Can NCRS services sometimes be incorrect ?
 

Can NCRS services sometimes be incorrect or can early Chevrolet book keeping have flaws?

The reason is, I ran a report through NCRS services and it can back that my car was sold from a different dealer then what my cars was purchased from. My car, a 1967 Camaro SS/RS 396, was purchased from Dana Chevrolet in 1967 and comes with the original Protect-O-plate from Dana Chevrolet. The NCRS came back that my car was delivered to a different Chevy Dealership that was within 5 miles from Dana Chevrolet. I read somewhere that someone else also had a Dana car with a POP and their NCRS came back different from a Dana delivery.
I was told by someone that it was common that Chevy would move cars around from dealer to dealer in a general area to balance the model cars when needed. Dana Chevrolet sold only the harder to find Hi performance cars, so was it possible that they got cars pulled from other Dealers that were close by.

How accurate as GM’s 1960’ book keeping? What do you think?
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Sounds like a Dealer trade between the 2...Very common back then,and still done today.
My 2012 was.

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The Fathom Blue LS6 convert that was in Texas is a prime example of that and killed it for a lot of people that were interested in the car as they thought something was amiss. Upon researching the car we found the selling dealer was across the river but in another state but only about 10 miles away so it was totally legit.

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Same here. Tin soldier COPO was purchased from queen city Chevrolet, but ncrs reported a different dealer in another state. Probably a dealer trade as Ron wanted a black th400copo and got a red 4 speed one instead.

Rich

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What dealer was your car originally delivered to?

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It was originally delivered to code 6 zone 20 - Angelus Chevrolet in L.A. I think Dana Chevrolet is code 5 zone 20

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the pop should tell you who sold the car.

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As example, the Yenkos have NCRS reports showing shipment to Yenko Chevrolet, but as documented on this site very many of those cars were originally sold from other dealerships.

- Wade

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1967danaed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can NCRS services sometimes be incorrect or can early Chevrolet book keeping have flaws?

The reason is, I ran a report through NCRS services and it can back that my car was sold from a different dealer then what my cars was purchased from. My car, a 1967 Camaro SS/RS 396, was purchased from Dana Chevrolet in 1967 and comes with the original Protect-O-plate from Dana Chevrolet. The NCRS came back that my car was delivered to a different Chevy Dealership that was within 5 miles from Dana Chevrolet. I read somewhere that someone else also had a Dana car with a POP and their NCRS came back different from a Dana delivery.
I was told by someone that it was common that Chevy would move cars around from dealer to dealer in a general area to balance the model cars when needed. Dana Chevrolet sold only the harder to find Hi performance cars, so was it possible that they got cars pulled from other Dealers that were close by.

How accurate as GM’s 1960’ book keeping? What do you think?
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Yes, for example I received the following information on my pace car:

Zone 11 Dealer 372 and list dealer as Max Meyers Motors in Middlebury , IN. The information I had gotten prior from speaking to original owners son was they purchased it at McManus Chevrolet Chicago, Il.

I went to the NCRS data base and plugged the zone and dealer # and showed McManus Chevy, Chicago, IL in 1970. It was later confirmed via a window sticker that my car was sold at McManus Chevrolet.

In my opinion their records are not complete, especially with dealer name and address. I've gotten a few back with just zone and dealer#, but its a start and a piece of the puzzle.

Good luck....

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i have a yenko and mine came back --&gt; from yenko so which ones are we talking about that didnt originate from yenko ???

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I'm involved in Pontiac window sticker reproductions. As you know, Pontiacs don't have an issue with documentation. PHS, who can supply a copy of the original invoice, is the true document that proves how your car was equipped and where it was shipped. I've researched hundreds of original 1964-1979 Pontiac window stickers, and can offer some opinion on this subject.

Dealers swapped cars, which leads to some confusion with original documentation. I've received many orders for window stickers, some requests are from original owners, where the dealer name on the PHS invoice is different than their original documentation (original sales receipts, bill of sale, etc).

How did this happen?

Bob Adams is an expert on this topic as he sold Pontiacs for many years. In discussions with him, he gave me some insight as to various dealer techniques.

In some cases, a new dealership would open, and inventory would be pulled from surrounding dealerships to fill the new dealerships lot. In other cases, dealers would work out a swap for a specific car that a customer wants. A salesman would do whatever it took to close a deal, hopefully before the customer walked out the door, or at least the next day or two, while the customer was still &quot;hot&quot; to buy a car. The salesman would check the Zone Inventory lot, and if nothing was available, try to locate the specific car (model, engine, color, etc) at a surrounding dealership. If found, a swap or purchase would be made from that dealer, and the car would be transported to the selling dealer for the customer.

The selling dealer would usually not want the window sticker to reflect the other dealership, so a request would be sent to the zone office to have a new window sticker issued with the selling dealers name and address. In some cases (and I have examples of this), they forgot to change the dealer code on the window sticker, so you Dealer &quot;ABC&quot; for the name and address, but with Dealer &quot;CAB&quot;'s dealer code.

Mike

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That's exactly what happened to my '70 Trans am. It was invoiced to a dealer in Tennessee as reflected on the PHS invoice but sold new in Ft. Meyers Fl.

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all neat info..thanks guys.....
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so in regards to the protecto-plates, did the dealers make them?? or were they requested from zone office?? I seem to remeber seeing a thread about cars being reissued protecto-plates when resold if still under warranty??

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the dealers made the plates