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the427king 09-04-2015 05:58 PM

1111499 distributor
 
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Not mine. Anyone ever see one this deeply stamped?

earntaz 09-04-2015 09:02 PM

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Nope!!

Rixls6 09-04-2015 10:17 PM

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Plus, the 4's and the 9's in the part number don't look the same shape as other known 499's.

the427king 09-04-2015 11:03 PM

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"Plus, the 4's and the 9's in the part number don't look the same shape as other known 499's"

Probably due to the stamping being deeper than most. Person that owns it had it for 28 years.

COPO CARTEL 09-04-2015 11:21 PM

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It is real....look at everyone out there that is supposedly real... Look at the "4" with the dots in each corner of the upper triangle. Trust me. It's real plus it's a known date It's not mine and I don't know the owner

Stefano 09-04-2015 11:53 PM

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No, never seen on that deep. Thanks for sharing.

the427king 09-05-2015 12:54 AM

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Heres another real distributor w the same date .....the 9 in the year date and the two 9s in the part number are never the same font.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...16-1111499.jpg

ZLP955 09-05-2015 02:36 AM

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Is the varying starting point of the first '1' away from the step in the dist body (as visible in the above 2 pictures) typical, even between units assembled on the same date?

jl8z28 09-05-2015 02:42 AM

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Look at the grooves in the aluminum they don't look right

marxjunk 09-05-2015 03:22 AM

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looks like a typical service piece to me...but i am no expert..i just observe


they are batch stamped on the more rare, low production distribs..you can see the witness marks on the deeply stamped piece from the gang stamp tool, and that deep you would expect to see them..since they where stamped by hand no 2 would be identical..

and ive seen that exact witness mark many times on buick olds and pontiac more rare and low production parts like stage1 ram air and w30 pieces,,and there are known dates

during early production, like the beginning of the year..you see more "perfect" stamps but during the run GM had no idea during production how many they would need for the line and service combined so a periodic batch of x-many would be produced

ive seen it on more than a few distribs and carbs

the olds guys have figured out the diameter of an orig to compare anything in question..since 4 speed w30 pieces bring so much,,

you could mic the known,if the one in question is smaller, then it could support the idea its been turned and stamped

the427king 09-05-2015 04:05 AM

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To me the A and B on 499s are the real tell tale sign. You will always see a faint A and an almost invisible B on the 9B12s If you look at both the 9A15s above the A is less pronounced than the rest of the characters in each unit ,even though one is harder struck than the other. Also note the number 9 being lower in the date versus the 1 in the date and the crooked A in each,and the 5 being slightly lower than the 1.

L78M22Rag 09-05-2015 05:57 AM

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I think I see what you mean...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...psy8xrl7ba.jpg[/URL]

bergy 09-05-2015 10:51 AM

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Check for the correct "step" where the cap seats (above the stamp). The diameter looks like it has been turned down & the repeat of the lathe marks (wider and narrower grooves) is too perfect. The re-stampers are getting really good characters these days!

iluv69s 09-05-2015 11:13 AM

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on the first dist. there ae 4 wider grooves..is that typical? dont see them on the second unit...and I would think that is very hard to reproduce correctly... I'll have to dig out the real 499 Ive had for years and take a look..

iluv69s 09-05-2015 12:45 PM

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1418-image.jpg


Here is mine...sorry pic not so great and dist dirty...opinions?? Early date...Double stamped 8 in the date?

That first distributor looks NOS or something

iluv69s 09-05-2015 12:51 PM

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My dist does seems like it does have the 4 wider grooves..although very faint now...and 732 cam..i assume thats correct?

COPO CARTEL 09-05-2015 01:20 PM

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The 4 looks correct and a known date

the427king 09-05-2015 02:40 PM

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Here one with deep stamping,very pronounced ribbing,and the tool marks from being hit so hard. I wasn't asking if it is real in my original post because I KNOW its real , im just asking if there were anyone with a deeply stamped 499 ....A member here owns the copo this came out of decades ago.

bergy 09-05-2015 07:58 PM

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I think that you're doing the right thing asking if anyone has ever seen a deep stamp or repeated grove pattern with that date. It really has 2 characteristics not to like. pretty sure that they are roll stamped. Heavy stamp without the gang imprint would also be odd.

brent396 09-05-2015 08:36 PM

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Here Mine http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...IMG_1918-1.jpg

the427king 09-05-2015 09:05 PM

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real 499 w deep lines and pretty deep stamp . Look at the first 2 1s, they are a lot longer than the others... REAL PIECE. I guess its possible to look into things way too much https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-31441-me.jpg

COPO CARTEL 09-05-2015 09:09 PM

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All 3 points are in the corners of the 4 also

bergy 09-06-2015 11:04 AM

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OK - last post on this subject - Fred (L78fred) and I ran into a 499 distributor that had great 4s & 9s. It looked like it had been turned on a lathe though - like the re-stampers do. Turned out that the diameter was indeed undersize and there was very little "step" left where the distributor seats. I thought that it was real - Fred did not. In hindsight, I think that Fred was correct mainly because of uniform turning marks & the small diameter. Those unusual 4 and 9 stamps were "out there" at one time.

I've learned never to say never though.


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