1969 Copo Chevelle
 

Below in this forum is my previous post regarding the MQ block I have purchased to an original 1969 double COPO car. I have tracked the car from the second owner in 1981 through 5 owners later to the year 2000/2001. My search has gone cold so I am forced to make the tough decision not in the interest of self greed but because this car needs to be found and restored and for all to enjoy.

The car was last registered through Colorado DMV in 1994 and sold in Idaho in 1997. The car has never been registered in the state of Idaho. The car was last seen in Merdian/Boise Idaho in 2000/2001 and was faded forest green with one fender missing and was basically a rolling chassis with no interior. I have no other option but to post the vin and see if someone else find's the car. Yes, I know I will be forced to make a decision to either sell the motor or negotiate the purchase of the car with the person that finds it.

The vin is 136379B412654 and I will not post pictures of the vin stamped on the block until the car is found and the owner and I come to an agreement. The vin stamped on the block is clearly original with the deck broach marks and there are identifying characteristics of the stamping that would be very difficult to reproduce.

I know there are a lot of people in this hobby that own these rare cars as an item, something to have because they can. Then there are those people who are truly connected to these cars and live through the hobby. I am one of the latter. I love Chevrolet and the history of what was back in the day. Thanks and I hope we can find this rare piece of history!

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Good deal. when yr VIN is placed in Google, it shows up as being on Chevelle Tech. Good luck!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Good deal. when yr VIN is placed in Google, it shows up as being on Chevelle Tech. Good luck! </div></div>

I wish it would have been that easy. I posted the same thread on the Chevelles.com website much to my displeasure. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

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As long as the VIN pops up here or there, its good in case the owner does a VIN search on line. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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Good luck with you search! I hope you get some info.

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Out of 154 people that have viewed the thread how many do you suppose are trying to find a needle in a haystack right now? I hope someone finds this car soon so I can sleep at night!!!

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I bet a lot of other viewers like myself are waiting to here a good outcome from your search. It would be great to see your engine reunited with the original car and I hope you can find the car at an affordable price.

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I hope you find the car. What do you mean by double COPO? Was there a double COPO Chevelle?

Jason

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Yes, 9562 + 9737...(as with the camaros, all yenkos were ordered this way).

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I Would put a want ad on Craigslist and try posting something on this chevelle site, it's a great site. http://chevelleforum.org/index.php

And this chevelle forum too
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/

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&quot;Chevy 454&quot; is correct and the car came with Ralley wheels of which I have two of the originals. It was a bench seat car as well with fawn/gold interior. It is not listed on the SYC list of Yenko cars but falls within 30 cars on the production line of two other 69 Yenko cars.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jay Sullivan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I Would put a want ad on Craigslist and try posting something on this chevelle site, it's a great site. http://chevelleforum.org/index.php

And this chevelle forum too
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/ </div></div>

An add on craigslist has been running for several weeks now with a couple leads that have not progressed. I am also a member of chevelles.com and placed the same information on this site also in the copo section. I have not tried the chevelle forum site and will register this morning. Thanks

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I somehow missed your other post, but...

I don't gamble, but I'd almost bet my paycheck this car was a COPO sold in Canada (those 2 late Yenkos are an anomoly), and was shipped either July 30 or July 31 (07E car)...a quick email to George might be worthwhile. And I'm betting I could get pretty darn close to nailing most of your trim tag...

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Ya, I'd take that bet too. Vin falls right beween one sold at Central Chev, and one at Beare Motors.
Peter

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Didn't the poster mention he had the original selling docs for the car? Not sure what additional value the CAN docs would be. Cool story though!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Didn't the poster mention he had the original selling docs for the car? Not sure what additional value the CAN docs would be. Cool story though! </div></div>

I don't have the original selling docs, only picture of car in late 70's from 2nd owner. Otherwise, no other documentation other than block and any documentation George Z. may be able to provide if it was one of the 17 cars sent to Canada.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chevy454</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I somehow missed your other post, but...

I don't gamble, but I'd almost bet my paycheck this car was a COPO sold in Canada (those 2 late Yenkos are an anomoly), and was shipped either July 30 or July 31 (07E car)...a quick email to George might be worthwhile. And I'm betting I could get pretty darn close to nailing most of your trim tag... </div></div>

I did email George tonight to see if by chance it was one of the 17 cars sent to Canada. It would be great if it was so the car has some sort of documentation since the build sheets and original purchase docs are probably long gone.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chevy454</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I somehow missed your other post, but...

I don't gamble, but I'd almost bet my paycheck this car was a COPO sold in Canada (those 2 late Yenkos are an anomoly), and was shipped either July 30 or July 31 (07E car)...a quick email to George might be worthwhile. And I'm betting I could get pretty darn close to nailing most of your trim tag... </div></div>

Looks like you hit the nail on the head regarding the build date based on what a couple others have said as well....&quot;VIN B412654 is a 07E build week body, very late in the build year considering the last reported VIN is B414385 for the Baltimore Assembly plant&quot;.

...and yes please take a shot at the trim tag and we'll see how close you are if in fact George has documentation.

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Our Beare Motors car was an 07E build, 13 after the one mentioned above. I've seen only one later COPO VIN.

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Received a text message from a guy and he is 99.99% sure he has the car. It was the last car he and his father restored in 2007 before his dad passed and there is no way he is ever selling the car. The car is restored as a restomod with candy red paint tan suede interior and a 396. It is at a second home out of state and he is traveling there next month for the summer and will verify the vin and let me know. Since there is know way he would ever consider selling the car I told him the history of the car and what it is...obviously he had no clue. I told him the history behind our family owning the car and tracking it over the last several months. He asked me how I new so much about the car and I told him we have the original motor my dad pulled out of the car in my garage. There was a long silent pause and he asked me how much I wanted for the motor. I told him the motor and a few other parts was the last sentimental connection to the car I have and those items are not for sale. So now if he truly has the car what the heck do I do? That motor and car need to be together.

I hope he is wrong and it's not the right car. At least then I can keep searching for the needle in the haystack with the hope of finding it. So for now I keep searching and wait impatiently for the call next month.

Tomorrow I hope to hear from George Z. and verify if the car was from Canada. With documentation and complete motor fully restored from air cleaner to pan and fan to transmission it should be an interesting story........

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If there's really no opportunity to buy the car, I would consider selling him the engine for a fair price. Sounds like his emotional connection with the car is more important to him than reuniting it with the original engine, so your leverage is limited. Of course, your call!

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If he leaves it as a restomod he may also have no interest in the engine though based on his pause it sounds like there might be some. Hope it turns out good for both parties.

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Get him to take a picture/tracing of the trim tag...

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Well, I got scammed. The guy was not legit and nothing he said was truthful. I really believe he was trying to get me to pay him upfront to tell me who he sold the car to...basically send him money. I spent 63 minutes on hold with CA DMV and 42 minutes with AZ DMV and the car has never been registered in either state as he suggested.

So to recap...I am smarter today than yesterday and trust but verify everything people tell you. The search continues.

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Well, I would look at this as good luck and fortune....as the search continues. Bad karma to the person who tried to pull a fast one on you [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

Dan

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I spoke to George Z. today and filled out the paperwork. I will know tomorrow if the car is a Canada car.

Stay tuned.

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Wait, Can you please explain what happened? Last I understood, he owned the car and would never sell it since he and his father restored it. Now he had(apparantly) sold it to someone else? I think something was lost in translation here.


Jason

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Received confirmation from George the car was not a Canadian car.

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Does anyone have any trim tag data from any of the Malcom-Conner Chevrolet Copo's? I would really like to see the date in reference to my vin number since mine is so late out of the Baltimore plant.

https://www.yenko.net/features/2004/September2004.htm

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Vic's car is quite a bit earlier vin # wise (404xxx), but the majority of the 07c-07e copos I have are in the same neighborhood in regards to body number...i would guess yours will be as well.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdplvx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Received confirmation from George the car was not a Canadian car. </div></div>
Did he look on the early 1970 import sheets????? The car(COPO) before it vin # wise was told the same thing. He had the original protect-o-plate and bill of sale for London Ont.(Central). For some reason ,it was late being shipped and showed up on a early 70 import sheet.
Peter

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO PETE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdplvx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Received confirmation from George the car was not a Canadian car. </div></div>
Did he look on the early 1970 import sheets????? The car(COPO) before it vin # wise was told the same thing. He had the original protect-o-plate and bill of sale for London Ont.(Central). For some reason ,it was late being shipped and showed up on a early 70 import sheet.
Peter </div></div>

Please see the response from George after I called him this morning and discussed your advice above....

I have just finished going through the last months of microfilm again and can re assure you that unfortunately your VIN is not listed, sorry. There are no 1969 vehicles in the 1970 microfilm, the 1969 microfilm does extend to year end, mainly because Camaro models were still 1969 models until the late intro on the 1970 in January 1970.


Thanks and regards:

George Zapora
General Motors of Canada
Vintage Vehicle Services
CA1-160-001
1908 Colonel Sam Drive
Oshawa, ON
Canada L1H 8P7

Phone: 905-440-7636
Fax: 905-440-7644

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Good info. Thanks for sharing.


<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">THAT</span></span> is what this board is all about!!!!!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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I still don't understand about the guy you said was trying to scam you. I asked for clarification but you never answered. Can you explain what happened?


Jason

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuperNovaSS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I still don't understand about the guy you said was trying to scam you. I asked for clarification but you never answered. Can you explain what happened?


Jason </div></div>

pm sent

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since you told him what he had, maybe he's trying to buy it back himself. The car will probably pop up at some time...just stash what ya got and wait it out [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NovaMob03</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since you told him what he had, maybe he's trying to buy it back himself. The car will probably pop up at some time...just stash what ya got and wait it out [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img] </div></div>
I have posted the vin on this site so as far as I am concerned everyone knows. If the car is found and the individual does not know what it is then great, otherwise it will be a chicken and egg game! Who is going to sell first me or him...most likely him since he has no documentation to prove the car is a copo car without the original MQ block with the vin on it. That is why I won't post a picture of the vin stamped on the block since the spacing of the characters and depth of the stamp cannot be reproduced and a car sold as original motor in the future.

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No PM here. Either way, I was only curious.


Jason

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Wonder who I sent the first one too.....another pm sent.

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No change in the search for the car. Placing adds on-line and calling people in the Boise area including restoration shops, salvage yards, etc. has produced nothing. I am traveling there in July to spend three days looking for the car with the last guy to see it.

http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/3052067046.html

I am not sure what else to do other than sit and wait....which is killing me!