MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

Knowing how scarce real 409 cars are, we would like to extend the invitation to owners of real-deal 409 cars to join us for a very special gathering at the Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals show this year. We have enlisted the help of Verne Frantz, who is recognized as an authority on these cars.

To quote Verne from his previous post;

<span style="font-style: italic">I am already on the quest. I'd like to see this become the most prestigious gathering of REAL 409 cars that has ever been put together. There are thousands of 409 cars out there since the last 20 years or so but you can count the real ones without using up all your fingers and toes.</span>

We would really like to see one of each horsepower, so that would be 1 ’61, 2 ‘62s, 3 ‘63s, 3 ’64s and 2 ‘65s.

Let's make it happen and make some more history! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif[/img]

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

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We are always up for a challenge, and that is what makes the MCACN show a show unlike any other. Who would have thought that we would be able to lineup over 60 Yenko's, 40+ Aero Cars, 6 of the 8 Trans Am convertobles, over a dozen Baldwin-Motion cars, or this year, nearly 20 very real 426 Hemi Mopar E-body convertibles?

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and that is what makes the MCACN show a show unlike any other.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

After the first show I wondered how anything could ever top it, then said the same thing after the second, and the third, and the fourth,...........you get the picture. If there is still anyone who has not attended this show you have no idea what you are missing.

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We're off and running, with our first <span style="font-style: italic">Official</span> entry for this very special display. Thanks go out to the Dykstra family for making the commitment to show their gorgeous and very real 1962 409 Impala, and kicking this one into gear!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOLS3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and that is what makes the MCACN show a show unlike any other.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

After the first show I wondered how anything could ever top it, then said the same thing after the second, and the third, and the fourth,...........you get the picture. If there is still anyone who has not attended this show you have no idea what you are missing. </div></div>

Thanks Jake. Word-of-mouth is without a doubt our best source of advertising, especially from respected members of the hobby like you and your Dad. Realistically, I can go on and on to those who have not yet joined us, (as I often do!) but I know it can come off as some typical promoter spewing the typical B.S.

<span style="font-style: italic">For all who have been at the show and believe in what we are doing, please help us spread the word!</span>

THANKS!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

One down............11 to go. My work has just begun. It's the best job I've ever had in the last 20 years (except for judging in Vintage Certification last year) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img]

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOLS3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and that is what makes the MCACN show a show unlike any other.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

After the first show I wondered how anything could ever top it, then said the same thing after the second, and the third, and the fourth,...........you get the picture. If there is still anyone who has not attended this show you have no idea what you are missing. </div></div>

AGREED!!!!

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

I'm going to take Dan's PostSedan list idea and post this wanted list for the roster of real 409 cars needed.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp
8. 1964: 409 340hp
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]

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I'd love to see the black/red 63 425 Horse car that TimG recently sold. That car had it all - born with drivetrain, 4.56 rear, great colors, and some race history.

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm going to take Dan's PostSedan list idea and post this wanted list for the roster of real 409 cars needed.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp
8. 1964: 409 340hp
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

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WOW! What a lineup. Can't wait to see this happen.

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

Are you going after any aluminum front end cars?

Zintmaster? (spelling?)

Ryan

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you going after any aluminum front end cars?

Zintmaster? (spelling?)

Ryan </div></div>

Other than a Z-11, I'm not sure. We'll see how things shape up over time. I know it's a very significant car and sure to be a crowd pleaser.

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Do I have to wash it ?

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All '64, 409/425, original paint, post cars qualify for a free detail.

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do I have to wash it ? </div></div>

....... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

I absolutely love the old post 409s and 427 Bel airs [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

Are there any Canadian Pontiac factory 409 cars booked yet?
Again as I've mentioned here before, all available info indicates W-motor vehicle assembly continued in Canada after the Jan/65 change to MK1V's in the USA also that THE LAST 409 passenger vehicle built was a Canadian '65 Pontiac.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sixtiesmuscle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All '64, 409/425, original paint, post cars qualify for a free detail. </div></div>

Cant remove the patina , the original Pall Mall butts or the mouse crap.

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

Guaranteed Bob. Now, who wants to weigh in and vote so they can see Bob's rare &amp; unbelievable 409?

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I vote for it to be there...But Bob has to be there, too! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I vote for it to be there...But Bob has to be there, too! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img] </div></div>

Yea, git that POS to the show so I can finally meet the infamous Gags... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif[/img]

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I'll vote for this!!

Looking forward to meeting and checking out your ol car!!

Ryan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do I have to wash it ? </div></div>

No...we'll get Sixtiesmuscle to handle that for you.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

Oh and another thing...I need some help parking cars! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sixtiesmuscle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guaranteed Bob. Now, who wants to weigh in and vote so they can see Bob's rare &amp; unbelievable 409? </div></div>

In true Chicago fashion, I intend to vote &quot;Early &amp; Often&quot;!!!

AND, ........... I volunteer for cleaning detail! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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This car is original owner, 1 repaint, original paint in the jambs trunk etc and original interior as well as vtop.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...rags%2B045.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...rags%2B024.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9...rags%2B041.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B...rags%2B048.JPG

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Pleased to announce Mr. Piscitello will be joining us with his 1962 original, unrestored 409/380 Bel Air. This beautiful black red interior car is without a doubt one of, if not the, finest unrestored example in existence.

Whew!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pleased to announce Mr. Piscitello will be joining us with his 1962 original, unrestored 409/380 Bel Air. This beautiful black red interior car is without a doubt one of, if not the, finest unrestored example in existence.

Whew!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

This is the one I was hoping for!

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markjohnson</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pleased to announce Mr. Piscitello will be joining us with his 1962 original, unrestored 409/380 Bel Air. This beautiful black red interior car is without a doubt one of, if not the, finest unrestored example in existence.

Whew!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

This is the one I was hoping for! </div></div>

Agreed...what a cool ride! Click Here for the Members Ride!

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Oh Lord, now a 409 display? You're making missing these shows harder and harder....

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Since we really like unearthing the <span style="font-style: italic">real oddities</span>, (like the 4-door '66 Hemi Coronet last year!) does anyone know of any <span style="font-style: italic">real</span> 409 Wagons? I am sure they made at least a few...

If so, please let me know; [email protected]

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since we really like unearthing the <span style="font-style: italic">real oddities</span>, (like the 4-door '66 Hemi Coronet last year!) does anyone know of any <span style="font-style: italic">real</span> 409 Wagons? I am sure they made at least a few...

If so, please let me know; [email protected]

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

Here is a real oddity, a QB 409 turned into a V4 for a midget sprint car. Unfortunately it was never finished.
Chad
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3c2a6840.jpg
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/...ps353d736b.jpg
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1844334e.jpg
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/...pse1e8a109.jpg

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That V4 is pretty neat, any idea what the ignition plan was?
There's a few factory 409 Wagons out there, here's a link to a cool 4-Spd up here in Canada...
http://www.bruneauperformance.ca/my1...safari409.html

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> does anyone know of any <span style="font-style: italic">real</span> 409 Wagons? I am sure they made at least a few...
</div></div>

Last one I saw was a red 65 09 wagon about 40 years ago. It was at a local bone yard. Likely been recycled into Toyotas several times over by now.

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That V4 is pretty neat, any idea what the ignition plan was?
There's a few factory 409 Wagons out there, here's a link to a cool 4-Spd up here in Canada...
http://www.bruneauperformance.ca/my1...safari409.html

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete


</div></div>

Pete, the ignition was going to be crank trigger.

Re: MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm going to take Dan's PostSedan list idea and post this wanted list for the roster of real 409 cars needed.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp (registered)
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp
8. 1964: 409 340hp
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

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Does anybody know where Frank Spittle's 1964 409/425hp 4 speed wagon ended up? I would love to see that one up close and personal.

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There was a long thread over on Chevy Talk about a 62 409/409 wagon sitting in the woods. Used as a tow car back in the day for the 63 Max Wedge Plymouth that was also parked in the woods.

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Its still in process (lotsa work and donor metal) but that would be a helluva car to see as well

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As incredible as that 409/409 wagon was, the other car that was sitting next to it in those woods was pretty spectacular also.