1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Bottom line up front - - if you're a limp-wristed pantywaist, please close this window and move to another car. If you're looking for "bling," same deal. This is a no-nonsense car that was designed to go fast in a straight line and not much else.

It's an original 1970 PHS documented GTO equipped with a Ram Air IV, M21 4 speed, and 4.33 rear gears. Pepper Green with black guts. Manual drum brakes, manual steering, bench seat, dog dishes. No radio. Awarded "Best Concours Restored" at the 2013 GTOAA Nationals out of 93 cars vying for that award.

It's been finished since July 2013 and has maybe 1 mile on the resto. Speaking of resto, it was done by Darrell Davidson and his crew at Supercar Creations in Norton, OH. Darrell is a hardcore Pontiac guy (he owns a few roundport Judges himself) and has been a GTO Association of America judge for several years, so he knows what right looks like. Darrell is a stickler for details, of course, and this car was completed with an extensive use of NOS and restored OEM parts. As you can imagine, all the hardware is correct (i.e., correct NOS pinch clamps in the right color with the square edges, etc, etc, etc), all bolts have correct foundry markings (including the impossible to find RAIV specific "NL" valve cover bolts), and the work is flawless. The restoration was highly documented; I probably have a few hundred pictures.

The drivetrain is correct, but the block is not original; it's a date correct WW code RAIV block. The original block is actually still around; I do not have it, but I have seen it, touched it, and have pictures of it. It was removed from the car in the 70's after it spun a bearing; the guy who bought it built it for a 1970 RAIV Judge that he has, and it's been sitting on an engine stand for 10+ years waiting to go into the Judge. I have obviously not been able to talk him out of the engine or block.

Anyway, back to the engine in the car - it's been built to Pure Stock Drags specs (externally correct, some internal mods [more compression, H-beam rods, very minor cam changes] allowed) by noted Pontiac builder Jim Lehart at Central Virginia Machine. Jim has been building Pontiacs for 30+ years and is very well know in the Pontiac community. He also turns wrenches on the world's fastest Pontiac, so he knows what he's doing. Cliff Ruggles built the 273 carb. Also has the correct 2011 distributor, of course, and the exceptionally difficult to find 436 starter. The engine was run-in on a test stand prior to being installed, so the cam has been broken in.

Transmission is the correct M21, but built with M22 guts by Jody Haag. Most folks here probably know of Jody; he's one of the top Muncie guys in the country. Pete Serio did the shifter, which is topped by an incredibly difficult to find NOS "tennis ball" shift knob.

Jim Mitschke built the rear; it has an aftermarket diff, new 4.33 gears from Fabcraft, and aftermarket axles.

The car was sold new at Wells Pontiac in Richmond, Indiana. Wells was a well-known dealership that sold several notable cars during the musclecar era. I purchased the car in 2007 while finishing up a 15-month deployment to Iraq (it was a deployment gift); it was still in Richmond when I purchased it.

The car was restored as delivered with a few exceptions - it was originally equipped with bucket seats, console, 8 track and AM radio. Now it's bench, no radio. I felt that the bench seat and no radio/console/8 track were more consistent with the M21/4.33/manual steering/manual brakes go fast theme that I was looking for.

The car will be featured in an upcoming issue of Muscle Car Review (see pg. 54 of the November 2013 issue for a preview).

The car is at Darrell's shop in Ohio, but it will be at MCACN; I'm stationed in Korea and can't make the show, but Darrell will be there showing it.

Selling because the restoration got out of control and it makes zero sense for me right now to own a six-figure musclecar.

Price is $120k. I'm taking a real beating at that price of course. Partial trades (value of up to $30k or so) considered.

PM if you have questions.

Thanks for the ad.

Scott Walters


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Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

HMMMMMMMM...interesting

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Not a big green fan however the car looks killer. Good luck with the sale

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: weranc55</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not a big green fan however the car looks killer. Good luck with the sale </div></div>

Thanks for the compliment. Didn't want to do another Orbit Orange Judge clone; enough of those out there already.

Scott

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

What a car.

Love every thing about it.

Best of luck with the sale.

Ryan

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Dan

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: weranc55</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not a big green fan </div></div>

Me, either, but that car's cool.

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

All I can say is WOW!!!
My right wrist HAS been, and is still hurting, but I continued on and read the ad anyway. Other than the whole &quot;Pontiac&quot; thing (I'm an Olds guy), I really see NOTHING that isn't the way I like 'em AND the way it should be. GREAT RESTORATION to say the least! I'm a big fan of that color and did a '72 442 (remember the Olds addiction) in a shade close to that. Personally, I'm a little tired of the reds, blacks, and even silvers, so kudos on the Green. I'm seeing a sudden resurgence of the &quot;Earth Tone&quot; colors becoming more and more popular and with today's quality of materials and talent out there, some of the latest builds INCLUDING this one are breathtaking. Congrats on the outcome and I wish you nothing but good luck on the sale. Too bad you might lose some money on such a special car. P.S. Pete did a shifter for me, too---his work, in my opinion, is worth every penny

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

that is one beautiful car

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Thanks, fellas. Appreciate all the kind words about the car.

DW31S - yes, it is a special car. Only 324 (or was it 327? - get the numbers mixed up with a 71 GTX that I had) non-Judge GTO's with RAIV and 4 sp. Would love to get it on a scale; has to be the lightest '70 GTO or close to it.

Thanks

Scott

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Scored 997/1000 at MCACN. Deducted for a repop rearview mirror. I'll fix that.

Thanks,

Scott

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Scott,

I saw your car at MCACN. Absolutely beautiful. Supercar Creations does fantastic work. Love the color too.

BTW Thank you for your service. GLWS.

Dave

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

<span style="font-size: 14pt">Saw your baby too Scott and <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">she</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline">is</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline">a</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline">honey</span></span> </span>to be sure! Best of luck and thank you for your service to our country! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]</span>

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BTW Scott - what are the dyno numbers (increased CR) on this beast? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Thanks for all the compliments fellas.

Sam - it hasn't been run on a dyno, just had the combo run through some of the better software. It's a bit shy of 500 hp; certainly much better than the factory rating of 370 hp.

Thanks,

Scott

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[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] thanks!

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

The factory rating was never 370HP. Ive dynoed 2 ram iv engines i had built both pretty much stock and they came in around 440 hp. They only said that in publications because of the horsepower to weight ratio. 3700lb car

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTO_DON</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The factory rating was never 370HP. Ive dynoed 2 ram iv engines i had built both pretty much stock and they came in around 440 hp. They only said that in publications because of the horsepower to weight ratio. 3700lb car </div></div>

I think we all realize that factory ratings were often inaccurate, but if the factory said in publications/stated that the RAIV had 370 hp, that's the &quot;factory rating.&quot; At least that's what I understand it to be, and I think that's the common understanding.

Surprising that the RAIV is only rated at 4 hp more than the RAIII, which came in at 366 hp.

Scott

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We may never know why they said it was only 4 more hp but I can definitely tell you the difference is staggering. A ram iv will run circles around a III car and I stand by the horsepower difference.
The difference is about the same as driving a LS5 and a LS6

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Car is still available.

Thanks,

Scott

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Spent some time at Yongsan...Good times at the Dragon Hill (and other &quot;hills&quot; I've heard no longer exist). I was a Korean Linguist so I spent a LOT of time in that part of the Pacific, most of it well north of Yongsan. Back to the topic at hand, that's one beautiful car, wish I could swing it! Thank you for your service Scott. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: twertsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Spent some time at Yongsan...Good times at the Dragon Hill (and other &quot;hills&quot; I've heard no longer exist). I was a Korean Linguist so I spent a LOT of time in that part of the Pacific, most of it well north of Yongsan. Back to the topic at hand, that's one beautiful car, wish I could swing it! Thank you for your service Scott. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img] </div></div>

Hey, thanks for your service as well! Yongsan is nice, but sure don't have any muscle cars here. Can't even find parts for my 99 Yukon beater.

I see that you live in Woodbridge; those are actually my old stomping grounds. I was working in Arlington from '08-'11 (before BRAC moved everything to Belvoir) and lived off Minnieville near 234. You may have seen me riding around in a white '67 street/strip Fairlane, hemi orange 68 hemi Roadrunner, a beater/primer 69 Judge, or a few others.

Scott

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

I live about a mile from where you lived, if that.

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Car is no longer for sale. Thanks for the compliments and the interest.

Scott

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Going to Mecum (Indy), going across the block on Friday, 16 May.

Scott

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Scott,
Let me know if you got my emails.

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NOTIME</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott,
Let me know if you got my emails. </div></div>

Yep. Sent you a reply.

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

No Sale @ $79K [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] Scott perhaps a deal can be made as...&quot;The Bid Goes On&quot;

Dan

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

&quot;The bid goes on&quot; is a nice way to allow us slow pokes a little time to get some cash out of out kids college funds to buy muscle cars:-)

Ryan

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All I can say is........ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif[/img]

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Damn, thats a nice looking GTO...love the dog dish caps...and the color is awesome!

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

This GTO is now on consignment with NicKey. $120,000.00 obo, trades considered up or down and financing is available to well qualified customers.

The GTO is located at our facility in Saint Charles, Illinois.

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

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Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Truly stunning; beautiful car. GLWS.

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

Only one thing wrong with this car. It's like the girl you want, but she belongs to someone else.

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Agree.

That GTO really pushes my buttons.

Ryan

GLWS

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Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

RA IV on eBay

Will consider a nice COPO Camaro or Chevelle project on trade.

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

eBay make an offer

Re: 1970 RAIV GTO, M21, 4.33, "Best Concours Restored"
 

New price, $109,000.00 obo to trades considered.