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cook_dw 08-01-2015 08:57 PM

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Dave Rifkin 08-01-2015 09:22 PM

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The finished result looks amazing; what kind of dressing did you put on after you finished with the cleaning process?

mockingbird812 08-02-2015 04:45 PM

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Sweet Darrell. What a story. Good on you to keep it original and pay homage to Dad. Love process threads! Thanks!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

MODERATORS: Recommend moving this to the Garage thread section......

Oops, i didn't realize (or else forgot) we had a preservation forum...

firstgenaddict 08-02-2015 05:35 PM

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That looks great Darrell, I am glad to see someone else really getting the grain clean... the appearance is so much different when it is actually clean. It looks so much better than reproduction, it has character. It takes a lot of work to actually get down into the grain it really takes using light pressure so the ends of the brush don't roll over they have to stand up to get the ends into the grain.

Have you used any of the Meguires #7 glaze on the paint?

markinnaples 08-03-2015 12:41 AM

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Great job, and thanks for all of the pics. I really need to do the same thing to my '68 as the top and interior are almost exactly the same condition as yours pre-cleaning.

firstgenaddict 08-03-2015 12:40 PM

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Yes it is a lot of work but well worth the effort.
There is such an enormous difference in the before and after it's a no brainer.

Keith Seymore 08-04-2015 12:21 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<span style="font-weight: bold">Another point of interest. Front portion of the carpet has 4 MAR 1968 but the rear portion has 5 MAR 1968..</span>

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Those are specific to the supplier/manufacturer (not GM final vehicle assembly) so that makes perfect sense.

There would be several days (or weeks or months - depending on production volume or delays) between when the parts were made and when they were finally installed in a car.

K

Keith Seymore 08-04-2015 12:22 PM

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Would you be willing to come over and clean up my Dad's GTO?

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

K

markinnaples 08-04-2015 04:55 PM

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Great pics!

Billohio 08-05-2015 12:02 AM

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Great work Darrell. Looks good

markinnaples 08-05-2015 02:20 AM

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I am definitely going to try this product for my car. Mine is paint from the 80's and there's some small spots that I'd rather not flood with water to hasten the deterioration process.

SuperNovaSS 08-05-2015 03:26 AM

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Looks great! They make a jobber bottle of glaze for less if you need a decent amount.


Jason

Keith Seymore 08-05-2015 05:45 PM

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Continuing to make excellent progress.

By way of review: the exterior paint is Laquer?

Any checking/spiderwebbing?

K

Keith Seymore 08-05-2015 06:25 PM

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Thank you;

I think I got the worst paint job to ever come out of the Pontiac Michigan assembly plant. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

K

firstgenaddict 08-06-2015 12:23 AM

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We may have a contest Keith...
My 68 Alpine Blue GTO had runs across the whole trunk jamb and the pass door jamb and light sprayed on the rockers...
The 70 Judge conv I painted 15 years ago also a PON car had 2 big globs of lead repairing dents in the door jamb looked like someone jabbed it with a fork lift then repaired it using a butter knife.

Keith Seymore 08-06-2015 12:10 PM

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Not to take us too far afield, but my car features:

Hairs in the paint (quarter panels)
Hand prints in the hood (qty 2)
A &quot;swiped&quot; area on the deck lid where it looks like they wiped off some kind of solvent and then sprayed over it
Front edge of RH door rubs on rear of fender
Sheet metal screw shot through main body wiring harness

Also alot of waviness in the panels (around the hood scoop, when sighting down the quarters and C pillar area)

K

Billohio 08-06-2015 01:12 PM

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I was going to ask if you had tried the clay bar. I think that Griots might have been one of the first with that. Amazing how it works

Lemans69 08-06-2015 02:01 PM

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This is an excellent thread with lots of great pictures and information. Thanks for taking the time and posting your results. Always something new to learn!

firstgenaddict 08-06-2015 04:36 PM

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I have experimented and have come up with a black liquid latex rubber which can be used to repair weatherstrip ends or re-adhere the skin to the foam and is waterproof after curing.
I will take some photos and show what is possible.

scuncio 08-07-2015 04:03 AM

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Great work. Talk about a nice survivor car.

mockingbird812 08-09-2015 02:09 PM

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A great effort Darrell. I love yr parent's poster. Very cool!!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

68l30 08-12-2015 06:07 PM

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Interesting picture...Has the grill been removed from this car? I'm curious about the screws and j nuts holding the brackets on instead of the rivots....

BIG

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...pscyfhuya0.jpg

olredalert 08-13-2015 01:41 PM

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----Possibly a cam change????......Bill S

mockingbird812 08-13-2015 04:44 PM

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Nice excavation/archaeology!!!Keep digging!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

68l30 08-13-2015 07:26 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Possibly a cam change????......Bill S </div></div>


BINGO!


BIG

mockingbird812 08-20-2015 02:35 PM

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Yeah - keep it coming. Nice work Darrell! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

firstgenaddict 08-22-2015 03:08 PM

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AWESOME!! That is exactly what I did to the black RS/Z individually took items off cleaned preserved and reinstalled... it makes all the difference in how the car presents itself. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics....14.10_330.jpg

firstgenaddict 08-22-2015 03:14 PM

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BTW the plates inside the stacks are black anodized... which is really a deep black violet color, having them re-anodize is inexpensive however if you flip them over and swap them side to side all they need is the center peg holes re-drilled (not visible when installed) to work without doing anything and still having the original finish.


There I go giving away trade secrets... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img]

njsteve 08-26-2015 12:53 AM

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Option #4:

I'd swap over to the restored piece but I'd strip off the shiny new black paint first with some carb cleaner and let it get some nice surface rust patina. It should blend in fine then. Keep the disc brakes. They are much safer than the drums.

Here is what my original master cyl looks like in the Firebird. The original lid is still nice and shiny after 42 years.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-p1010454.jpg

mockingbird812 08-26-2015 11:32 PM

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Digging it!!!!

mockingbird812 09-02-2015 01:35 AM

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NIiiiiiiiiice! Well done and inspirational! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

markinnaples 09-15-2015 01:46 PM

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Great job on the underside there, really looks good.

mockingbird812 09-16-2015 11:46 PM

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NIce score Darrell! Of course you will be re-installing that beautifully engineered piece of history..... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

BLACKLS5 09-17-2015 07:16 PM

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Darrell, Here's some 14's for sale. https://limaohio.craigslist.org/pts/5191787691.html

firstgenaddict 09-18-2015 03:40 AM

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IT looks GREAT... what you are doing is what I found so rewarding about the Black RS/Z... there is nothing that looks as good as a well cared for or correctly cleaned and preserved survivor.

Use a left handed drill bit, same section as the EASY OUTS!

chevelleheart 09-21-2015 03:26 AM

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Darrell ,...absolutely great job , on a great car! This has been a great lesson on patience and Thx for posting this

markinnaples 09-23-2015 01:59 AM

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Looks great, keep the pics coming

Dave Rifkin 09-23-2015 11:56 AM

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Do you hose the oven cleaner off or simply wipe it down with a sponge or something? Looks great; just hoping to get a better understanding of the process.

Question regarding the #7 application; after seeing this post I thought I'd try it on my black Corvette. I read the back panel and it said not to allow the stuff to dry on the paint. I thought I had read where you left it on overnight; is that true and did that create problems with removal?

JpMotorsports 09-23-2015 06:54 PM

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AWESOME PROGRESS!!! Keep up the great work and pictures. I for one am learning and enjoying this thread

m22mike 09-24-2015 12:45 AM

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Great stuff Darrell, we are not tired of the pictures, thanks.

Mike [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]


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