1969 Pace Car
 

What do you think? A friend pulled the trigger on this one last night.

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orig. paint ??

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Matt, can you let me know more information? There is a local Pacer I'm considering and curious to see what your buddy's find is about. PM me?

Thanks,
Dan

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Well the tag is original...

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I agree with Steve that the TT itself looks to be real. But check the stampings on the brake hold-off valve and see if it jives with the build date of the car. I understand that some cars never came with them but worth a look. Also, was the original Orange Houndstooth interior always with the car if any? Is it safe to say that there were ink-stamped dates on the backside of the door panels?

SAL

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He bought it on ebay....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-camaro-pace...=p2047675.l2557

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To me the car looks like it has been stripped down to bare metal, If you look at the cowl you can see some original orange paint from the stripes, Tail panel looks to have original white paint on it, Has white top 12 bolt front discs deluxe door panels which could have been changed to black when the seats where changed, Steering wheel is correct car has a tilt wheel. Trim tag is solid, Rivets are correct I would say its a pace car but more pictures would help out.

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He's gonna be way upside down in that car and still not gonna be a numbers car!

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True it will never be a good financial investment, but perhaps a fun project and a stress reliever.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">True it will never be a good financial investment, but perhaps a fun project and a stress reliever. </div></div>

The only stress relief he'll have is when it's done.....lol

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The way I see it, you can't touch a stock 1969 Camaro coupe project around here for under 7K. This is a pacer convert LOL

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It is also an &quot;early&quot; Pace Car. Most of what I've seen (or had) were closer to the date of the race.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DannyLCMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">True it will never be a good financial investment, but perhaps a fun project and a stress reliever. </div></div>

The only stress relief he'll have is when it's done.....lol </div></div>some people achieve relief when they're working on the car!

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A vehicle shipper report showing delivery to the Chevrolet Zone (25 Indy) would be Golden on this car.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DannyLCMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He's gonna be way upside down in that car and still not gonna be a numbers car! </div></div> Right, and if anything has to be farmed out..I'd say this is a case where a done one would have made more sense. i do all my own work and this looks ambitious even to me.

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Wow, that is a heap (sorry to the buyer), not a sign of any RS equipment, tail panel is non RS, grille is non RS, tag is definitely real and never been removed from the firewall, but just about everything around it has been reworked over time, tops wasted, 68 seats, dyed? interior panels. How's the floors, looking at the rest of the interior I would think its probably a little rusty? That's a 40-45K restoration job without farming it out, probably close to 100K if you have to farm it out. Lotta work there to bring this one back with 0 chance of anykind of payback other than self satisfaction.

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I say do what makes you happy. I feel that the restoration process is more fun than the car done. Once it is done, you are afraid to drive it anyway!

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Tough crowd.

Jason

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very tuff....lol

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I'll inform my friend to immediately bring it to the junkyard. Obviously, and from what I'm reading, cool cars that need total restoration aren't worth saving.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll inform my friend to immediately bring it to the junkyard. Obviously, and from what I'm reading, cool cars that need total restoration aren't worth saving. </div></div>

Matt, the term coined from the gold '69 L78 Camaro thread I believe was junk box... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]

Save the car, have a blast, enjoy the project!

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Hands up all of us who are or have been upside down in a car.

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Anyone that has ever bought a new car has been upside down from the first time they drove it.

It is possible, on occasion, that some people buy old cars to enjoy them rather than make money on them.

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Love the idea of this car being saved. It's a challenge and will be something to be very proud of if successful. Don't like it when cars are looked at as investments. I put a few thousand a year into my 04 Highlander cuz I love it. It's probably worth $4k!

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I think those that restore these cars to make money are the ones upside down, but on the other hand it's their job too especially if they have to take care of their family. Seems like a fine line anymore in what use to be called a hobby. Although the car isn't at all completely original it is a decent looking project if someone wants to deal with what it's going to take to get it right. Putting it back is the fun part. IDK, just thinking out loud.

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I just put a new $4,000.00 transmission in my 06 Mountaineer (157,000 miles). I made 4 trips to Nova Scotia and back to Houston. Actually towed my COPO back with it. Loved it but she was starting to cost more than the payments on a new one. Traded it a few months ago and got $2,000.00 for it. And now I'm upside down in a BMW.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CanCOPO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hands up all of us who are or have been upside down in a car. </div></div>

I like it, but that's me. I see a car like that as a great Father/Son-Daughter project, if I had the space and time it would have been a great car to restore for me and Amanda (who is now asking why her brother's have full size cars and she doesn't.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img] ) I heard this same flack when I bought my Deuce (in 1996!), shake it off and move on....

Before:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...pse7a2355f.jpg

After:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...ps06d23dc7.jpg


I guess we should toss these as well? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...igsSilver5.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...dysBluecar.jpg

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WOW!! It really amazes me why these cars are left like that. Look at the wheel opening on the quarter of the silver Nova. I wonder if that actually kept the quarter from rusting away there since it's sitting out side. I've never been lucky enough to see one of those cars let alone all those. Sweet.

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It was in the process of being flared for dirt track racing!

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Matt, When is your buddy getting it back home? The car was about a hour from me. Too big of a project for me but I may have taken a road trip to take a peek if I had seen it on Ebay. You never know what else a guy may have laying around. Good luck to your friend and I hope she sees the road again.

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The guy is supposedly delivering it Saturday.