KenMaisano 09-20-2015 12:14 AM

Re: Paint
 
Our average job after media blast is between 400 to 700 hours. That is machup with seals and belts installed for correct panel alignment. Sectioning as needed, all body work. paint and color sand and polish. when you do the math and add $5K for all the materials $30K starts to sound cheap. That's why I Qualify my customers and only except two in a year. And of course the car must have a emotional or financial attachment to the client to make any cents.

Ken Maisano


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