Identify this '63 Ford V8?
 

Would this be a 260? What are the specs? Was there a marine version (de-tuned)?

thanks
Verne

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...vate/Motor.jpg

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Look's like a 302cu.in. and they had 260,289,and 221. Can't help any more than that. I had a 1963 221 cu.in. V8. *Paul

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Deffinatly a marine version... looks like its still in the boat. X2 on the 302... but I'm a GM guy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif[/img] .

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----This isnt one of them but Holman-Moody marinized a bunch of Ford motors. Everything from 260s all the way up to 427s. One of my other passions, DONZIs, got Holman-Moodys almost exclusively early in production, circa 1964/65.......Bill S

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Speaking of Donzis Bill, You might be interested in this....

http://www.classicglastron.com/lyndon-boat.htm

They couldn't keep up with him. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

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-----Verne,,,LBJs Glasstron has been for sale forever, it seems. Would be cool, but not my style. Besides, cant be owning anything that turns to the left all the time. I have a buddy that was on LBJs secret service detail, and he maintained that LBJ was as loony as they come......Bill S

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All 8.2 deck Windsors, from 221 through 302, look essentially identical externally. Something about that one looks odd, but maybe it's just the angle of the picture.

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Thanks for the clues guys. The seller of the boat says it's a Ford motor but has no other information. I have a friend who's fairly local who's trying to make arrangements to go look at it.
Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

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The motor has 68 Valve Covers and Oil Fill Cap so that would make it a 302 if original to the block. The block cast number is located on the passenger side rear close to the starter. If it is cast C8OE 6015 A or B it will be a 302. You will find the cast date just under the part number casting. If cast C4 C5 or C6 it will be a 289. You may not be able to see these numbers as they are behind the starter motor. If you pop a Valve Cover you will see a cast 289 or 302 and the date as well.

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Thanks for the info. I'll pass it on to my friend. I kinda thought that oil fill cap looked later then '63 or '64...
Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

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Upon further investigation, it seems it is actually in a '64 boat. The std motor was a 221cid 140hp Ford Interceptor. It has this number on the front <span style="text-decoration: underline">No. ER90R319043</span> but that may be unique to the marine version. Specs say 3.50 bore, 2.87 stroke.

Would '68 302 valve covers fit on this 221?? Sorry, but I know nothing about Fords....... (I never thought I'd have to apologize for that....) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...ontofmotor.jpg

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Ford small block W motors (221, 260, 289, 302 and 351W) take the same valve cover gaskets from 1962 thru 1987, so I'd bet the valve covers would fit also.

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The casting dates on the block and heads (under the valve covers) will be the answer. There will be one on the intake possibly but some marine manifolds did not. That timing cover is marine specific as well and also interchanges. Yes all of the Windsor family valve covers interchange. The 351 has its own intake and oil pan. There is also a stamped engine assembly date on the block to the right side of the timing cover. It is located on a pad just below the head. Many of these H/M boat engines were just garden variety engines. Some were solid lifter hipo 289's with Paxton blowers. I have bought a few Granatelli versions and the Paxton Gauges were worth more than the boat and the engine if not a solid lifter. Hipo. A pre 66 engine will also have a five bolt Bell as opposed to a six.

221 3.50x2.87 offered in 62
260 3.80x2.87 late 62-64
289 4.00x2.87 late 63-mid 68
302 4.00x3.00 mid 68-93

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Thanks again for the help guys!
Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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----Verne,,,Remember that all those marine exclusive parts have value if your friend is intending to use the motor as an automobile motor. When and if its appropriate I may be able to point you to a website or two that have marine for-sale sections......Bill S

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Bill, I am a member of a few marine sites since I am an owner of an old wood boat. My friend is a boat person but has too many projects of his own to be interested in the boat I'm looking at. I'm pretty content now that it's a 221 140hp original piece. I'm just concerned about parts availibilty for the Eaton outdrive.

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

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----Verne,,,You are right to be concerned. Parts for Eatons are very hard to find. Whole units show up on E-bay infrequently, but usually they have something wrong with them as well......Bill S