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427TJ 01-16-2015 11:49 PM

1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Would the (California cars) SMOG equipment, hoses, brackets, etc. be the same for all '67 L35s (396/325) regardless of application? Seems to me it would not be car specific but rather engine specific. Anyone know?

427TJ 01-19-2015 06:35 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Stumper?

My buddy just bought an untouched '67 Impala SS L35/Th400, all the SMOG, carb, air cleaner, everything intact, and I want the SMOG for my '67 L35/Th400 Camaro.

Xplantdad 01-19-2015 06:45 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
I thought that the smog that you need comes from the Corvettes...not the big cars...which is why it's so damn expensive! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

427TJ 01-19-2015 07:18 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
&quot;I need a part for a 1972 Monte Carlo.&quot;
&quot;Here ya go.&quot;
&quot;How come it's so expensive?&quot;
&quot;Because it's for a Corvette.&quot;
&quot;But I have a '72 Monte Carlo.&quot;
&quot;It's for a Corvette.&quot;
&quot;Do you have one for a Monte Carlo that isn't so expensive?&quot;
&quot;It fits on Corvettes.&quot;
&quot;Nevermind.&quot;

Xplantdad 01-20-2015 12:35 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
LOL...

Some old info here...

http://www.camaros.net/forums/archiv...p/t-50358.html

Tarrytown SS427s 01-20-2015 12:55 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
I just paid good money for a smog system for my 68 Impala because as he said &quot;It fits on Camaros and Chevelles&quot;. The irony is that a Camaro guy raped it off of an untouched 68 Impala back in the 80s to use on a Camaro.

427TJ 01-20-2015 06:11 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Those damn Camaro guys!

Good info Bruce, thanks!

427TJ 01-20-2015 06:14 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Stumper?

My buddy just bought an untouched '67 Impala SS L35/Th400, all the SMOG, carb, air cleaner, everything intact, and I want the SMOG for my '67 L35/Th400 Camaro. </div></div>

By the way Steve, my buddy bought just the engine, not a whole car. Seller had the engine, untouched right down to the old AC spark plugs and big chrome-lid single snorkel air cleaner, sitting in a corner of his shop for decades and my buddy bought it for a build and doesn't need the smog system. Seller sold off the Impala long ago.

Tarrytown SS427s 01-20-2015 09:13 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Sounds like a nice find!!

travlnz28 01-20-2015 10:06 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Here's my California Camaro

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-p1020546.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-p1020547.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-p1020548.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-p1020549.jpg

Xplantdad 01-21-2015 12:25 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
That's cool as heck! It would be neat get the part numbers off of all the main parts [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

hiperf406 01-21-2015 03:05 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
If you need smog equipment I have used Bill Hodel for my LS6 &amp; he is the guy for smog equipment. He refinishes original equipment &amp; is very nice. You can find info on him n Hemmings under services.

olredalert 01-21-2015 01:22 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
----I have known Bill for 30 some years and he is the best......Bill S

427TJ 01-21-2015 09:20 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Thanks Gregg for the photos of your Camaro smog setup. I'll check Hemmings for Bill Hodel as well. Thanks for that too.

travlnz28 01-22-2015 02:08 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Like Bruce suggested if you need any part numbers let me know and I'll see what I can get

Xplantdad 01-22-2015 11:58 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Gregg, If you can get them...please let me know. I know that my brothers is only missing a few parts [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

427TJ 01-23-2015 08:24 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
I decided to trade my buddy for that complete '67 Impala L35 with the untouched smog system. I told him not to touch it! My 396 needs a rebuild so having the smog setup is a big step in putting things right* under the hood.

*I am of the mindset, after reading replies and looking over that Impala setup that the smog system is, for all intents and purposes, exactly the same as a Camaro's. I seriously doubt that GM would spend the money to have different smog bits/brackets for each '67 L35 application. Is that fair to assume?

Tarrytown SS427s 01-23-2015 09:45 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
I think you're probably correct about this, though I don't know much about the 66-67 systems like I do 68. I can't think of any reason why they would have to be different between the two vehicles. Could you post some detail pictures of the engine assembly for reference purposes? Also, a picture of the engine stamp pad would be great if possible.

Kurt S 01-24-2015 05:11 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Time to study some parts books....

427TJ 01-24-2015 05:09 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think you're probably correct about this, though I don't know much about the 66-67 systems like I do 68. I can't think of any reason why they would have to be different between the two vehicles. Could you post some detail pictures of the engine assembly for reference purposes? Also, a picture of the engine stamp pad would be great if possible. </div></div>

I told my buddy not to so much as remove the air cleaner before I can photo-document the whole engine. I'll have him send a pic of the pad.

427TJ 01-24-2015 05:10 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurt S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Time to study some parts books.... </div></div>

Oh good! Kurt's on the case!

427TJ 01-24-2015 05:48 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
My buddy snapped some iPhone pics. I lightened them up a little to reveal more detail.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...pscdzwfchz.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps8zn9d5dk.jpg

Two elbows in the air cleaner base, one to the valve cover and the other to the center hose from the back of the smog pump. Open element CA-smog air cleaner bases have two elbows as well:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psbhd9av3n.jpg

Gray plastic doohickey was installed 35 years ago when original car, the Impala, was smogged for annual tags:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps401fkcn6.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps2ait07ez.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psqrb9la8d.jpg

Power steering pump unbolted:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psetfku9go.jpg

Back of smog pump:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psme3x1ehp.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psj2uvdoyt.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps1uvdspcv.jpg

427TJ 01-24-2015 06:54 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Brackets:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psh0l0db7y.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...pseggb75za.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psty2qwep2.jpg

427TJ 01-24-2015 07:13 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
What could this bracket be for?

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...pshx7myek2.jpg

427TJ 01-24-2015 07:41 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: travlnz28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's my California Camaro

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-p1020546.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-p1020547.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-p1020548.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-p1020549.jpg
</div></div>

I notice different pump mounting bracket, maybe different pump with only one hose connection on the back that goes to the air cleaner base, pass side AIR hose routes under pump and seems to connect to driver side AIR assembly.

Kurt S 01-24-2015 07:42 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
It looks to have the correct RH valve cover.
http://www.camaros.org/engine.shtml#bbcover

427TJ 01-24-2015 10:23 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Yes, it has that cradle bracket for the smog hose (that goes to the back of the carb) to rest on.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps2bhuugbl.jpg

427TJ 01-24-2015 10:47 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Choke and behind the carb:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psj3knhfmr.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psgf7uaz2i.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...pstjpx6c6y.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psllftme8i.jpg

Yeah, it isn't L78 or L72 cool but I'm digging it.

427TJ 01-24-2015 11:55 PM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Another friend of mine shot this '67 RS/SS L35 at a show last summer. Looks like travlnz28's '67 setup. Maybe they are different between Camaros and Impalas?

This guy's setup is way out from the valve covers. Pass side hose seems to route to the bottom of the pump. Driver side hose routes to pump but I can't tell how it connects.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psejbjmmd3.jpg

Tarrytown SS427s 01-25-2015 12:13 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
Thanks for the excellent pictures! Looks like it was from a South Gate car, and whomever stamped the vin wasn't concerned with going over the N on the suffix! I'll take a look through my library of pictures and see if between that and parts books we can figure out if the Camaros and Impalas shared any of the smog stuff.

427TJ 01-25-2015 12:33 AM

Re: 1967 L35 SMOG question
 
From what I'm seeing on the Google, the Impala pump on my buddy's old Impala L35 engine is the same as a '67 L78 Camaro pump. Same hose connections, all three hoses, on the back of the pump. Z/28 too. L35 seems to have the two hoses from the AIR pipes on the exhaust manifolds connecting to the bottom of the smog pump. '67 assembly manual shows this too--the L78 and Z using the same pump connections as on the old Impala engine but the L35 having two of the connections on the bottom of the pump. A pump for sale on Heartbeat City for '67 Camaro L35 shows the connections on the bottom also.


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